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Gript-A source of misinformation. **Read OP before posting**

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    #332
    Augme
    Registered Users Posts: 5,873 ✭✭✭Augme


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444485#Comment_121444485


    Here's one example. It's a comment under the climate story above about Leo.


    Lovely. He is brown not because of his nationality but from licking Europe’s hole



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    #333
    jmcc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭jmcc


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444319#Comment_121444319

    "Animal Farm" anticipated the decline of the Soviet Union and how "revolutionaries" become no different to those they wished to replace. This quote is quite apt for a lot of the Irish media and its relationship with politicians:

    "The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

    The Irish Press was the DeValera shares scam. Shareholders invested but DeValera screwed them on their shares. The Irish Independent was IN&M before it was bought in a firesale by the Belgian company Mediahuis. The largest shareholder, having displaced Tony O'Reilly, until the firesale was Dinny O'Brien. He also owned a lot of Irish radio stations through his Communicorp company. Bauer, a German company bought them. There was a serious problem with cross-media ownership that went unaddressed for years. The Examiner was bought by the Irish Times.

    There has been a decline in trust in the legacy media. The Irish Times used to sell over 100K copies a day about ten years ago. Now, it probably sells less than 50K. It is merely a provincial viewspaper with delusions of grandeur. The sales of the Indo and Sindo have also declined. Many of the problems that affect the Irish media are due in no small part to the decisions in the 1990s to switch from news reporting to commentary because news reporting required skill and was expensive whereas comment was cheap.

    Over the years, the legacy media came to think that it is their place, with the new puritans preaching from their pulpits, to dictate what people should think. The falling sales and declining credibility says otherwise. The majority of Irish people do not buy a daily newspaper.

    Publications like Gript are catering for a niche market for which the Irish legacy media does not. This kind of market fragmentation has been been evident outside of Ireland for years. Ireland's media market is a small one. But that fragmentation is inevitable. The ease with which publications can be set up on the Web has put the legacy media at a severe disadvantage when trying to deal with smaller and more nimble competition and it seems like much of the legacy media is on a slide to oblivion greased by their dependence on print.

    Regards...jmcc

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    #334
    jmcc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭jmcc


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444413#Comment_121444413

    Wrong! Most of Gript's content is tailored to appeal to its readers and prospective readers. It is far more tailored than other publications but the reason may not be immediately obvious to the Dunning-Kruger types who think that they know about Journalism.

    Regards...jmcc



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    #335
    applehunter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭applehunter


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444564#Comment_121444564

    In those bad old days like today… you would get a temporary ban from commenting for being an edge lord.

    Thankfully our great government are going to bring in laws that will allow the police enter this person’s abode, seize his PC and demand all passwords and ultimately have him get a custodial sentence.

    I think people will take that on the chin.



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    #336
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121441764#Comment_121441764

    Yeah. Another reason that he is a scumbag.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #337
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121442525#Comment_121442525

    Well Iona institute got funded by Russian Oligarchs

    Likely that a lot of Gript funding comes from US

    Their board is still made up of a lot of the Youth Defence families. I think Niamh Ui Bhriain was the Chair and Niamhs Sister Ide O'Hara is on the board. Interesting reading all about Niamh and Ides Mother here

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2056721209/una-bean-mhic-mhathuna-foe-of-modern-ireland


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #338
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443728#Comment_121443728

    Not strange; their "journalism" is deliberately designed to whip up hatred against certain groups.

    The editor has openly allied himself to a lot of the extremist far right in this country.

    The moment that awful awful tragedy in Parnell Street happened Gript sent out "journalists" to deliberately whip up fear and anxieties.

    What they publish isn't "journalism" - its pretty much about 50 different ways to hate black people, refugees, Muslims, immigrants, trans people, feminists.

    Its extremist ultra conservative bile designed to whip up fear, anxiety and bigotry.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #339
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443973#Comment_121443973

    Exactly - their remit is about whipping up anti immigrant hatred

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #340
    paddyisreal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444518#Comment_121444518

    Yes I agree a bit over the top but the Groot is reporting a fact that an Irish law is being discussed in a committee in the states . I wonder is the independent, times etc reporting this or is it hidden with a reference in the letters page.



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    #341
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444425#Comment_121444425

    Have you been living in a cave for the last 5 years? There has been huge amounts of far right threats, intimidation and violence.

    Threatening to stamp on the Presidents head, threatening to kill the Taoiseach, threatening to burn out refugees in finglas, threatening to burn down hotels in Athy and Wicklow. Burning down hotels in Donegal, kildare, Leitrim. Burning out tents where refugees lived in Dublin

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #342
    paddyisreal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444658#Comment_121444658

    Bullshit again, can you show us these "hate" articles against black people, refugees etc ? No one allowed read media that doesn't support your view on society ?



