Gardaí announce locations for nine new static speed cameras throughout Ireland

mydiscworld

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/static-speed-camera-locations-ireland-32712926

• Galway - N59, between Moycullen and Galway City
• Waterford - N25, between Glenmore and Luffany
• Wicklow - R772, Arklow Road, Aske, north of Gorey
• Donegal - N14, east of Letterkenny
• Carlow - N80, between Barristown and Levitstown
• Dublin - Crumlin Road/Parnell Road/Dolphin Road/Dolphin’s Barn Junction
• Mayo - N17, northeast of Claremorris
• Cork - N22, east of Lissarda, west of Ovens
• Limerick - N69, east of Askeaton

The nine new cameras will join the average speed cameras for the N3 (Butler’s Bridge - Cavan), N5 (Swinford - Mayo), and N2 (Slane - Meath), which are expected to be operational in early 2025.

JohnC.

Are these to be average speed or just standard cameras?

Leatra

The article in the Examiner makes it sound like these aren't average speed cameras: "They will cost approximately €2.4m over the next 18 months and are hoped to be in operation by the end of 2024. The new cameras will join the average speed cameras on the N3 (Butler’s Bridge), N5 (Swinford), and N2 (Slane), which are expected to be operational in Q4 2024." https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41386081.html

looksee

Glenmore to Luffany is in Kilkenny, not Waterford, unless there are others I don't know about?

Limerick74

The 9 static speed cameras are not average speed camera arrangements like on the M7. They are single fixed cameras at one location and don’t move around as per the speed camera vans afaik.

Edit: After reading other articles not so sure now and all could be average speed cameras. We’ll see.

jelutong

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122087288#Comment_122087288

That is one dangerous stretch of road.

ItHurtsWhenIP

The RTE News article seemed clear …

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0501/1446822-speed-cameras/

There are 9 static cameras along with 3 additional average speed cameras:

The cameras will operate alongside average speed cameras on the N3 at Butler's Bridge, the N5 in Swinford and the N2 in Slane, which are expected to be operational in early Q4 2024.

Limerick74

that matches with Garda press statement:

- Static and average speed cameras are one of a range of Garda technology, enforcement, visibility, and education initiatives to reduce road deaths as part of the Government’s Road Safety Strategy. 

An Garda Síochána has today announced the locations of nine static speed safety cameras, which are aimed to be fully operational by the end of 2024.

Kaisr Sose

This location is a surprise. Is it bad there?

• Dublin - Crumlin Road/Parnell Road/Dolphin Road/Dolphin’s Barn Junction

n.d.os

• Wicklow - R772, Arklow Road, Aske, north of Gorey

I'm local to this one and happy to see they are doing something with this road. It attracts boy racers at night and there's been a lot of bad accidents on this road over the years. The road badly needs to be re-lined with new cat eyes at the Scarnagh cross roads. It's difficult to navigate this stretch of road at night.

AugustusMinimus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092128#Comment_122092128

How’s it going to help with boy racers? They’ll just slow for the static speed camera.

Homer

surely most drivers these days are somewhat savvy and use the likes of Waze which will simply warn them well in advance they are approaching a speed camera and they simply slow down till they pass it. Seems like a waste of €2.4 million to me.

AugustusMinimus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092259#Comment_122092259

It’s a crazy waste of money in my eyes which could have hit some way to try to tackle the true scourge on the roads at the moment which is mobile phone usage.

SuperBowserWorld

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Limerick74

The average speed cameras are far more effective than static cameras but expensive and difficult to implement on legacy roads with multiple junctions and entrances along the section of road. Scotland use them well on rural roads.

p_haugh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092263#Comment_122092263

Wasn't there mention somewhere that the cameras could theoretically also use AI to detect phone usage, or was the specifically for the red light cameras?

Edit: it is in fact for the 9 static speed cameras (for now)

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2023/04/25/ai-cameras-capable-of-detecting-phone-and-seatbelt-use-considered-by-garda/

AugustusMinimus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122093506#Comment_122093506

Those with Waze and other apps will get a warning to slow down and stop using their phones. Utterly useless.

