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European Parliament Elections 2024 - Friday, June 7th

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,976 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Ming gave the impression of being the most on top of his brief for the debate - but as you said, his constant interrupting as well as his whinging whenever someone else interrupted him could well have grated on some people.

    Cowen had the air of someone who was pissed off at having to share the stage with other people - just came across as a bit belligerent.

    I thought Walsh was very quiet, and seemed lacking in confidence whenever she did speak. Very odd for someone who's been in office for the past 5 years.

    Casey seemed confused by the whole thing - it was like he had a checklist of points to make given to him by a handler, but he didn't understand them or even understand what points related to what question.

    Agree that McHugh gave the sense of someone who was running for the sake of it. She couldn't really articulate herself what she was hoping to achieve - other than keep slapping Casey down.

    MacManus not speaking too much was the best outcome for SF - he's not the brightest spark and is liable to dig himself into a hole. SF complain about nepotism in other parties, but MacManus is as bad an example of it as anyone else. Riding on the coat-tails of daddy, and the memory of his brother.

    I thought Toibin was let off very lightly when asked about his intention to contest the next GE. Voting for Peadar is really voting for his sister - but they know she's not capable of actually winning a seat herself.

    O'Reilly came across as the cookie-cutter green candidate prototype. Polite and well-meaning, but soft. Gave the distinct impression that she's just running because the Greens need to run someone.

    I thought Hannon was a bit of a disaster as a host/moderator. Missed lots of obvious follow-up questions; constantly allowed candidates to soapbox on unrelated issues instead of addressing the questions asked and really struggled to control things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,490 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    This isn't for candidates but a tool for comparing your own beliefs and values to the parties. I gave it a bash and it seems to have lined up pretty much where I expected to be

    https://ireland.isidewith.com/



  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭Miharo


    I think these polls will turn out to be way off just like the referendum. Would be shocked if Niall Boylans vote turns out that low. He's not part of the political establishment who there is a lot of anger out there for right now, has a public profile, the anti illegal immigration sentiment will see him pick up votes while not being as unpalatable to a lot if people as Dwyer or Heasman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I’m in this constituency so recorded & watched with interest.

    First off, why were there 2 greens on the panel ( McHugh for all intents & purpose is/was a green ), yet no SD?

    Cowan for me displayed arrogance as if he is #1 in the FF trio.

    I’m not convinced by Tóibín. I got the impression he’s clueless , especially on migration.

    I agree on O’Reilly.

    Of the 8, I would think Flanagan came out best. BUT, he is doing himself no favours with his persistent interruptions.


    I agree on Walsh. Also she started on gender quotas. For me, the gender of any MEP ( or TD for that matter ) is irrelevant, as long as the at person is best for the job.

    Casey, what a joke! He came across to me as a school teacher looking down on his pupils the way he posed. His stuttering on Ukraine ( he rambled off on Palestine/Israel, again Hannon messed up here as he never answered her question).

    I agree too on MacManus .

    McHugh? Totally out of her depth.

    Hannon was very poor I thought. Like You I thought she let Tóibín off too lightly. She was losing control over the farming issue.

    I may have missed this point, but with all the backchatting on the farming community, no mention on the culling of cows.

    I didn’t even know Casey was running - I haven’t seen one poster - tells me what he thinks of Kildare. Same goes for O’Reilly & Walsh.

    God help us come June 7, as what I saw last night didn’t instill me with any confidence.

    Post edited by WishUWereHere on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,976 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Casey - the wiley genius that he is - has put up some posters near the Grand Canal in Dublin; not in the constituency that he is running in.


    I’m originally from the north-west, and the parents are still there, so keep an interested eye on MNW still. The quality of candidates this time round - not just these 8 - is poor



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: one off-topic post deleted. Stay on topic folks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,190 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Niall Boylan hitting all the popular notes when talking, in which he has excellent experience. In my view he will get a seat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Listened to the debate on Drivetime, Cormac OHeadhra is a real pain, I can't abide him. Niall Boylan hasn't a clue but he was clever in hitting the points that the people he's appealing to want to hear, though I doubt they listen to Drivetime in huge numbers, he was the only candidate who shouted others down. It's very much the Trump approach, headlines and slogans but when pushed fir facts he's found wanting.

