Protest outside Roderick O' Gormans home - read OP before posting

spurious

It would not surprise me if many of the protestors don't vote at all.

Trigger Happy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041724#Comment_122041724

It would suprise me if many if them can read.

celt262

Someone has been busy this morning.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041720#Comment_122041720

Now wait, they were protesting people taking their Jobs...... I'm sorry, I almost made it. These scum (And they ARE scum) have no jobs. Shouldn't they be rioting and breaking into shops because of de bleedin' for-dinners?

mountain

there is a cohort of people who seem to have become untouchable in the past few years,

They harass pharmacists, librarians, immigrants, creep around crèches, roar abuse at politicians, and now this shameful carry on

Someone will get murdered, and the Gardaí and politicians will be remorseful then

The time to stop this behaviour is now

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122038569#Comment_122038569

Had o Gorman stayed in bed for the last four years, he would have been a hugely successful minister compared to what he has delivered, he's an ideological Godzilla, he wrecks everything he touches

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041886#Comment_122041886

This is a fair indication that he's actually making real progress on delivering what the Green Party said they would deliver. Maybe, as is the case with Eamonn Ryan, some people are just a bit shocked when a politician actually delivers.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041890#Comment_122041890

Funnily enough, I hadn't thought of that option, but thanks for the reminder. Again, when people have to resort to nasty personal attacks, it's another good indication that the politician is actually doing something positive.

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041921#Comment_122041921

Some heroes don't wear capes

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041926#Comment_122041926

Some heroes believe in democracy over mob rule.

JVince

You can be guaranteed that these thugs are

1 unemployed or at best in dead end jobs.

2. Poorly educated despite free education in the country

3. Mouthy feckers who think they know about life.

4. Most likely abuse their partners - if they have one.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041886#Comment_122041886

That is what you see in Northern Ireland and is it a success?

A TD makes changes, people complain

A TD doesn't make changes, people complain

Ask the same person would they become a TD, no a fu*king hope in hell.

The circle of life

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041926#Comment_122041926

Are you trying to claim the group of scumbags walking around with face mask are hero's?

z80CPU

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041852#Comment_122041852

Someone will get murdered

and become a "Martyr" ( well, in reality no more than mascot whose name or mughshot will appear on a rag they can wave around) for the gang

Something needs to be done sooner rather than later!

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041852#Comment_122041852

Largely due to the switch to the care in the community method of treatment along with the underlying and mismanagement of related services.

However there are people who are just born cúnts and there is no cure for that.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042334#Comment_122042334

Are you suggesting that we should revert to the good old days of locking away people who are a bit different so we don't have the trauma of dealing with difference?

'Care in the Community' was a UK policy, never an Irish policy. Yes, we have moved on from locking people away for mental health difficulties, or for being gay, or for being pregnant outside of marriage.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042347#Comment_122042347

We have moved from locking people up for nothing, to having people who cannot take care of themselves and at times being a danger to both themselves, their families and others , not getting the care they need because they will not agree to being treated. Sad state of affairs but it is the model we moved to in copying care in the community

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041938#Comment_122041938

See my earlier post where I condemned the mob and urged voters to deliver justice on this destructive minister at the ballot box

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042178#Comment_122042178

No and I'd be concerned at your interpretation skills if that's how you perceived the comment

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042347#Comment_122042347

Not really relevant to the issue of thugs harrassing o Gorman but the 180 which took place re_ people with severe mental health issues delivered the likes of that guy in Sydney last week

In Ireland we indeed incarcerated a lot of people who had little wrong with them but the pendulum swung far too far in the opposite direction, many health professionals will admit privately to this

Some poor unfortunates simply can't manage in the real world and are better permanently in a controlled environment, I have a relative in this category, thankfully he is in a controlled environment since 2012 but he was destined for prison had the guards not forced the HSE to eventually take action.

A weekly visit by a social worker simply isn't sufficient for some people

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041860#Comment_122041860

It was a new ministery created, I think at least Integration which imho should merge with Justice

TokTik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122039748#Comment_122039748

Not a single one

Sudden Valley

The performance of the TD has nothing to do whether a mob should be allowed intimidate him at home. But yet we still have posters here using this act as an opportunity to attack his politics.

cute geoge

Why are any people that protest against grotesque government policy called far right .It is there not a democratic right to protest .Like the labour party members came on Tv3 and accused the independents of being far right because they questioned government policy on immagration .

MFPM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042766#Comment_122042766

There are working class communities who've witnessed their communities suffer from under investment, housing shortages etc and they are angry and frustrated, elements of the far right have sought to exploit that anger pointing the finger at migrants. It's a play book we've seen before. The irony is that the none of these people leading the protests have been campaigning for their communities. Gavin Pepper in Finglas for example has never done anything for the people of Finglas, he's a loud mouth bigot blaming migrants for issues they're not responsible for.

cute geoge

I work with migrants every day and some are the finest but as many more are welfare migrants who never intend to do a days work and will receive free housing to disadvantage the working migrants and our own young people by driving up housing rent and prices.This is the crux of the problem laid bare and simple

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043348#Comment_122043348

Thanks teacher ,I never got the opportunites that are afforded to school goers nowadays and for 33 years worked my way from the bottom up .Up at 5 am most days still but it sickens my hole to see the cesspit this country ids being turned into by your truly!!

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122040981#Comment_122040981

Coppinger has about as much chance of being elected as winning the lotto.

PBP in for a roasting in the election.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122040846#Comment_122040846

Is that all it's about? I thought there was a little discussion too of what constitutes fair protest and what's the meaning of democracy etc.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043892#Comment_122043892

"I work with migrants every day and some are the finest but as many more are welfare migrants who never intend to do a days work and will receive free housing to disadvantage the working migrants and our own young people by driving up housing rent and prices. This is the crux of the problem laid bare and simple."

