2024 USPGA - Valhalla

Mushy

Didn't see a thread so said I'd start one.

Tee times: https://www.pgachampionship.com/starting-times

Rory returning to scene of his last major triumph, but then winning 3 on the trot will be difficult, let alone if there'll be an impact following today's news. He's out with DJ and Rose at 1.15 Thursday and 6.40 Friday (get the beers in).

Lowry out with Day and Hojgaard at 6.18 and 12.53, Harrington out with Reed and Burns at 7.35 and 2.10.

spacecoyote

It's an interesting dynamic. Most guys have a fall in form when a new baby arrives on the scene, but Scottie does seem to manage to segment his life really well.

Rory obviously had a lot going on behind closed doors. Gives more context to the Par 3 Contest at the Masters I guess. But maybe having it in the open has to an extent lifted some pressure off him?

Still hard to know how the Liv guys will perform.

The course looks tricky off the tee potentially, with rough cut away around fairway bunkers and fairways sloping towards them, in a linksy kind of style I believe, so could be a premium on accuracy over pure power maybe?

Trampas

Will they push the tee up on 13 to make it drivable

eagle eye

The more I hear about Scottie Scheffler the more I like and respect him.

The latest news. Ted Scott's daughter has her graduation on Saturday. He's going home for it and coming back in Sunday. Scottie will have a temporary caddie on the Saturday of a major.

How many other players would allow this? I think you'd be looking long and hard to find one.

The Big Easy

If Scottie wins this one, I'll be really impressed. Think everyone is kind of playing down the life changing experience he and his wife have just been through.

If he doesn't miss a beat, I'll be pretty surprised.

I've just read that his caddy will miss Saturday's round as he'll be at his daughter's graduation before coming back again for the final round.

So, yeah, if he overcomes all that to win I'll be mightily impressed!

blue note

Rory's win here in 2014 was as enjoyable a golf tournament as I've ever seen. I'd love a repeat of it.

Trampas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141066#Comment_122141066

People have babies all the time so let’s not make out this is different to Scottie as I don’t believe he had a baby but his wife.

Fair play to him about his caddy as some wouldn’t allow it. Kuchar probably charge the caddy for leaving him high and dry

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141533#Comment_122141533

Yeah, but how many win Majors the week after becoming a father?

willabur

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141659#Comment_122141659

hopefully less than after filing for divorce

Trampas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141659#Comment_122141659

how many have become a father the week before a major. If anything he’s probably having a great sleep this week. His wife having a child with have no effect on him.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141932#Comment_122141932

Yeah I'd say it's much easier than when you are on baby watch and ready to get there at a moments notice. He said he'd pull out if a tournament even if he was winning on a Sunday to be there for the birth of his child.

He's a regular family man just like the rest of the world.

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122141932#Comment_122141932

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122142007#Comment_122142007

I don't know how old you lads are, but having a baby these days is a whole different ball-game ;)

bobster453

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122142131#Comment_122142131

How?

bobster453

I would love to see Rory win but head says Mr.Consistency Scottie will do it.

Some are saying Rorys divorce notification will affect him but that has obviously been in the background for some time and might explain his poor form the past while.

He played Quail Hollow with a freedom I havent seen in him for ages.Possible that the end of background issues enabled him to relax and enjoy his golf.

If so,and he replicates that freedom this week I dont think anyone will be able to stop him.

Certainly shaping up for a great 4 days of golf.

Hope it doesnt disappoint.

spacecoyote

Well knew things about Rory, similar to likes of Tiger, is that he likes certain courses and has a record of repeat wins.

Last week being a case in point, so maybe Valhalla is just the right time for him

Dr. Bre

Rory won it in 2014 with a score of -16. Are we looking at a similar score or is the course tougher now?

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122142131#Comment_122142131

I had a baby in 2014. I'd be of the opinion you don't know what you're talking about.

While Scottie is clearly a family man he has to play the Majors. Let's see how many tournaments between the PGA and US open. I'd be very surprised if he plays more than one.

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122142531#Comment_122142531

And all this time, I thought you were male

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122143023#Comment_122143023

Well seeing as we played golf together you should know.....😁

Deeper Blue

Michael Block won't be repeating last year's heroics by the looks of things, 5 over through two holes!

drury..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122142292#Comment_122142292

I'd like that question answered

Trampas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145307#Comment_122145307

Walking back and forward on the second

Deeper Blue

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122145328#Comment_122145328

Twas like watching myself!

DellyBelly

Nice birdie on the 1st for Rory

drury..

Sky don't spare the ads

TNT are better in that respect

Speak Now

Official site could do with getting the front 9 pars correct.

Mushy

I could probably finish a 500 yard hole in 493 shots alright

drury..

The play seems slow as christmas

Trampas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146100#Comment_122146100

When is a major never but slow

drury..

