How realistic is it to find a studio apartment for around 1000 Euros per month?

tinytobe

Just wondering, how realistic is it to find a studio apartment for around 1000 Euros or maybe 1300 per month in Dublin?

I mean a self contained unit, with at least a small kitchen, a washing machine and a bathroom with at least a shower and a toilet? And that in a halfway decent area, a bit of grocery shops and a LUAS within some form of walking distance?

Is this all totally unrealistic?

iamstop

I bought a house in Winnipeg late 2022. My mortgage is about $1800 CAD (including insurance) with is about $1200. Rent in Dublin is mental.

hoodie6029

You wouldn’t get one in Ballina for that unfortunately.

circadian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121805048#Comment_121805048

Yeah but Winnipeg is a Frozen Shithole, to quote my favourite Winnipegean.

In all honesty, I quite like Winnipeg and agree renting in Dublin is absolutely insane.

MrMusician18

Not completely, but they are rare, very rare. They will be semi self contained units or granny flats and the max rent they can be (for tax purposes) is about €1200 per month.

iamstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121805219#Comment_121805219

Ah yes. Good ol' Aaron Funk, aka Venetian Snares. Met him at a small gig here. He got a bit annoyed at my buddy for talking to his lady. Lol. Good night that was.

danfrancisco83

I think you're looking at something like a granny flat for that money. This one looks very nice, it's in a good area near good transport links.

It's 1400 but all bills included.

Oscar_Madison

You want a toilet AND a shower? For 1300 a month?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121805048#Comment_121805048

yeah but you're in f**king winnipeg

iamstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121807974#Comment_121807974

True. I've booked my flights back to Europe for a few weeks in July though.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121808302#Comment_121808302

i've never been but spent a couple of years in calgary and my winnipegian friends thought calgary was a cosmopolitan paradise compared to it, and someone it's even colder than calgary

YellowLead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058337474/how-realistic-is-it-to-find-a-studio-apartment-for-around-1000-euros-per-month

Just go on daft and put in 1000 as the max and Dublin as the area (ignore the student and room in house ones), you’ll see what’s there. Competition is fierce though.

https://www.daft.ie/property-for-rent/dublin?rentalPrice_to=1000

HildaOgdenx

Mod - Moved to Accommodation & Property.

Local charter now applies.

ballyharpat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121805048#Comment_121805048

That's great, but it's not really relevant, the price and mortgage on a house in Poland is also cheap. Are you including Property taxes in the price? how much is a 1 bed apartment to rent there? $1,500?

The average price of a house in Canada is over 650k, in Winnipeg, it is about 350k.

You could get a 1 bed apartment in many places in Ireland for under 1k.

xyz13

Friend lives off Dorset Street (D7) and pays €800. Forks out a good €200 in electricity bill during winter down to greedy landlord controlling the central heating.

tinytobe

Thanks for the comments. I sometimes find small studios in Dublin for around 1300 to 1500, but not certain if the adds are fake or not. I sometimes think some adds on Daft.ie are fake ones, but it's possible they are being let within one hour or so? I was so far never certain.

I have a job in Dublin but wondering every day if I should quit, just because of housing issues. And shared accommodation isn't a good choice either. It works for 3 months, then everyone argues over something, one has never privacy as well, can't really invite friends, can't cook when one wants, and has to deal with different understandings of hygiene of co-habitants.

And yes, I've lived in Canada, through 5 strong winters, sometimes experiencing minus 30 degrees. However the good thing is Canada is prepared for that and that makes it a lot more bearable, plus it's a dry cold.

Winnipeg, or places like Saskatoon are nice choices, also Edmonton is rather affordable, and closer to the Rockies, even with direct flights to Amsterdam.

DubCount

OP, 1300 is not a big budget for a self contained rental in Dublin. Throw in close to Luas and nice area etc., and you are looking at a very small number of possible options. Even if you find some options that meet your criteria, there will be lots of competition, and unless you have a grade A tenant record, job and finances, you might not even get a viewing. I think you need to be more open to more areas and maybe a bit further out from the city. You might also need to consider sharing. I know thats not the message you want, but its tough even with a higher budget.

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121810168#Comment_121810168

The problem is that if I look further away from the city things don't get better. Yes, prices go down a bit, but it's also more remote, the commute more expensive and further away they would still be overpriced, even if the prices are lower.

I am more considering leaving Dublin and Ireland all together. Too many greedy landlords around, and too much of the Irish attitude "it's happening everywhere else as well". Which is luckily not, even London or Paris offer cheaper options than Dublin in terms of renting.

DubCount

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121811171#Comment_121811171

I reckon the problem is not that there are too many greedy landlords, its that there are not enough greedy landlords. More rental properties is what we need to bring prices down. Hope you get sorted with somewhere that suits you.

Yellow_Fern

these rentals are rare but they exist.

Claw Hammer

You could probably get a one room converted studio around Rathmines for €1k to €1200. You would get own bathroom but not own washing machine. Depending on the part of Rathmines you could have up toa 10 minute walk to the Luas. To get your own washing machine you are into purpose built at North of €1500.

Demand is keen for all accommodation in these locations at those price points so you would need to be on the ball.

Ray Palmer

I think it is simple your price point is too low to find such a place, There are probably people renting at that point for what you want due to RPZ. Those giving them up are likely going to offer it to a friend and they never go to the open market.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121809197#Comment_121809197

Hardly a 'greedy landlord' is he's giving him a studio apartment for €800 a month?

