Enersion wireless smart timer / booster

worded

Hi,

Requirement: Emersion water controlled by an AP on wireless. Dont want a digital manually set one.

Mostly will set a timer to heat water for morning shower.

Ocasionally will want to boost immersion.

Anyone got recomendation?

ongarite

This one should do fine

https://amzn.eu/d/isGING6

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121603827#Comment_121603827

Thanks. Have you used/installed one of these before?

worded

Having a look at these ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C1Z6FVWC/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0C1Z6FVWC&pd_rd_w=WsRva&content-id=amzn1.sym.0f0ab399-5c6b-44d4-9cc7-077c8b5dcba9&pf_rd_p=0f0ab399-5c6b-44d4-9cc7-077c8b5dcba9&pf_rd_r=SAF5RQVHREXFY2RRGRBF&pd_rd_wg=DATky&pd_rd_r=ca50e5da-23f2-44eb-886b-476ca2d97dd1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Immersion-Heater-Switch-Control-Assistant/dp/B0CN6BLB92/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1664IYBIZER60&keywords=immersion%2Bheater%2Btimer%2Bswitch&qid=1705002597&sprefix=emersion%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-9&th=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LANBON-L8-HB-Heater-Switch-Controller/dp/B0CDGQRKMR/ref=sr_1_43?crid=1664IYBIZER60&keywords=immersion%2Bheater%2Btimer%2Bswitch&qid=1705002597&sprefix=emersion%2Caps%2C112&sr=8-43&th=1

ongarite

I have installed one very like your first link.

They are all the same hardware & run same smartphone app just with different covers on them.

I recommend the one I linked to as it doesn't require deeper non-standard back box. Has more & better reviews where as all your links are new, no review units.

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121604220#Comment_121604220

Thanks, I see your logic there ....

Im a good elec DIYer but req gudiance on higher voltage items :-)

The existing set up i did is digital timer to Bath & Sink switch and on/off switch - see pics pls

The Digital switch above has 4 main ports Live in/Out and Neutral in/out with earth. Easy to understand.

With the one you are suggesting it has 3 ports

Earths - So I can connect the earths together in the on/off switch not this.

L in and out in this - OK thats clear

N - in the absence of N in and N out (Like on my my digatal switch above) do I connect BOTH these N in and N out into port *1 marked above?

Thanks

worded

The grey info sticker on the back of the timer says:

N - neutral in/out.

That's what I expected

rustynutz

I'm interested in one of these also, just wondering how you deal with the sink/bath switch when installing the amazon one linked in the second post? Does the smart switch replace the existing bath/sink on/off switch, or is it mounted alongside it?

Lewis_Benson

Sorry to be the annoying grammar/ spelling nazi.

But its Immersion, not emersion.

The element is immersed in the water in the tank, hence the name.

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121606573#Comment_121606573

Just wondering what you meant by you saying you have a digital timer to bath/sink switch and a digital timer to on/off switch? Tks

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121613681#Comment_121613681

A digital (or manual) timer to me = non smart non internet timer.

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610408#Comment_121610408

Hi, I'm not an electrician so here is my amateur advise

Along side it.

You need a bath / sink switch

Any booster or switch I've used over the years has been in combination with a bath/sink switch

worded

I bought the switch and wired it up.

Ap OK for someone semi technical to setup.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.HBNSmart.smart

Still working out the ap.

Scheduling easy

Timer ON any day of the week - OK

Timer OFF any day if the week - OK

You can have multiple schedules. See my example below. On at 6 and off at 7 m-f

BUT there is no easy 30/60/120 boost on the switch itself just an On/off on the front.

Danger that if one of the kids hits that on button it will stay on until the next time the switch is due to go off on your schedule .... Or Hey google power on immersion. Again you have to remember to hey Google power off.

This is the nightmare with immersions. Accidentally leaving it on .....

You can set a ap alert to tell you someone has powered on quite easily.

So say for example someone hits the manual ON button at 9am on the front of switch and forgets to hit it again to OFF. In my setup the elec will be on to the next scheduled off to 7am

Will see if there is a workaround but that's a danger I can see with this switch.

One idea is to set up a few off times 7 days a week but hopefully there is a better way. Ideally there is a way to set the max time to say 2 hours on.

The ap is not immersion specific and can control lights and a vast host of other devices ... If it was an immersion specific ap this would have been though of.

No one wants a bill for wasted elec

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121620357#Comment_121620357

Right. So you aren't controlling the bath versus sink option electronically so?

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121620556#Comment_121620556

Yes you are correct. The sink/bath control is not important to me. But if I want sink I can flip the switch manually

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121620634#Comment_121620634

Was thinking that. Thanks!

wandererz

Not sure about Google, but with Alexa I can ask it to turn on the immersion for 30mins as an example.

lenoude

If you select Left Time on the bottom of the app, I think you can enter in how long you wish for it to remain on before it turns off. Not sure if it only applies to app use or if it would apply also when physically pressing the button.

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121621773#Comment_121621773

Hi, With Google Next I can ask to rurn on. Thie issue is

I cant say to Boost for 30 mins.

I cant say power off in x mins

I cant set a count down to power off in the ap, (shame) but can set a delay (pointless)

The huge issue with Immersions is leaving it on. Moved into a place once years ago and the people left it on for about 2 months! Massive bill.

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121622840#Comment_121622840

Hi, Are you using HBN Smart ?

I dont see any option like you say. The "Timer" is to schedule on/off times. "Countdown" is a delay to power on.

lenoude

No, just used similar generic apps for smart plugs etc. From looking there on the screenshot yours might be the countdown option. I'd try that. Just unsure if it applies to the manual pushing of the button or just when using the app

lenoude

The countdown should work in a way to turn off I would have thought.

If no luck, try setting it up with the Smart life app instead. Similar enough app and that definitely had a setting where it would turn off after a period of time

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121624660#Comment_121624660

Countdown = a delay to when the device is powered on NOT a countdown to it powering off

I will try another generic AP. Im using the one the manufacturer suggested.

worded

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121624664#Comment_121624664

I will have a look at the Smart Life Ap