FTTH install ???

vectra

I have copper broadband at up to 100mb speed.
I have renewed my eir contract to go with ftth 500mb plan.
What is any new wiring will need to be done?
Thanks

The Cush

New fibre optic cable from a DP on a nearby pole or chamber outside, to an ONT located inside the house, near to a power socket. The ONT converts the optical signal to an electrical signal.

The router is then connected to the ONT.

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121955320#Comment_121955320

Telegraph pole literally 30 feet from my house is where the present cable comes from. It enters my house through the soffit and into the attic, runs across the attic into my hot press where there is a connection box of some sort. Then down into my living room where the phone point is.
Do you think they will follow that route?
Don't want any hole drilled in outer walls or cables running down them.

The Cush

You can discuss how the cable will be run with the installer on the day.

Some installers won't go into the attic, health and safety related.

magicbastarder

Hijacking this - there's what appears to be FTTH boxes on the poles along the road where I live for a couple of months now but no info about whether or when it's available. The eir site still says they can deliver up to 100mb. Anywhere I can ask to find out if and when it's available?

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121956099#Comment_121956099

It appears eir can be slow to update their address file. Check your eircode with other retail providers.

magicbastarder

Thanks!

RobiePAX

OpenEir usually updates availability records once a month. You can't really query availability unless you have the neighbor who was connected to it but you were excluded. Then they will be willing to check what's up with that.

Otherwise if nobody in the area has FTTH then they'll just give a generic response that FTTH is being built but is not yet active in your area.

vectra

Installed today.
Tech guy was super obliging and ran the cable through the attic and into the hot press.
Switchover was withing 20 minutes. Went for the 500mb package as I don't think I would be getting any feeding faster than that.
All in all a great job.

vectra

Just an update on this.
Broadband is 100% upstairs.
Downstairs in the living room is hit and miss. Hot press is top of the stairs, If I put one of the Eir Mesh things in my front hall would it improve my downstairs signal?

babelfish1990

Yes - it should make a big difference

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122263434#Comment_122263434

Forgot to ask. Does it need ethernet ? Or does it hook to the f3000 wirelessly?

grinder23

Wirelessly

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122263897#Comment_122263897

Thanks,
Just decide now should I get one or two.
I'm sort of thinking one as the house is small.

babelfish1990

One is probably adequate if the house is small. Thick walls are a barrier to WiFi, particularly if they have a foil layer on insulation. By the way, you can daisy-chain the eir mesh devices wirelessly, but you can also use ethernet cable. if you have it.

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122264942#Comment_122264942

Yeah,
I'm thinking the chimney brest is blocking the signal as it is a double one back to back and Hot press upstairs would be bang on between it and where the signal is weak in my sitting room.
If I got the Eir Mesh device I could put it in my front hall which is right beside the sitting room and a few yards from the Kitchen area,
Sure I could always order a second one if needs be.
Thanks

babelfish1990

Sounds like the chimney breast and hot press are your problem. If there is a reasonably clear route along the landing and down the stairs, placing one unit in your hall should bounce the WiFi around ypur ground floor. Yes - you can always get another one later, if you need it.

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122265032#Comment_122265032

Yes,
Hot press directly at the top of the stairs. Hallway right below.
Will report back.
Thanks

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122265032#Comment_122265032

Update,
Just set it up there a while ago and let it settle before reporting back.
On my phone using home BB. Speedtest.
Kitchen
Before
254.8 down
47.1 up

After
320.1 down
50.4 up

Sitting room * black spot *
Before
44.3 down
50.3 up

After
253.2 down
34.7 up

The thing is.
from my hot press is literally 3 feet to the top step of my stairs.
13 steps to the hallway and the hub is positioned on a hall table 3 feet from the bottom step.
It is intermittently going from 3 green lights to chasing colors and dropping connection.
Damn, I would have thought a short distance like that would have been fine.
Next step????
Do I get another one and put it on a unit I have in the landing in the hopes it would boost the signal to the hall?
Or would it be possible to use a very long ethernet cable and move the modem to the landing? * Not 100% an option with my wife * 😛

Hotblack Desiato

Get everything that's fixed in place on wired ethernet if possible. Smart TVs, game consoles etc. and turn wifi off on these devices.

Wired backhaul for any mesh device as well. If it's just taking a wireless signal and repeating it, it halves the available throughput.

You can go 100 metres on ethernet which "should be enough for anyone"

Blazer

That will be my aim for the next year…wire in a 10gb network in the utility and get at least 2 network sockets in some of the rooms ie mine :)

I just got in 1gb broadband and the only device that can take advantage of it is my NAS as its wired directly to the router.

I have one of the TP mesh however the second one is backhauled wirelessly and this drops wifi down to about 180mb while the downstairs one plugged into the router gets about 700megs.

I'm also using powerline adapters for my pc..I was under the mistaken belief that the newer 2.5gb switch ones would increase my performance drastically but this isn't the case at all. Still limited to a max of about 220megs for my PC. So this will be my first target to fully hardwire.

Leaning towards this switch for the moment - I know its only 10GB in for the WAN and the LAN ports are 2.5GB but this would do me for a while. Main thing is to have all the wiring done beforehand.

https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/pro/category/all-switching/products/usw-pro-max-16

babelfish1990

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273159#Comment_122273159

I disagree that there is a need to wire everything - this is overkill. It would be fine if you were building a new house, but the mesh system should be fine, if you tweak the locations of the router, extension unit or, worst case get an extra extension unit to bounce around the hot-press. The hot-press is full of copper, and it will stop WiFi dead if it is blocking the line of sight from your router to the extension unit. Could you run cables through the hot-press, and mount the router on the other side of it, so that it has clear view of the other unit at the bottom of the stairs? Could you place the extension unit directly underneath the router downstairs (I am assuming it is upstairs). The WiFi might be able to go through the floor boards, if no underfloor heating or other pipes/wiring between the two floors at that point, and if the plasterboard isn't foil-backed? Then the extension unit might serve the whole ground floor from the new location? The before-and-after figures you show are quite good - but perhaps you are saying that they don't consistently stay at this level?

vectra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273442#Comment_122273442

You sir, are a genius.
I moved it to my kitchen this morning directly under the hot press and got fantastic speeds.
Then move it towards the front hall, placing it just inside the kitchen door on a unit ans still got similar speeds.
Did a speedtest in my sitting room which is back to back with my kitchen.
On the left of my tv on the chimney brest I was getting mid 40 to 60 fluctuating.
Did I test on the right hand side of the TV and was getting steady 220. this happens to be directly behind the block wall between the sitting room and where the unit is positioned.
I had my android box positioned on the left of the tv. Moved it to the right and did a speedtest.
steady 200 + every time.
Thanks for the time and advice.

Craigels

Getting my virgin 500mb upgrade to 1GB on Saturday. Can I ask installer to give me a second wired connection point in another room separate to the room with the router ?