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    #343
    riddles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭riddles


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444584#Comment_121444584

    The same can be argued about the Irish Times.



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    #344
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,965 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444537#Comment_121444537

    So she didn't say that he was guilty of a hate crime, thanks for confirming.



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    #345
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,965 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444476#Comment_121444476

    Appearing in a Grift podcast is the opposite of relatable.



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    #346
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,965 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444584#Comment_121444584

    You're both right. Most of Gript's content is tailored to appeal to its readers and prospective readers, both of which are focused on the far right.



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    #347
    gotaf
    Registered Users Posts: 259 ✭✭gotaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444670#Comment_121444670

    But gript are reporting it as if it it is not over the top. Just so they can get the headline:

    US COMMITTEE HEARS IRISH HATE SPEECH BILL AMONG THE WORLD’S “MOST DRACONIAN”

    Rather than Rupa Subramanya, a Canada-based journalist says some mad stuff.

    It's so transparent what that site is doing.



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    #348
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444751#Comment_121444751

    Hard right columnist says something Irelands laws. OK. 😑

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #349
    Mullaghteelin
    Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444751#Comment_121444751

    Even the "trusted" media can be shockingly disingenuous and will spin stories for all sorts of reasons every day of the week. They are ruthless.

    We trust our establishment too much in this country. It echoes our historical tendancy to bow down to authority figures like the priest, the doctor, the guard. We really don't like kick up a fuss in front of the neighbours, so we just accept what they tell us. We deserve what's coming.



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    #350
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444695#Comment_121444695

    I’ll treat that as your typically ungracious admission that you’re wrong and a stubborn inability to apologise.

    Never change Andy. You’re a treasure.



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    #351
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444708#Comment_121444708

    Indeed. Relatability is a concept that’s very thin on the ground, isn’t it?



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    #352
    Luxembourgo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444708#Comment_121444708

    That's your opinion, different people relate to different things. Is that hard to understand?



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    #353
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users Posts: 7,208 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Not a good time for John McGuirk at the moment given he was also recently found out for being an Israeli stooge given the Israeli Government paid for him to tour the country.

    Makes a mockery of him being “independent” and his mantra of not trusting or accepting official lines on things… unless it’s the Israeli Government who pay, then you just accept everything they say… which is exactly what John does.



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    #354
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,965 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444854#Comment_121444854

    Perhaps you should direct your post to the person who claimed she was relatable.



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    #355
    One eyed Jack
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444695#Comment_121444695


    Hamachi made the point that she had implied he was guilty of a hate crime, which she did, by claiming his words were incitement to hatred, and that’s why the media didn’t publish them. It’s not clear that she imagined any publication would be liable for incitement to hatred and that’s why they made an editorial decision not to publish them, but any media outlet would have been unlikely to be found liable as sections 2, 3 and 4 of the Act do not apply in circumstances outlined in section 5b.

    It’s why I provided you with the video itself and a link to the Incitement to Hatred Act, because Kitty was familiar enough with the Act to make the claim she did, and offer that as a possible explanation as to why the media omitted that part of the victim impact statement by claiming that he was entitled to his views and the media has a responsibility to not report views that are incitement to hatred, and he is now a hero to the far right.

    Hamach isn’t at fault here, nor is Ryan Casey. It was Kitty who offered a rather patronising narrative which smelled awfully like BS tbh, fuelled by her own views.



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    #356
    Hoop66
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    Gript is for racists, wankers and inadequates.



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    #357
    Loafing Oaf
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121444678#Comment_121444678

    It's dog-whistle stuff, they're not saying 'nonwhite people are subhuman' or anything that would likely fall foul of hate speech laws.


    https://gript.ie/former-mayor-of-longford-was-congratulated-by-movement-linked-to-violent-black-axe-criminal-gang/




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    #358
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 23,754 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121445014#Comment_121445014


    By Jesus that is one quare salty article 😂

    Ironic that the author would invoke Matthew 7:5 while writing for Gript 🤔



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    #359
    RobbieV
    Registered Users Posts: 362 ✭✭RobbieV


    Do we accept that it is within the media mandate to decide what facts should or shouldn't be reported or is their role to report all of the facts ?


    The selective reporting on the statement from Ryan Casey is a story in itself.

    And the admission from that IT "journalist" / activist speaks volumes



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    #360
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,099 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121443706#Comment_121443706
    https://gript.ie/an-post-offering-menopause-advice-to-male-staff-members/


    Hard hitting stuff alright.



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    #361
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,161 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    applehunter threadbanned



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