    I thought Gibney did OK, Lynn Boylan wasn't great but she doesn't have to be, she's going to be elected. The second group were better, more established politicians who know their stuff, Daly and Smith probably shaded it but don't think there was any real standout moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Lynn Boylan was struggling and her seat chances aren't certain given that she lost the last time. Her inability to answer where she would put reception centres showed her up. I'm not sure she's ever said anything in her political life of substance.

    Niall Boylan there to show up these chancers. It's perfectly normal for prospective politicians to speak up and argue their position to convince voters they really want the job. Not sure why you need to bring in a Trump comparison as this is what politicians have been doing for generations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭StormForce13


    In fairness, I can recall her saying - frequently - that she loved Ibrahim Halawa! I even recall a tweet from her stating that she couldn't sleep because she was thinking about him stuck in his Egyptian prison cell



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I suspect she'll be keeping that stuff quiet during this campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Lynn Boylan should have been moved on after the last time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    She's an MEP. Why are they asking her where she would put reception centres? Jesus, you'd really worry for political future if this is what broadcasters are asking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    She's a senator.

    So you're fine with her having no solutions. You're happy with her mediocrity just because she wants to be an MEP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    A career politician with no answers, no vision, no intelligence but happy to take the salaries.

    Her mantra appears to be "talking with our communities". Sinn Fein rubbish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    She's not to meant to have solutions for domestic policy. She's running as a MEP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    This isn't going to wash with the public. She looked out of her depth. Sinn Fein want to be the party of government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭Augme


    Oh I know. Most of the public have absolutely no idea what MEPs do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Lynn Boylan able to criticise the government on housing pretty grand. Nothing to do with being an MEP. She picks the topics she wants to comment on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭MFPM


    The question on reception centres was nonsense, that was O'Headhra asking rubbish questions that have nothing to do with Europe.

    Boylan behaved very much jn the way Trump does, wild statements and half truths but when pushed there's no substance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The government really going for the far right vote. Or is this not far right now?

    Asylum seekers to have their payment means tested.

    It'll be interesting to see if Sinn Fein oppose this measure.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0523/1450763-asylum-seekers-ireland/



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,383 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I think the point is more that while certain people may be able to effectively critique the government, they should not be asked these questions nor given the platform to do so in the context of candidature for the European Parliament. But people don't take European parliamentary elections seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    I'd be fairly confident that the majority(probably all) of AS will retain their 38 Euro a week payment….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭corkie


    Ireland South candidate Cynthia Ní Mhurchú complains to watchdog over online abuse on X

    • Ms Ní Mhurchú says she is regularly subject to abuse and called a 'stupid bitch' on the social media platform

    I had a look at tweets target at her and they don't seem that bad. Maybe some have already been removed.

    This silly complaint will probably lose her votes? Does her staff know how to use the platform? Mute, Block and Report!

    At least I know where she stands on #DSA and don't need to ask!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,490 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    How hard did you look?

    Here are some examples from only the last few days:

    It's actually quite interesting. Some of her tweets have little or no replies. Then every so often ones will have literally hundreds of replies from Irish flag type accounts that are laser focused on migration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Them comments are atrocious



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭corkie


    I didn't see any of the above when I checked her @'s as I said they may have been removed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,490 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Ah ok. No you have to go to her actual tweets and look at the comments underneath. The worst ones are usually at the very end as they get flagged as offensive and you need to click through to see them.

    Female politicians get dogs abuse online. The really sinister thing is that it's happening now as well in the real world. The Irish Times did a great bit of journalism last year where they talked anonymously to female TDs about their experiences. A few of them talked about their experiences on the record, Neassa Hourigan saying she wears a covid mask on the Luas to prevent people recognising her and giving her abuse, Josepha Madigan saying how some guy got furious with her in a clinic and then followed her out to her car shouting abuse at her when she tried to get away from him and Holly Cairns saying that someone showed up at her house.

