European Parliament Elections 2024 - Friday, June 7th

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122282465#Comment_122282465

No, of course I did not watch 30 minutes of video. She only speaks for about 3 minutes in total.

Now I know you are bluffing.

Lolzzz

I am done with you, as are you not an honest debater.

bren2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122282559#Comment_122282559

In the link you provided, she only speaks for about 3 minutes. I was referring to the first episode. From your follow on post, I realise you meant all 3 (which is ridiculous btw).

I have listened to what she said in episode 2 and episode 3. Nowhere does she mentioned backroom dealings or the length of the count. At the 2:05 mark of the 3rd episode she discusses the physical length of the ballot paper. However, that is not the topic being discussed here.

Can you point to where she discusses the negative consequences? Its entirely possible I missed something. There's only one person posting in bad faith here and it aint myself.

rock22

The elected members officially become MEP's only on the 16th July. So if they were having discussions it was not as MEPs

As on 14th June there are still ten countries who haven't confirmed their elected MEPs

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20240611IPR21948/election-2024-updated-seat-projection-for-new-european-parliament

Seth Brundle

Mod: no memes or one liners as per the charter!

corkie

@rock22 As on 14th June there are still ten countries who haven't confirmed their elected MEPs

As of yesterday and this morning there is 6 with provisional results only.

Some candidates did say they where waiting until elections where over before deciding on which groups to join!

@markodaly Your on a losing battle, even if you quoted a MEP, that person would probably be ripped to shreds if they made that sort of comment.

Meanwhile Sean Kelly tweeting again today.

Back in the European Parliament again as a reelected MEP on my fourth term. Busy times here as parties work to fill their positions and committees, but I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who voted for me and has made this happen.

corkie

Independent MEP Michael McNamara poised to join Fianna Fáil’s EU political family ~ [Archive Link]
The ex-Labour TD is in advanced talks with the Renew group

The renew group is in decline, now as of today down to 74 MEPs.

Former Czech PM Andrej Babiš has quit the liberal Renew group in the European Parliament.

I think McNamara was the candidate that said he would wait until after election to decide on what group to join?

Feedback on twitter a bit of turncoat was mentioned!

Drafted this post before 13:00 and was waiting to see if any other worthy news appeared.

dulpit

Turncoat from what? Do they want him in the super duper conservative section instead? He's ex Labour, you'd imagine the socialists or the liberals make most sense for him...

corkie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122288763#Comment_122288763

I assumed because people just read headline instead of article? At least with his stated views on Ursula von der Leyen he didn't join EPP Group!

Brussels Sprout

McNamara was critical of lockdowns during Covid and asked Helen McEntee tough questions on migration. A lot of the far-right seemed to deduce from that that he was one of them (and likely gave him high preferences). It's not his fault that they jumped to conclusions.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289484#Comment_122289484

Exactly , they saw a few snippets of the above and assumed he was an Anti-Vax, Anti-Immigrant far-right type - Completely ignoring every other piece of evidence available to show that he was none of those things

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122288512#Comment_122288512

He is ex Labour and like many rural Labour members would be very close in ethos to the left wing side of FF, eg small farmers, small local business people or the ordinary worker's that support FF.

His choice was Renew or the socialists. Renew are probably offering him the best deal from tge point of view of committees he wants onto. He is a serious political operator

corkie

Von der Leyen, Costa, Kallas approved for EU top jobs by negotiators
The three names will now be presented to EU leaders at a summit Thursday, for their approval.

The next step will be a meeting of EU leaders in Brussels on Thursday at which the three names will be presented to the heads of state and government, for their approval.

No surprises with the above? No other person was even suggested for Von der Leyen's role.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122301918#Comment_122301918

Well, they wouldn't be. These names have been agreed between representatives of the EPP, the Socialists and the Liberals, who between them have a majority in the Parliament. Not coincidentally, of the three names put forward one (von der Leyen) is a Christian Democrat, one (Costa) is a Socialist and one (Kallas) is a Liberal. Obviously this coalition is not going to put forward rival candidates for the same office; that's not how coalitions work. It's up to parties not in the coalition to propose rival candidates.

But whether do do so or not is a tactical decision. There are a diversity of parties outside those three, and they dislike one another even more than they dislike the EPP/the Socialists/the Liberals, so there is no possiblity of an agreed candidate between them. Thus anyone who is put forward by one of these groups won't look like "the opposition candidate"; they'll look like a fringe, marginal figure. The groups concerned may not see any value in positioning themselves this way.

The names are going to be put to a meeting of the European Council — the heads of government — and the Council does contain members who are not part of the EPP/Socialist/Liberal grouping: Orban from Hungary; Meloni from Italy; a few others. But the EPP/Socialist/Liberal grouping has a majority among national governments just as it does in the Parliament, so it will be surprising if these three people are not nominated by the Council.

rock22

Ireland and Spain asked the EU Commission to examine the workings of the trade deal with Israel, in particular to see if Israel is fulfilling its human rights obligations. That was back in February

https://www.thejournal.ie/taoiseach-leo-varadkar-urgent-review-of-israel-human-rights-obligations-6299185-Feb2024/

So far Von der Leyen appears to have ignored that request. Yet FG, as part of the EPP, is nominating Von der Leyen for a second term. Clearly FG seem unconcerned that the request from Ireland is being ignored.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122307250#Comment_122307250

How do you know that the request is being ignored?

rock22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122310398#Comment_122310398

Because no review has been announced.

corkie

https://www.politico.eu/article/european-council-summit-eu-leaders-ursula-von-der-leyen-giorgia-meloni-live-updates/

Well as to be expected. Hoping the FF MEP's stick to there election campaign promises and not vote for her. Even after The Taoiseach request today to support her. Even Sean Kelly tweeted on it and also try to tell the MEP's to vote along the group lines!

https://twitter.com/SeanKellyMEP/status/1806359910399017442

In other news as the Renew Europe group, increased there membership by 1 recently, I assume Michael McNamara has joined it.

Also Billy Kelleher @RenewEurope
MEPs elected him as their 1st Vice President.

golfball37

Depressing to see someone who excuses genocide elected without much of a critique.
How can the EU be taken seriously on Ukraine and other matters now if our principles are based on expediency

rock22

It is even more disappointing to see the Taoiseach suggesting that MEPs would vote for her so Ireland is not disadvantaged .

Hard to understand how FG can support V.d.Leyen now if there is a danger she would disadvantage Ireland because of our support for peace for Palestine. I hope irish media give prominence to the double standards of Harris

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314065#Comment_122314065

1. It's a secret ballot, so the idea that MEPs would support her to not disadvantage Ireland doesn't even make sense. Beyond that there is zero evidence that not supporting the Commission president is an inhibitor to having key roles in the Commission - and significant evidence against it.
2. She is literally their political groupings candidate. The "danger she would disadvantage Ireland because of our support for peace for Palestine" is entirely fictional.

rock22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314101#Comment_122314101

I am only repeating what Pascal Donoghue said on Radio this morning - maybe his exact words but his sentiment. It was mentioned that MM was already talking to the FF MEP's and it was better for FG not to get involved