Fed up with Anti vape agenda

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121763062#Comment_121763062

A friend told me recently that her 17 year old son is on nicotine gum now to get him off the nicotine vapes.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121763070#Comment_121763070

I used to believe the aspartame stuff as well and how it was the devil.

Not true.

It's in the 'possible causes' category and you'd need to consume so much of the stuff (9-14 cans a day) that you'd have other ailments before needing to worry about cancer.

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121772921#Comment_121772921

Seems a bit excessive. Nicotine is no worse for you than caffeine. Is she also weaning him off tea, coffee, coca-cola, Monster, Red Bull too??

spaceHopper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121772921#Comment_121772921

For a tenner they can get the equivalent 2 packs of cigarettes, they won't stink of smoke and it's easy to hide. They even look like pens or USB drives. Colours and flavours, packaging. It's all aimed at teens especially girls.

We're missing an opportunity to stop a generation from starting vaping or smoking.

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121774880#Comment_121774880

For a tenner they could also get about 10 litres of Coke or 2/3 jars of coffee.

MilkyToast

Anecdotally, artificial sweeteners (not sure which ones in particular since they're usually blended) gave me a ton of health issues for over a decade (mostly skin-related) that all went away as soon as I stopped consuming them. I'm sure that's pretty rare, though, and I would have been consuming quite a lot between coffee, tea, 'zero' drinks and using them as subs in baking.

Non-anecdotally, nicotine seems to have some neuroprotective effects. Which might actually be a good thing considering plummeting birth rates in the developed world. There'll be nobody to look after all the dementia and Parkinson's patients if we don't hurry up with the AI robots. 🤖

Pouches and gum are probably better than vaping though, and it probably makes sense not to become addicted to anything you can't afford to pay for.

It is already illegal to sell nicotine-containing products to people under 18 and has been since December. The penalty is up to €4k or a stint in prison. I would suggest enforcing that law with a few widely publicised sting operations would see retailers become more enthusiastic about asking for ID.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121774913#Comment_121774913

But they don't.

They are, however, buying vapes, in very large numbers.

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121776442#Comment_121776442

You rarely see a kid nowadays without a bottle of Coke, red bull or Prime. All muck. No different to a vape. And they’ll get 1 vape on a tenner.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336013/fed-up-with-anti-vape-agenda

AntiVa....

Total rubbish. I hate vaping. I think it's ignorant as it is seen as more socially acceptable as smoking. Walking through huge clouds if nauseating saccharine-mist. Is it socially acceptable to spit in people's faces? Cough in people's faces? They target kids with their flavours and branding.

And I have never smoked or owned a cigarette company. I have my own opinions, not informed by "Big tobacco" but based upon my own experience as I'm sure everyone else has. Unless we are ALL in BT's pockets.

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121776542#Comment_121776542

You rarely see a kid without a bottle of coke, red bull or prime? Where do you live?

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121776714#Comment_121776714

Dublin. Prime was selling and being bought at €25 a bottle before Xmas when there were shortages.