Say this loud and clear as there's a good few posters on this site who are inclined to ignore the 'bad with the good' bit.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122042766#Comment_122042766

Standing outside a persons home with abusive signs and wearing masks isnt a democratic protest while blocking the passage of said persons neighbours isnt democratic and isnt legitimate protest. Its intimidation.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122043775#Comment_122043775

Indeed. There are lack of facilities; schools, GPs, public transport. There was no protests about all the underinvestment until migrants came in.

nachouser

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Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122041261#Comment_122041261

Just to be clear.

House owned by person A.

Person B arrives, and throws banners / posters, etc. onto the external walls, gates of the house owned by person A.

That is not a crime, okay.

Therefore, can person C arrive, and take the posters/banners down, and that not be a crime?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044348#Comment_122044348

We're a reasonably tough nation of people, who tend to just crack on with things if we can.

The fact you are starting to see more and more of these frustrated people protesting, would be a very good sign that things have gotten a lot worse in the country. And when you know the problem is not organic in nature, but rather caused by bad and deliberate government policies, this engenders quite a lot of anger among people.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045000#Comment_122045000

The thing is, I'd be pretty confident that this very same lot are the same people who have gone library to library to protest LGBT books. They just wanna cause trouble and any subject matter doesn't match their basic ideals results in it.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045000#Comment_122045000

Yeah. You ignored the point I made that many people didn't start protesting about lack of facilities until they could blame refugees and migrants about it.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122044340#Comment_122044340

Agreed.

It wasn't right when Paul Murphys socialist goon squad barricaded Joan Burton in her car in Jobstown either.

The idea that the far right have a monopoly on unsavoury acts of protest isn't borne out by the facts.

As always we need more moderate voices and less attention should be given to anyone else.

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045160#Comment_122045160

there were moderate voices, but then the media and those in power decided to call anyone who raised questions about immigration far right and racists.

The rise in protests is as a direct result of government policy and the longer they refuse to listen to regular people the more they will alienate them.

slay55

I’m indifferent towards this

I would certainly not participate or encourage it.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045160#Comment_122045160

I never claimed it was right. Paul Murphys actions were disgusting then and disgusting now. But let's not pretend that far right actions actions haven't grown exponentially in your usual attempts to deflect.

Annasopra

https://twitter.com/EamonnVIDF/status/1781282440532709587?t=eONpK2j3cE_fYsqUV4lKJA&s=19

Interesting to note the group behind the ROG protest and who is involved in that group

Icepick

https://www.boards.ie/profile/679776/cute%20geoge

Source for many more?

Your anecdotal feelings are not a reliable source.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045115#Comment_122045115

Excuse me, but there have been local people protesting about closure of regional hospitals and schools and so on for long before these times. What rock have you appeared out from under?

eggy81

Didn’t count when you couldn’t label them as far right.

1800_Ladladlad

There has been an awful lot of people making a lot of fuss without asking the relevant questions. Do you not think its suspicious that his armed Garda detail apparently sat and watched on while an alleged 'group of masked male protesters' erected protest banners outside his home? When compared to what happened in Newtown Mount Kennedy during the week when an elderly man was hauled away and man hand on the ground by the Gardai thugs for hanging onto a wooden pallet. These examples are endless. The fact Gardaí said they maintained a presence until the group dispersed, later confirming no arrests were made. It was either staged or those people were not breaking the law. Attack on democracy this. Attack on democracy that. That's all we are hearing but in any other functioning democracy, police would have stepped in and removed at least the banners. The people would have been detained, questioned, unmasked and/or arrested under public order but no. The Government needs a timely distraction to manipulate public opinion when its' failing immigration/integration policy is questioned by the voters. It was only last 2 weeks ago Newstalk reporter Paul Connelly went undercover with an award-winning BBC documentary maker, Darragh Adelaide of People Before Profit, and Antifa members dressed up pretending to be ‘the far right’ attempting to cause sh*te to provoke a reaction. This is not the first time they've done this.

So as far as I can see the only person to gain from this bullsh*t is the O’Gorman himself who was under enormous pressure this week for misleading and lying to the people during the referendum campaign, all to distract from the referendum’s failure as well as the extremely democratic EU Migration Pact, just as the riots in Dublin City allowed the government and the media to deflect attention away from children getting stabbed. And then for it all to lead to the Green Party’s conference where O’Gorman gets to invoke victim status and be stunning and brave. It's all rather convenient. There's an awful lot of hysterics and hypocrisy of course…

Minister Humphreys says intimidation of politicians ‘An attack on our democracy’. ‘Do you know what youse boys do? **** off and leave me alone’: she tells two journalists when asked about her derelict flats. She’s well able to handle herself. I can't see her being attacked.

https://www.pbp.ie/people-before-profit-protest-outside-the-minister-for-justice-home/ https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklow/bray-news/sinn-fein-stage-protest-at-minister-roches-home/27639114.html

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122046673#Comment_122046673

i witnessed first hand what happened on Monday in Newtown. I posted my observations, (which has now disappeared) and was mocked in Post #228 with 26 likes. This Country is full of people who would rather run down their own than give critical thought to how those in power are failing us.

I don't condone what happened outside ROG home, but what happened here in Newtown over last weekend and into Monday, I can totally understand why people could be driven to that.

nachouser

There's no reasonable case to protest outside anyone's house wearing masks and putting up banners denoucing that person.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122045557#Comment_122045557

Pointing out that all flavours of extremism result in bad outcomes is deflection?

AndrewJRenko

Did you ever get to find that invitation @Geuze ?

Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122038905#Comment_122038905

Cut the B.S. You know full well who they were.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122047944#Comment_122047944

It's whataboutery and an attempt to deflect from far right intimidation.