150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121941398#Comment_121941398

Lol, do you really think Fidel Castro was just sitting around, and a Cuban peasant decided to take a casual shot of him eating an ice cream? Come on now...

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121941726#Comment_121941726

This mockery that Tubridy gets for allegedly always pointing in photos is tiresome. Look, here's Westlife's Shane Filan doing the pointing, while none other than pop impresario Louis Walsh poses with the ice cream. And nobody mocks them.

Brian Scan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121941910#Comment_121941910

Yeah, no one has ever mocked Louis Walsh or Westlife.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121941398#Comment_121941398

More importantly, they are all famous people. Tubridy isn't. He has been off Irish TV for just under a year now and off Irish national broadcasters (apart from the new coverage of the Oireachtas appearances) since about July last year. The value of his Irish brand has diminished. The fact that his former slot gained listeners under different presenters is a major problem when it comes to getting him back on an Irish national broadcaster. Maybe RTE, in the past, could accept such losses but commercial radio is very different.

Tubridy isn't famous like those people in the ice cream photos. He isn't famous for being famous. He was famous in Ireland because of RTE marketing and being on RTE TV and radio. Take that marketing powerhouse away and a lot of the value he would bring to a broadcaster disappears too. The Virgin Radio exile might have initially been for a year but it seems to be getting overtaken by reality. The next few RAJARs and JNLRs will be critical.

Regards...jmcc

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121941875#Comment_121941875

Tubs plots coup after Leo's departure, saying, "Toyman is back, ice creames all round... you know I was never a cigar man but enough about me a drug use... did you see the tricolour ... do you think I will get a state funeral... Kate and Charlie in hospital ... sure isn't it a mad world... oh Roisin from galway is looking for me to give back some money... don't know what that caller is talking about ... and aren't Irish names funny ... I was just talking to Chris Evans before the show... well here from 1 to 3 .... Fidel has nothing on me ... you ain't seein' nothing yet ... oh I read this book while eating jelly babies".

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942166#Comment_121942166

Yes, let's pretend the presenter of the Late Late Show - an absolute institution of Irish broadcasting - from 2009 to 2023 isn't famous in Ireland. Let's pretend the presenter of multiple national radio shows on both 2FM and Radio One from 2004 onwards isn't famous. Lets pretend the subject of this 84 page, 2497 post, thread you regularly post on isn't famous.

Let's pretend all that.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121941910#Comment_121941910

He told them to do it,

Look lads I can always be eating ice creams and pointing next you'll have me both eating an ice cream and pointing

Best I can do and that comes from the point thread!

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942263#Comment_121942263

Who's that, RoTelly? I've never heard of or encountered that person in any media before; be it TV, radio, online or print. They're a complete unknown to me and all my compatriots. I'm bewildered as to why you would post a photograph of them on this thread, that's discussing someone called Ryan Tubridy, who I also have never, ever, heard of.

Spoiler Warning

Am I doing it right, J?

leath_dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121940583#Comment_121940583

I don't think Tubs had a pile of friends in RTE. I always got the impression he'd be your friend if it was advantageous to him, otherwise "meh"

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942252#Comment_121942252

The point is simple: take away the organisation and the shows that promoted him in Ireland and what's left? Tubridy's value to an Irish national broadcaster thinking of hiring him was primarily based on his former prominence as a TV presenter and a radio presenter on a national broadcaster.

The first cut to his value was when he stood down from the LLS. There was no replacement TV show and he was effectively off Irish TV.

The second cut to his value was when RTE took him off air and he then proceeded to muck up a lifeline deal to bring him back on RTE radio.

He spent approximately six months off air until he resurfaced on a UK radio station that syndicated his programme to Irish local radio stations. Not Irish national broadcasters. Just local radio stations.

The third cut to his value was when Oliver Callan took over his former slot on RTE for 150K. Leaving aside the symbolic nature of that number, it is a starting point for any salary negotiation for Tubridy if any Irish broadcaster wants to hire him. This is a far cry from when Tubridy was RTE's highest earner.

Fame is fickle. Those who seek it need to be in the public eye and need the public's attention. Without it, people forget. And there are always others eager to take the place of the formerly famous. In Irish terms, Tubridy is on a UK radio station and no longer part of the pantheon of famous Irish national broadcasters. The longer he stays there, the more people in Ireland forget about him.

Do you agree that, unlike the genuinely famous people in your ice cream photos, we should consider his fame to be fading? After all, when is the last time you saw him on Irish TV?

Without his presence on a national TV and radio broadcaster like RTE and without the marketing power of a large organisation like RTE, is his value to an Irish broadcaster less than it was when he was RTE's highest earner? When it comes to Tubridy being famous in Ireland, RTE giveth and RTE taketh away.

Regards...jmcc

TheBMG

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942341#Comment_121942341

You would be wrong. He was widely considered to be ‘one of the good guys’. Staff were upset when they heard he wouldn’t be returning.

Hyperbollix

Louis Walsh cobbled together two hugely successful boybands from a collection of Irish young fellas. Some could sing, some couldn't. All looked good and had an appeal. He then teamed them up with brilliant songwriters who are experts at churning out pop hits. He made a packet. So did the guys in the bands and some have remained in the industry, like Ronan Keating, and still have a very comfortable living.

