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The accelerating fall in Sinn Féin support

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    The government repeatedly at every budget warns about this windfall will end and hence not spending like Sinn Fein are planning to do

    As for your second point



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Enricoh said that Government spending last year was a third higher than it had been before the pandemic and more than €8bn up on just the previous year……so you just saying our government "not spending like Sinn Fein are planning to do" just says it all about SF.

    Re your graph, we all know GDP is based on leprechaun economics in this country: GNP is more accurate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,584 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    That is incredibly lazy, even an AI bot would bring up more relevant and recent articles.

    What are your thoughts on the remainder of my comments?

    Post edited by kippy on


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Ionraice


    I agree that it's not unheard of for newly elected councillors to run for the Dáil.

    The question for Sinn Fein is, who do they replace the newly elected Councillors with?

    I think it's fair to say that smaller/newly successful parties don't have the same number of available, credible, candidates that have a public profile. FF and FG, in particular, have had literally decades of large party memberships, compared to the traditionally less successful parties. It stands to reason then that they don't have as many members with a high public profile ready to step into the shoes of any councillor who is elected to the Dáil.

    I've actually never heard of at least half of the candidates for the Council elections - and just barely heard of a few more - and I keep a fairly sharp eye on politics.

    I don't know SF strategy will be, but it is likely to be a problem for them - and probably some of the other smaller parties, too, imo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Grey123


    I’m sure the quality will be lower but I also suspect they will find someone. SF have a few very poor TDs who were probably just running last time to make up the numbers.

    A poor quality councillor can be well hidden.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Ionraice


    You may well be right.

    If that does prove to be the case, I'll freely admit to being terrified - and that's coming from someone who literally cannot wait to see the back of the current coalition.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭riddles


    Tech Companies who were filling jobs in Ireland, UK or the US with transfers from low cost countries realised with WFH “does it really make sense to have these in mid or high cost locations?”

    The hiring strategies have now changed at least in the company I am in majority of positions can only be replaced in low cost countries.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    Go look at who is queuing for new houses that come on sale. All those Indians arent queuing for house for remote work in India. I work with a few of them. They are out looking to buy houses every time a new development comes on the market. These are people who are net contributors to our economy who cant find rentals or purchases.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    No. 99% of people understand exactly the many reasons which have combined to create a housing shortage. Clearly you are one of the 1%



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,666 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I don't think their (Soc_Alt) comments are based on anything other than trying to have an excuse ready if/when SF tank the golden goose that has been foreign direct investment for Ireland.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Further deflection, why are so coy about articulating an argument?



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,627 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    there’s a video that aul Gerry did lately - my god the man looked physically and mentally shook - very low energy and borderline depressed.

    Are SF realising now that looking after the world while putting paddy to the back of the queue is coming back to hurt them??



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Wait till every town and village has a little Gaza district right next to little Lagos and risky Albania ghettos



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭MFPM




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    SF putting paddy at the back of the queue? Thats a mean feat for a party not in government



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,627 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Another major factor for the demise of SF is the media coverage of that total oddball O Brin - the housing spokesman who got his specs in a packet of cornflakes.

    SF don’t seem to realise how badly he comes across.

    You would cross the street to avoid him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 45,476 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    I think people people thinking and hoping for the demise of SF will be in for a shock come GE time.

    They'll probably be in the next government and likely as the senior party in it.

    If we are taking demise then it's FF and FG. Their fall from grace has been so stark over the past few decades that now they probably can't do without each other.

    40 years ago FF and FG received 85% first preference votes between them.

    The most recent general election they received 43% first preference votes between them.

    Demise indeed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭MFPM


    A 'major factor' in the alleged 'demise' of SF is Eoin O'Broin...Where to people get this nonsense from, I assume if people are posting here they have some interest in politics that allows them to develop some intelligent and objective analysis but reading comments here is like being in a children's playground.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54,323 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I always felt he was probably one of the best SF TDs



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Eoin O'Broin is definitely one of SF's brightest stars, however when I see him on Tv debates if the caption came up that he was from the "Soc. Dems" or "PBP" parties it wouldn't seem odd… he and Paul Murphy would be friends.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,435 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Eoin O'Brion should have a good handle on housing, as he has studied it and written a book on the subject. But it's quite obvious that SF have decided to limit his exposure, so that must be the party's decision.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭crusd


    Its 60% of GNP.

    The reality is the gap between GNP and GDP is now significantly lower than it was a few years back so the old leprechaun economics carnad is largely obsolete. Multinationals here also pay 37billion euro in salaries. The benefit to the economy is real. The tax take may be a windfall, but this windfall needs to be invested now rather than squirrelled away. This is the way to protect against the windfall going away in the future through expanding the productive capacity of the country through provision of key infrastructure including housing and transport.



  • Registered Users Posts: 54,323 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Now maybe i'm missing something but how are they limiting his exposure, I seem to always see him on likes of the Tonight Show and those kind of shows across RTE and Virgin



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭MFPM


    That's simply not true though, he's regularly on TV and radio and there's been no discernible change in his exposure.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    He’s a very smug man with silly glasses who speaks very slowly and rolls his vowels so the greatest unwashed can understand his profound message. I’d imagine the Belfast Boys have decided to limit his exposure as they know he’s a bit of a sickener.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Cant see these statements currying any favour with their recently disillusioned voters



  • Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭Oxo Moran


    If they get more seats they'll have done better.

    Polls often give a good insight to the public mood, but elections are the final word.

    If they don't do as well as 35% in the polls may have suggested feel free to laugh and point at them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭standardg60


    He was on NT the other day expanding on SFs affordable housing policy, houses will be built on state land therefore cutting out land costs so 'ordinary workers' won't pay any more than 300k for a house.

    Then, incredibly, when the same homeowner came to sell, they would have to sell only to another affordable housing qualifier for the same affordable price. So no point adding an extension or converting the attic to your own house, cos you will be forced to gain absolutely no equity whatsoever.

    Straight out of the property is theft rulebook.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    They both attended that well known left wing establishment, Blackrock College.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,555 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    McDonald seems to be all over the place lately, I'd say they are getting it in the neck while out canvassing and it can't be brushed aside as a few far right lads shouting the odds over on twitter anymore.

    Immigration is the one topic they want to go away so they can focus on something like housing but unfortunately for the shinners its not going anywhere.



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