Shane McGowan RIP

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438260#Comment_121438260

The only song he ever had banned was about the Guilford 4, fairytale has never been banned.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438336#Comment_121438336

Was it not the Birmingham 6 or maybe he had songs about both.

Say Your Number

Sad but not really surprising.

While everyone is glorifying the substance abuse aspect of his life, I wish he was more "boring" and we got more music out of him.

supernova5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438277#Comment_121438277

"If I should fall from grace with God" is surely up there as one of the greatest albums of all time

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438351#Comment_121438351

It was about both

There were six men in Birmingham

In Guildford there's four

That were picked up and tortured

And framed by the law

Nice story about it here

https://www.balls.ie/the-rewind/guildford-four-encounter-was-a-true-mark-of-shane-macgowans-greatness-580461

Masala

Gutted to hear that news..... have fond memories of seeing The Pogues in the Mean Fiddler in Willesden in the late 1980s/early 1990's.

Brilliant songwriter......

Gonna load up 'Red Roses for Me' album on Spotify on the way home as tribute to him.... where it all started for me!

RIP Shane.... and thanks for the music!

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438388#Comment_121438388

definitely , I always just had a loving for Rum Sodemy and The Lash though :)

rogber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438336#Comment_121438336

By "uncensored" the person is presumably talking about the removal of the word fag*ot in recent years.

bottlebrush

Saw the Pogues live in the SFX in 1985. Rip Shane.

I'll be playing my Rum Sodomy and the Lash tape tonight on a loop!

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438471#Comment_121438471

Which is a bit ridiculous as the word ‘ faggòt ‘ has 4/5 legitimate different dictionary definitions….

But I never heard much call to censor a lot of rap music that basically champions and advocates violence and murder and actually denigrates women and gay people but heaven help us if a trad punk band would use the word faggòt, once in a song…

Mc Gowan…

“The word was used by the character because it fitted with the way she would speak and with her character. She is not supposed to be a nice person, or even a wholesome person. She is a woman of a certain generation at a certain time in history and she is down on her luck and desperate. Her dialogue is as accurate as I could make it but she is not intended to offend! She is just supposed to be an authentic character and not all characters in songs and stories are angels or even decent and respectable, sometimes characters in songs and stories have to be evil or nasty to tell the story effectively. If people don't understand that I was trying to accurately portray the character as authentically as possible…”

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438471#Comment_121438471

You mean the word you can't say on tv/radio before 9pm anyway?

hynesie08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438552#Comment_121438552

How much uncensored rap do you hear on BBC radio at 1 in the afternoon?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438610#Comment_121438610

You hear quite a lot before the watershed.

There's a hill in Cork just outside Blarney named Fàggot Hill..maybe if standards are to be exercised that should be changed :) or maybe just the signs covered up… ‘ in the afternoon ‘ 😉

PTH2009

RIP

All the Irish greats are leaving this world, 3 big deaths in the music scene this year

Shane was a unique talent, he was a lot more intelligent than he looked. Fairytale of new york and 'Haunted' are amazing songs

Wish I got the chance to see him live, his tribute show in 2018 in the NCH sold out in seconds (the same day Dolores O Riordan passed away)

Those Olympia Christmas gigs were supposed to be out of this world

DaithiMa

The Pogues were one of my first favourite bands. This news has really hit hard today,

Rum, Sodomy and the Lash and If I Should Fall From Grace With God two of the best albums of all time for me. What a lyricist he was, The Old Main Drag and Sickbed Of Cuchulainn are pure poetry. Turkish Song of the Damned dark and brilliant. So many more quality tunes.

RIP Shane, one of a kind.

rogber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438552#Comment_121438552

I think it's ridiculous as well but look these are the times we live in, you can watch people being bombed to bits on the news every evening but a decades old song uses a word that might be deemed offensive and that's totally unacceptable

Frank Bullitt

This one seems a bit sadder to me, he was always on TV when I was a kid and Fairytale in New York is basically Christmas to me.

RIP.

Madd Finn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438071#Comment_121438071

If you believe that, you'll believe your namesake has a small penis.

screamer

I guess he lived life on his terms. His music will live on and ive no doubt we'll see a repeat of the late late special from a few years back. RIP.

kirk.

Fairytale was very carefully crafted

That surprised me but made sense later

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438638#Comment_121438638

Used to really look forward to those Christmas gigs, saw them all, great atmosphere.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438638#Comment_121438638

Saw his Brixton leg of one of those Christmas gigs. Was absolutely brilliant and on my birthday too which was nice.

SteM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438128#Comment_121438128

I'd add John Sheahan to that list tbh.

lbj666

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438154#Comment_121438154

From the maker of the show itself... It won over new audience to the Pogues including myself

Montage of Feck

"I'll see you then as the dawn birds sing

On a cold and misty morning by the Albert bridge"

RIP Shane

Sad day for Ireland and the Irish diaspora in the UK, he was a very high profile member of a community often forgotten or disparaged by people here.

rainagain

At the Vinyl weekend in Kilmainham six years ago, Shane was interviewed by Dave Robinson - Victoria Clarke talked more than Shane, but I'll never forget Shane's cackling, hissing laugh, just brilliant. A great lyricist.

gormdubhgorm

He won't see another one.

And I am not sure the world will see another like him.

purplepanda

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121437917#Comment_121437917

Shane never had any money up until Fairytale of New York was released, that didn't matter, people who knew him would buy him a drink anyway as he was a sound smart fella. My brother shared a flat in Kentish Town way back around the time the Nips split up. Anyway buying drinks is not proper debt, you shouldn't buy a drink for people you don't like.

He obviously had plenty of money later on, so wouldn't think anything of spending it either. I didn't have a drink with him since before he moved back to Ireland, last time down in Holloway, probably 15 years ago. He was in great form then, although obvious the abuse was taking it's toll. I'd rather remember him as a knowledgable, learned intelligent lad that had time for everyone.

Sad to see him pass, hope he has a great time in the Otherworld.

10000maniacs

Just watching back my Self Aid VHS of the Pogues.

They were great in 1986.

Probably an hour before they came on, Dave Heffernan asked him how he felt about creating jobs for unemployed young people.

Shane replied "I'm fuccking here aren't I?"

RIP.

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121438271#Comment_121438271

I'd say that it has been modernized by now, but there was a program made with Shane showing Mary around the home place some time ago,, and that's what I was going by. There's a bit on TV tonight showing a pub that Shane frequented a lot, Phillys Bar, It's the last pub on the road out of Nenagh on the way to the Silvermines. And of course, the regulars spoke highly of him. But these kinds of houses were still pretty common in the 50's, 60's and 70's. when I was growing up, and I remember them very well. There's a friend of mine who owns one, and it's the same as the one I've described, it's on the protected buildings list now.