    Social media seems to have turbo-charged the abuse. I don't know why any women would go into politics if they have to put up with this sh1t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭corkie


    Not interested enough in her to be go reading all her tweets! I may have mistakenly assumed that a reply to a tweet create an '@'? With 'replying to'.

    Edit: -

    as they get flagged as offensive and you need to click through to see them

    So her or staff have to actually click through flagged content to see them?

    In response to her complaint, I guess: -

    Coimisiún na Meán publishes Information Pack for all election candidates

    Post edited by corkie on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    This cut doesn't relate to the 38 euro payment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,335 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Anyone have any luck reporting posters?

    Some are far too low blocking footpaths etc, another one definitely no name and address of printers.

    Emailed but nothing back (in Dublin)

    Customerservices@dublincity.ie

    Localelections@dublincity.ie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,190 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    I contacted my local Council about ones <2.3m above footpath, they did some enforcement in fairness. Now, i just turn them sideways if I have time. There are too many posters to enforce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,170 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    So the far right grouping have kicked out AfD for saying the SS were "not all criminals".

    Is cancelling people for just speaking their mind not something the far right are against ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭robwen


    Think there's an Ireland South debate on the Tonight Show on Virgin one at 10pm tonight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,677 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The FF posters with 3 candidates is a real throwback to the 80s and 90s and now smacks of FF arrogance. I really hope they get nobody elected.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭corkie


    Post edited by corkie on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,883 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    FG & FF sending out the second string, presumably reckoning Kelly & Kelleher are home & hosed…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Kathleen Funcion of Sinn Fein is completely out of her depth on this debate on Virgin Media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,976 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Wallace comes across as the mad conspiracy theorist sitting at the bar, ranting at anyone that comes into earshot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Can't see how she is a shoe in ,,I don't really like to say this but Cynthia came across well,,I am guessing no chance of ousting kelleher?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭corkie


    Your Sinn Féin lady @Kathleensf1 has mentioned Ursula von der Leyen@vonderleyen_epp

    Allot tonight, she clearly doesn't want her Re-Elected as President of the EU Parliament!

    Edit: -

    Oh the Green's 'Grace O'Sullivan MEP@GraceOSllvn' person was also vocally against her! @Seth Brundle !!??

    Post edited by corkie on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,165 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Their should be a SF seat their and most assume she is the strongest from the party.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭StormForce13


    In which case one can only feel truly sorry for Paul Gavan. (Imagine being considered as being weaker than Funchion!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    NÌ Mhurchù was dreadful, nothing but face pulling, eye rolling, shouting and interruptions.

    Funcion comes across very meek.

    O'Sullivan went ranting and raving on her first point then burnt out and lost interest.

    Wallace pro peace not pro Russia. How poor would the other candidates be for him to get back in. Scripted and doubt he'll be bothered if turfed out now he's pension age.

    Mullins was the only one that resembled a politician and seemed to have some idea what was being discussed but I wouldn't vote for his party in a fit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    great video doing the rounds of Fianna Fáil fighting in public at a press conference.blaney and mehole publicly squabbling and your one the Eurovision presenter arse licking Martin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,475 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭corkie


    Report's that the Una McGurk, Senior Counsel and MEP candidate for Ireland South, has had her X account and other social media hacked. Reported by Lawyers For Justice Ireland@LFJIreland and she has youtube video up as well.

    Currently, her popular twitter account @GurkUna is not under her control!

    So be careful of any interactions with that account.

    Edit: - Could also be bogus news or disinformation.

    Edit 2: - I post this, instead of drafting it. And want to try and verify a few things. Something was making me feel off about it, also was having dinner.

    Anyway she has a new account setup and active.
    Una McGurk @Una_Mcgurk new account. If your a follower of hers.

    Post edited by corkie on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    O’Brien’s facial expressions standing behind Blaney is gas. Talk about looking uncomfortable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭StormForce13


    Bear in mind that if Wallace loses his seat then it's odds-on that Daly (if successful) will employ him as her Brussels teaboy and chief photocopier.



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