SharkMX

A friend just moved out of a room in a house in Lusk yesterday, which was actually 2 rooms on the end of the house converted to a 1 bed apartment with its own entrance and with washing machine, fridge, cooker and bathroom. He was paying €1150 per month including heating, electricity and broadband. I assume for it to qualify for the rent a room scheme.

Keep an eye out for it on daft or wherever over the next couple of days.

garrett b

Bring back bedsits. I lived in them for years, cheap and central (Dublin) and had everything you required in your post.

kalych

The problem with finding good deals on rentals is that you must consider at least 2 dimensions: 1 is obviously rent; 2 is how much time you have to find a place.

It's possible to find a good deal on a rental if you are already in safe accommodation with no pressure to move out soon. You can then set up an alert on Daft and track various Facebook groups to see if an appropriate place comes up that may have been caught up in an RPZ limited yearly increases and is in the desired price range.

It can take months and months of looking though as renters understandably are very unlikely to leave such a rental willingly unless they just bought their own place or are immigrating. And even in those cases they often find friends who will try to take their cheaper rental over.

If you don't have a place to be able to wait months and need something relatively urgently, say in 1-2 months time it's highly unlikely unless you get extremely lucky.

SharkMX

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121832983#Comment_121832983

I heard most rentals are going on facebook nowadays that are available. What groups would they be on?

xyz13

If you see how unkept the common areas are you won't think so highly of Mr. landlord! Besides, you cant have 2 people walking around, it's a struggle to find space to put clothes horse in.

€800 for a glorified box room with kitchenette. The whole space (including bathroom) is half the size of my bedroom.

Anyways, I dealt with this particular landlord on a property nearby, same issues with heating control. 1 bedroom dump"flat" in the same building is going for €1400.

DubCount

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121835529#Comment_121835529

You should become a landlord yourself to show all the greedy landlords how it should be done.

herbalplants

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121835529#Comment_121835529

What would you consider fair price 600 eur per month right? So the landlord gets after paying tax and sundry about 300 eur. 300 eur to deal to pay for the asset, to maintain it and deal with all the regulations and many rude tenants. Would you do it for 300 eur??

SharkMX

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121842407#Comment_121842407

Dont forget the tenant may decide one day not to pay and will be supported in that by the authorities so you you cant even count on that €300.

mrslancaster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121832718#Comment_121832718

If it had its own separate entrance then it's classified as a dwelling and a full tenancy. The rent-a-room is for shared accommodation where the owner/landlord also lives and is a licensee situation outside the rtb

But that could soon change if SF have their way.

I've mentioned it on another thread but RaR, licensees or lodgers/digs (room & board) will also become difficult to find if the SF bill before the dail is passed. The bill wants to include licensees under the remit of the RTB so anyone taking in a licensee would have to comply with rules and regulations set out in the Residential tenancies act.

SF have added special notice periods, lease terms, rules about dietary requirements, locks on doors, registration with rtb etc.

Can't see how any owner would want all that red tape for letting a room in their own home.

Claw Hammer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121852035#Comment_121852035

It is possible this accommodation is both under the rent a room scheme (which is a matter of taxation) and a tenancy which involves rights under the Tenancies Act administered by the RTB. Too many people fall into the trap of thinking that if a letting is in one it is automatically outside the other. In the situation described it is a dwelling unless the owner retains access by way of a communicating door. The owner can advise the tenant when they go in that they can be given a shorter period of notice of termination on account of the building being owner occupied.

SharkMX

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121852035#Comment_121852035

That one is gone now anyway (another couple we know are moving into it next month after they heard it had come available), but it is definitely the rent a room scheme. They have all their bills paid for (heat, electricity, hot water, internet). Their "front" door is a side door. There was a door into the main house that was always closed. They were told when they moved in that it was the rent a room scheme and that they had everything they needed in their apartment so wouldnt ever need to come into the main house and was that a problem for them.

I dont see the rent a room scheme ever being messed with. It would cause so many evictions that it would make the current housing crisis look tame. Nobody doing the rent a room scheme wants anyone they cant remove living with them. Im pretty sure that if there was even a hint of a change to the rent a room scheme you would see mass protective notices given before it was anywhere near a reality and then if it came in they would be all out on the street within days. Nobody is going to let themselves get caught like normal landlords did again (which had no small part to play in creating the situation we have today with homelessness and rocketing rents and house prices).

tinytobe

Thanks for all the posts.

I have actually left Dublin and Ireland due to the housing situation and uncertain job prospects where I was also promised things which didn't come to fruition.

One bedroom apartments were offered to me from Euro 1700 to roughly 2300 per month and that was only on the lower end of the market.

However with my job prospects and job uncertainties this would not have been commercially feasible from a personal financial perspective. Maybe a 2nd job and a 2nd income and working 12 hour days would have done it, but with no real room for also living my life.

In the end it wasn't worth it.

What I also noticed is that there were apartment blocks built, where one owner would own 20 or 30 apartments and be some kind of financial fund or something like that, and only rent them at their own terms and prices, often eve leaving them empty as well.

Emblematic

Might I ask where you moved to?

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098798#Comment_122098798

Temporarily with relatives on the EU mainland, but will be back in the UK, greater London area at some point.