Havenowt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092259#Comment_122092259

Maybe the €2.4m could be used to upgrade the sections of the roads where these black spots are.

pauly58

Speed isn't the problem on that stretch of the N22, it's cars coming from the Cork direction in the slowing lane to turn into Crookstown blocking the view of cars coming out, they are blindsided can't see clearly but pull out anyway.

n.d.os

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092258#Comment_122092258

Because these guys aren't the smartest tools in the shed and if they know there is a speed camera on a road they will avoid it.

Fieldsman

Could some of that money be used to cut branches and hedges that cover signposts and traffic lights that I see myself every day

AugustusMinimus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122094821#Comment_122094821

They’re most likely ultra aware of where speed cameras are and certainly won’t be caught by a static camera.

28064212

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122094856#Comment_122094856

Since the speed cameras are funded out of the Garda budget, and responsibility for cutting hedges falls on landowners (and enforcement of such falls on local authorities), no, it couldn't be

L1011

I remember the original static camera deployment. They just gave up on them in the late 00s for some reason. Some had become basically pointless - the one on the old N2 had a fraction of its old traffic - and some needed to be altered due to the road massively changing - the two on the M50 and the one on the N4 - but they all just went.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092112#Comment_122092112

There was one cyclist death and a child seriously injured in recent months, leading to a local campaign.

TheChizler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092259#Comment_122092259

Isn't that the idea, to get people to slow down? We just need way more of them. Average speed ones too.

Sam Russell

Surely they will be active ANPR so will check motor tax, nct, and insurance cover as well as speed.

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092259#Comment_122092259

The goal of speed cameras is not to make money, it's to make people slow down and therefore reduce accidents.

If people are getting notified of cameras and then slow down, mission accomplished that's the whole point of the cameras in the first place!

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122095133#Comment_122095133

No, the whole point of the speed cameras is purely to catch people out and make money. If it was for safety as you say then the road death figures would be dropping over the years rather than increasing.

"Road safety" is a big cash cow for the government. The more we distract from the actual concerns (i.e. poor road layout, poor road condition,poor public transport, disproportionate numbers of slow/geriatric/novice/incompetent road users) the better.

AugustusMinimus

Static speed cameras are neither. It is a lazy way to make governments and safety authorities look like they are doing something about road safety.

Witcher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122094932#Comment_122094932

The child having been injured by a cyclist who then left the scene...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41166475.html

Kaisr Sose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122094856#Comment_122094856

Or repaint road markings. May roads they are totally absent/indecernable from years of wear

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122095163#Comment_122095163

Road deaths are increasing due to increasing population and other factors like phone use, it doesn't mean that speed cameras are not having an impact. If speed enforcement disappeared tomorrow deaths would be even higher

KrisW1001

Yes. Speed is an exacerbating factor in every road incident. It turns near misses into fatalities, and that's why it's being policed.

Naturally you get the guys (it's always males) who think they're so much better at driving than anyone else and thus see this as an unacceptable imposition on their rights, but those guys are, frankly, idiots, and they're not even representative of the people who are into cars.

I know a few people who are really into the car scene here, one of whom has a pretty solid rallying career behind him, titles included. The one thing that they never did was speed on the public road. In motorsport circles, speeding and dicking around is the mark of the knobend.

n.d.os

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122094886#Comment_122094886

The whole idea is to make people aware of danger and speed. Yes, everyone will be aware of it but it might encourage them to slowdown elsewhere on this stretch of road which currently is a the old main road out of Arklow into Gorey and particularly dangerous at night due to it's high speed limit, poor visibility and lack of sufficient road markings.

Calahonda52

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092259#Comment_122092259

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122092259#Comment_122092259

the well signposted average speed cameras on the M7 near Birdhill still get multiple drivers every day, not all from NI who lash through at 130 and more

IsaacWunder

It is absolutely, mind-numbingly moronic that they’re even proposing to erect static speed cameras in 2024. It is technology that is 30 years out of date. I could not think of a bigger waste of money.

David Tucker

I saw some of these speed cameras being constructed on the Enniskillen to Cavan road last week although not mentioned in the list above, they were yellow. I remember them from the A40 near London in the 1990s. At the time they had 7 or 8 of them within 10 miles but they moved the cameras between them because cameras and film were expensive and I think the psychology that people didn't know which one had film made people slow down at all of them. This new effort may or may not be successful but it is another way to remind people slow down at known dangerous places. It may save lives, so it is worth the investment on a new idea for Ireland.

MayoSalmon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122129195#Comment_122129195

How about a bike shed or a million euro security hut