It's a huge insult to Louis Walsh, Ronan Keating, Shane Filan etc to equate them with Tubridy. Yes they are all famous in Ireland, but all of them bar Tubridy got to where they are on merit. Even Keith Duffy could sit on a stool seductively and provide backing vocals for the lead, ie the basic set of skills required for being in a boyband. Tubridy never managed to master the basic set of skills for TV or radio broadcasting. And still hasnt.

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942390#Comment_121942390

Look, that's like saying of Fidel Castro "take away the Communist Party of Cuba and the fact that he led the Cuban Revolution and was leader of Cuba for 49 years, and what do you have left? Nothing! You don't see him on TV now! He's a freakin' nobody!"

There's no need to try so hard! It's ok to be critical of Tubridy without entering this... this realm of the fantastic or whatever your trying to construct. Let's stick to the facts.

There's many things to be critical of Tubridy of. But not being famous, or being unfamous, is not two of them.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942532#Comment_121942532

Is "unfamous" a word? Perhaps you'd agree that Tubridy is formerly famous. All those people in your ice cream photos are famous and remain so. Without the his presence on RTE TV and radio and without RTE's marketing machine to promote him, he's rapidly approaching a situation where the only thing for whcih people in Ireland will remember him will be the Tubridy Pay Scandal. This is going to be a major consideration for any Irish national broadcaster considering hiring him and a potential deal breaker for a return to RTE.

Regards...jmcc

mountain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942252#Comment_121942252

Fair point about him being very well known,

however I do think that the longer he is gone from RTE, he will drift from people’s interest, as shown here on the reducing about of posts.

in the 15 mins or so I listened for today, he read out a message from someone in Westmeath which I thought was odd

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942695#Comment_121942695

in the 15 mins or so I listened for today, he read out a message from someone in Westmeath which I thought was odd

I don’t actually know anyone from Westmeath, but as far as I know they’re as capable of writing messages as anyone else. 🤷🏻

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942736#Comment_121942736

Currently living in Westmeath and know a few, I do believe that they can write, however I wonder if they are listening to Tubs!

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942592#Comment_121942592

Is "unfamous" a word?

Yes, it is.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/unfamous#

Being “famous” is the state of being known about by many people. It’s ludicrous - ludicrous - to claim that Tubridy is not a household name in Ireland. And getting more and more well known in the UK too, with his national radio show, I might add.

Your credibility is on the line here.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942820#Comment_121942820

Is it correct to say that Tubridy is now mainly known for the Tubridy Payments Scandal? Without him having a TV show on an Irish national broadcaster or a radio show on an Irish national radio broadcaster, isn't his fame diminishing? So what if he has a mid-morning show on a small UK radio station which is syndicated to a few Irish local radio stations, the reality is that he is no longer has a presence on either Irish national TV or Irish national radio.

RTE giveth and RTE taketh away. And it certainly did with Tubridy. Having a mid-morning show on a UK station might as well have him broadcasting from the dark side of the Moon for most of the listeners to his former radio slot on RTE. Not only have they failed to follow Tubridy, the numbers listening to the slot on RTE have also increased. This makes the prospect of a triumphal return to RTE at the same pre-scandal salary less likely. Perhaps he will make a success of things in the UK. Let's see what the RAJARs say.

Regards...jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121941910#Comment_121941910

Well we might just continue to point out the pointing, if it’s all right with you, so to speak 👉👈

RoTelly

How did we get to Tubs being compared to despots and RTÉ like a mediocre karaoke singers!

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942940#Comment_121942940

The intriguing and completely bonkers case of the ice cream conundrum? :)

Regards...jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942532#Comment_121942532

Infamous would the the word you’re looking for, I guess.

Infamy Infamy! they all have it in fo’ me!

Chocolatier

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121940583#Comment_121940583

Emma O'Kelly rocks! One of the few in RTE whose Daddy doesn't work there as well.

leath_dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942418#Comment_121942418

Not in my experience. I know a few RTE technical and behind the scenes staff and many would consider Tubs to be an awful ballbag. In contrast another person centre stage in the payments scandal, Marty Morrissey, would be well liked.

Morrissey knows how lucky he is, doesn't take himself too seriously and wouldn't have an ounce of arrogance.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942976#Comment_121942976

Ironically, Kenneth Williams was a well known actor, diarist and chatshow guest. Tubridy, not so much. :)

Regards...jmcc

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121943123#Comment_121943123

A gentleman and national treasure if ever there was one. Who courts no criticism when he poses with an ice cream or points.

There’s a double standard at play here.

jmcc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121943180#Comment_121943180

There are many things for which Marty Morrissey can be criticised. Being Ryan Tubridy is not one of them. :)

People seem to like Marty Morrissey and he seems quite down to Earth. Also knows about GAA stuff.

Regards...jmcc

TheBMG

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121943123#Comment_121943123

Now I know you’re making it up.

The J Stands for Jay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942252#Comment_121942252

When was he on 2fm?