Unhealthy Gifts When Visiting for Tea

witchgirl26

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Right so you've obviously never dealt with a weight problem on either end of the spectrum then, have you? I was underweight. Yay some might say. Not so much. Even upping calorie intake did nothing to increase my weight on an ongoing basis. It was more complex than more calories equal more weight. So I can completely empathise with anyone who is obese & has to listen to people like you telling them to just eat less calories. Our bodies are complex. It is not a one size fits all fix when it comes to issues with the body. And yes it can be complex - weight can be affected by mental health issues (& I don't mean by them eating too much/not eating just an actual physical side effect), medications for other conditions, other conditions in general. Not all obesity is cause because someone had too many pizzas, burgers or chocolate. And it's not about people making money off it, it's about science.

Ah yes I will trust random person off the internet as opposed to a qualified professional who has studied psychology & nutrition with the appropriate qualifications in them. Food is not inherently bad. It just is. How much we eat of different types has an effect on it but it's not bad. That is just way too simplistic. Deep fat fried pizza may be a bad choice but by labelling the actual food itself as bad we cause a number of other issues with how we view food. If that's the only thing I can get & I'm hungry, it's good. I'm still putting something into my body to fuel it. It might not be ideal but it might be the best option at that point in time. Everything in moderation is not bad for you - in fact that is a more healthy approach than continuously restricting food. I'm not talking about losing weight or exercising. I'm talking about labelling food which is an inanimate object as good or bad.

They did exist years ago. And yes there is more now. But people also didn't live as long 50 years ago as they do now. We didn't have treatments for many conditions as we do now. Poverty was much more prevalent than it is now.

One of the skinniest people I've known in my life drank 2 litres of diet coke a day. I'm now a size 16 & do you know what my favourite drink is? Water. Always has been. And no one in Ireland says "soda".

bullpost

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Apologies - couldnt resist.

It is After Hours (Social/Fun) after all.

I guess the apology now makes me an untypical boardsie 😁

Rubberchikken

I don't see any food as 'bad'. In fact i think that attitude leads to food issues and maybe obesity.

Igor with the 'eat when hungry' when K can. Doesn't alwaya work out because working nights buggers things up a bit but I don't sweat it.

If invited to someone's home I definitely wouldn't go with my 'hands hanging'. I'm definitely not going to spend time wondering whether the house owner has a dislike of biscuits cakes etc.

If offered aomeill certainly eat it. Nothing nicer than a biccie or cake or apple tart with a cuppa.

Electric Gypsy

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I have not dealt with a weight issue, but you have to realise that you are in the minority. Wouldn't you have to line up a couple of hundred random people before you'd actually find someone who looked to be unhealthily underweight.

So deep fat fried pizza is a bad choice, as distinct from being bad for you? I'd say it is bad for you, unless you're expecting to starve to death. I'd imagine it contains quite a lot of heterocyclic amines and polycyclic aromatics hydrocarbons and they are bad for you! Junk food, whether in moderation or not, causes unnecessary stress at a molecular level that all adds up in the long run. A soda may contains the same sugar as a fruit, so you could argue that the key ingredient isn't technically bad for you, if consumed in the right way. But what's the worst that could happen with people simply thinking a soda is bad for you? 

The advice that you say those dieticians give ties in to people wanting to allow themselves a binge day once a week. A lot of people buy into this idea. I don't think that works, as sooner or later they'll fall off the wagon.

Ireland was a first world country 50 years ago. People mightn't have had the choice we have today, but no one was hungry.

Ezeoul

You need to look up Professor Donal O'Shea for some accurate information on obesity, which is now classed as a disease.

However, he is Irish. You seem to be using american terms.

witchgirl26

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How am I in the minority? I know plenty of people who are underweight & unhealthy. Skinny does not equal healthy as neither does being larger equal unhealthy automatically. You don't know from looking at a person what is going on inside them (not even talking mentally just literally the physical inside) to determine if they're healthy or not.

Anything that provides a level of nourishment (even with other not great parts to it) is good for your body. It might not be the best choice going but that's ok. And it completely depends on the pizza. Now I'd never actually eat a pizza that was deep fat fried as honestly that doesn't sound very nice but an frozen pizza into the oven is not the devil. In fact if you look at the nutritional information on them, it's fairly ok. On the traffic light system, I think it only has red in 1 area. Different types of cheese can have more red.

Stress at a molecular level? What are you talking about. Food does not cause stress to our body. Certain fats are preferably for our body because they provide more benefits, certain sugars too. Natural sugar is better for you than refined but doesn't mean you should binge out on sugar rich fruit. They'd be a "good" food wouldn't they? Would still be a lot of sugar though. See moderation again.

Having been under the care of a dietician for a medical problem they really don't want people in a binge cycle like that at all. It's about moderation. So you like something sweet at the end of dinner - ok lets look at something that provides that sweetness but maybe provides some other benefits too. And lets limit it to something small as opposed to something big. You want a chocolate, ok that's fine but have 1 and not the whole box. Eat it mindfully & enjoy it rather than just eating it. That's what it's about. "Treat day" mentality is not what any of the ones I've known has proposed as that is a bad habit. In fact there was a study done (I think it was in 2016) where one group was told they could have a biscuit every day with their cup of tea. The other control group was told they could eat as many biscuits as they liked on a Saturday (this was a properly controlled study so same biscuits etc). The results showed that those who ate 1 a day had, as expected, eaten 7 biscuits a week. Those who were allowed on a Saturday ate between 10 & 15. So the ones who had it in moderation ate less & still had a biscuit.

I'd recommend reading this in relation to poverty in Ireland in the 1970s & 1980s. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.esri.ie/system/files/media/file-uploads/2015-07/WP043.pdf

By the beginning of the 1980s 1 in every 5 households was unemployed. That only got worse as the recession went on. Tell me that unemployment doesn't lead to poverty?