McIlroy hits the flag

eagle eye

The course is playing easy. Scheffler might rip it apart if he's in go mode today.

Speak Now

Dreadful start by Lowry, bogeys on first 2.

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monkeybutter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146711#Comment_122146711

Give him a break he's just off a win 🤣

Speak Now

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146741#Comment_122146741

Tap in birdie on 4 😋

Trampas

Scottie struggling with sleepless nights

eagle eye

What did I tell you about Scheffler. Some start for the best golfer in the world.

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146771#Comment_122146771

Ridiculous

Rikand

I dont think they showed us enough angles of that hole out from Scottie

Trampas

Rambo having a mare

big_drive

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122146975#Comment_122146975

Going to Liv seems to have finished him

Ohmeha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122147020#Comment_122147020

If you watched his PGA pre-tournament press conference the other night you will know LIV has finished his brain cells aswell

FixdePitchmark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122147020#Comment_122147020

Look he has so much talent..he will bounce back and find a new way.

But he is an unusual character..he needs that sort of competitive edge ..alpha male thing going on...being a sort of nobody is not good for him personality wise...he never even liked Rory being the main man in any situation.

But he will be back like Rambo in first blood ...or was that Arnie ?

prawnsambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122147277#Comment_122147277

You're describing a guy who should never have been within 100 miles of LIV. Too much 'team' clutter and other distractions that play against the lone wolf mentality.

FixdePitchmark

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122147429#Comment_122147429

Agree 100 % ...but I guess whatever the hell he got .

1/4 of a billion..it makes him a happy lone wolf ..with as many vixens around him he wants...

awec

Playing with Brian Harman would drive me nuts with that pre-shot routine. Just hit the damn ball.

As far as slow play goes my favourite so far is Mickelson spending 3-4 minutes looking at a sprinkler, having a chat with a rules official about said sprinkler only to decide it wasn’t even in his way anyway. Good grief.

cosatron

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122147485#Comment_122147485

I counted 8 club waggles before 1 shot

Brief_Lives

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122147485#Comment_122147485

i was thinking about that last night, before i read this thread… it was a peach of a shot, but the drop wasn't a drop and then he did the whole Dan Biggar dance before hitting the ball

animajic

Yeah that Phil drop was strange, he seemed to have his line chosen before the official even got there so it was a bit of a waste of time. Either that or by the time the official was there he didn't want to waste any more time with a drop

Break80

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122142131#Comment_122142131

Sorry, can't let this one go.

Will someone please explain to me what changed in the 25 yrs since my last baby?

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122148005#Comment_122148005

I'd imagine what easy is saying is that men are expected to be a lot more involved with their children than in times past. Lot harder to get away with being an absent father and spending 6 hours golfing every weekend.

I'd often play with older lads and they'd tell me when they had their kids 20/30 years ago they weren't expected to do much. It was the norm to play golf Saturday and Sunday, pints in the clubhouse afterwards and arrive home once the kids are in bed.

The Big Easy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122148005#Comment_122148005

Ok, what I said was a flippant comment to two lads who thought having a baby would have no effect on SS, or more specifically that his wife had the baby and was almost of no concern to SS.

Trigger warning: I will expand using generalisations and some sweeping ones. There has always been a spectrum of parental involvement although these have and continue to shift. There was a time when economically, one wage raised a family, and most of the the time, the division was that the father went to work, and the mother stayed at home to raise the family.

This is no longer the case although probably is with SS and a lot of other professional golfers. SS is also religiously conservative, so not too outlandish to expect he is conservative in other areas too.

Societal and cultural norms have shifted almost universally in the West, so that even if you provide all the financial resources, the expectation is still almost 50/50 in all aspects of the home and family. And certainly where both parents work, the father is generally just as involved directly in child rearing from the very beginning.

If you don't think fathers are more involved in raising children from infancy now than 25 years ago or even 10/15 years ago, you were either a very progressive father or you are in some kind of denial.

Regardless of financial considerations there is now an expectation that night feeds, nappy changing, making dinners (for the whole family), cleaning, trips to the doctor/PHN, shopping is shared equally.

Generalisation/trigger warning: The days of saluting the new arrival in the pub, sleeping in the spare room for a good night's sleep, coming home to a cooked dinner, throwing the baby up in the air for twenty minutes before settling down to watch the match or head out for a pint are long gone.

I'm not interested in a personal back and forth, each individual knows what was involved for them and no one on the Internet knows otherwise. I'm talking more generally and speaking to the universal shift in Western norms regarding work, family life and child rearing and was only replying to posters saying that having a baby doesn't effect the father, specifically SS, in the same way as the mother.

And maybe in the case of SS they are correct due to his own cultural norms and expectations, although I'd still believe it's a different experience for him also.