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Means Test for dependant on Contributory pension

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  • #52
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,125 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    The money is from the sale of property, it’s not from their own saving.

    I guess I’m just wondering why they choose to go after old people just trying to live week to week rather than the many other fraudulent claims What's even more frustrating is if he never paid PRSI in the 48 years he did and got the non contributory pension they would qualify for an exemption on the proceeds from the house sale. Instead he worked from age 17 until his 65th birthday and now this happens



  • #53
    TooTired123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121451205#Comment_121451205

    Your grandparents are not living “week to week”.

    That’s the whole point.

    They have very considerable savings on deposit and they don’t need a top up to your grandfathers pension entitlement in order to “live week to week”.

    The laws of the land, including fraud, apply to everyone. I have no idea why you think your grandparents can be excluded. That’s just weird.

    If a family member advised that your grandparents should sell their home, bank the proceeds, make a will leaving the proceeds to that family member, and continue to claim the adult dependent increase without being discovered, then that family member is to blame for this. Not SW. And they will have to sort it out.



  • #54
    StormForce13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭StormForce13



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121451205#Comment_121451205


    They're not "going after" anyone, but just applying the conditions for the scheme impartially and without favour.

    If they were "going after" your grandparents then they'd be considering prosecuting them for not notifying SW that their circumstances had changed although they had signed an undertaking that they would.



  • #55
    TooTired123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458443#Comment_121458443

    They might still do that if there’s persistent efforts to avoid engaging with the department, and even continuing to try to defraud the department.



  • #56
    StormForce13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭StormForce13


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458625#Comment_121458625


    Perish the thought!

    I'm 100% confident that Gael23's grandparents are decent people who wouldn't dream of defrauding the Department. In fact I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they've already replied to Social Welfare, apologising for their oversight and promising to refund the overpayment without further delay.



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