Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204372#Comment_122204372

The conspiracy theory forum might be more suitable for you

Maxface

Either you are a criminal and support criminals, or don't.

Cody montana

The trumpies are not taking this well.

Love it.

TheRepentent

Oh the orange manbaby won't like this at all

everlast75

Ooooh, I forgot this!

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1796301820521795704

ForestFire

Does anyone think this will only make Trump stronger in the elections?

He and his supporters will use this as much as possible…Drain the swap and all that

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204372#Comment_122204372

You seem confused. This is due process to Trump who is a rapist and fraudster, someone who tried to steal an election and ignores any law that gets in his way.

Or do you think Trump should be able to commit illegal acts and not be held to account?

Meanwhile in Putins Russia Trump would already have died via an open window, stair fall, heart attack or plane crash. Taje your pick.

PropJoe10

He's blaming George Soros now. Busting all those greatest hits right out. What a guy.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204388#Comment_122204388

I can’t see independents siding with a convicted felon.

zerosquared

So Melania (who hasn’t showed up to support husband at any stage) now has grounds for divorce?

Billy Mays

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MisterAnarchy

That might be what think you did.

Having seen your previous
attempts at defences of Trump that counts for exactly nothing. If you
cant be bothered reference these old posts aint nobody else going to do
it for you.

All I see are simple questions put to you and dodged
here and now. I expect your previous 'explanations' similarly dont stand
up to any scrutiny.

He was found guilty in court on all 34 legal charges. Your claims have no standing or foundation in comparison to that.

You
said the trial was unfair. Old posts cannot speak to that given the
trial hasnt been running that long. You have provided no attempt, no
evidence to show that the trial was unfair. So your claim is without
basis and without merit.

Still you trot out any excuse to defend
the rapist. All the while pretending you are not a Trump defender and
fooling no one except yourself in doing so.

Did Trump do the things he was convicted for?

Should politicians be able to conduct the campaign like that without consequence?

You
seem to be arguing Trump should be allowed to get away with illegal
conduct because he is Trump. Which would in fact be political thing to
do.

Im not going back through my lengthy posts on this topic just to appease you.

You know well I have already explained why this case was a witch hunt and a kangaroo court.

Ive said multiple times that I dont want Trump to be the next President, and the reasons why.

However I want to see fair courts in the US but these cases against Trump are witchhunts, artificially constructed cases by a biased Attorney General whose main campaign promise was to jail trump.

Does anyone think this will only make Trump stronger in the elections?

He and his supporters will use this as much as possible…Drain the swap and all that

Its quite possible.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/TotalSeasons/status/1796285010837696571

Legends

TinyMuffin

so much winning.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204150#Comment_122204150

Trump will make up reasons - His lawyers looked to have the case thrown out for some reason or other virtually every day of the trial.

But my guess is that they'll try the "Weinstein defence" where they'll claim that because the Judge said that he'd allow the Prosecution to ask Trump about other cases/crimes that it made it impossible for him to testify in his own defence and as a result impacting the findings.

It worked for Weinstein I guess.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204406#Comment_122204406

There's not one person on here who doesn't believe that had the jury acquitted trump, you would be singing their praises.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204308#Comment_122204308

Needless pedantry. Trump is a rapist, end of story.

gneel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204238#Comment_122204238

**** yes it's worth celebrating. For once this piece of ****'s lies have caught up with him. What's not to celebrate. Lock him the **** up

maebee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204399#Comment_122204399

She's had grounds for divorce for years. She knows that her husband was with Stormy but maybe Melania wants a second shot at FLOTUS.

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204406#Comment_122204406

There isn't a single personal attack in the quoted post. The poster is simply challenging your continual nonsense. I cannot remember a single time where you actually added anything constructive to this thread. All you do is drop weird statements that you then can't back up with any sort of rationale and evidence, and get defensive when someone questions you. I don't know why I'm even bothering trying to engage with you. My bad, really.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204403#Comment_122204403

We shall see who has the last laugh in November if Trump wins.

zerosquared

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204432#Comment_122204432

From a prison cell?

political analyst

The following article was written by Professor Noah Feldman of Harvard and published earlier this year. Click on "Are you a robot?" and the link will appear.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-02-29/the-supreme-court-isn-t-slow-walking-trump-s-jan-6-immunity-case

Here's a summary of Feldman's article:

It's inaccurate and unfair to say that SCOTUS is stalling for Trump's benefit.

Merrick Garland appointed Jack Smith as special prosecutor in the Jan 6th insurrection case on 18 Nov 2022. Smith's team indicted Trump on 1 Aug 2023. The delays might be justified by the goal of restoring the DOJ to an apolitical approach to both investigating and prosecuting.

The immunity issue deserves serious airing.

SCOTUS precedent: A sitting president is immune from civil suits for conduct performed within scope of duties while in office.

Criminal suits are different but the reasons for that need clear articulation. If SCOTUS defers to the DC Circuit, that leaves open the issue of whether an ex-president outside DC could be criminally prosecuted. There's the meaningful question of the real-world, practical effects of allowing such charges. When Bill Clinton was president, judges didn't foresee the way the civil suit taken by Paula Jones against Clinton became part of investigations in the last 2 years of his presidency.

SCOTUS has to consider the risk that a future president would criminally prosecute a predecessor.

Summarily affirming the DC Circuit or refusing to hear Trump's case would've fallen short of the normal amount of care and attention afforded by SCOTUS even to cases of minor importance.

Comparison: Nixon didn't turn over all materials to prosecutor Leon Jaworski.

Contrast: Trump isn't violating a direct judicial order in the Jan 6th case and so he's exercising his constitutional right to bring an immunity claim to SCOTUS.

It's not SCOTUS's responsibility to speed up the trial for it to happen before election. The timing was set by the Biden administration's decision not to appoint Jack Smith until long after Jan 6th.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204234#Comment_122204234

Have you ever stopped to wonder WHY New Yorkers hate him??

They've ALWAYS hated him - They hated him when he was a Libertarian and they hated him he was a Democrat.

Their reasons for hating him have nothing to do with politics.

They hate him because they KNOW him.

They know he's a dirty low down crook , they know that he has cheated his way to everything he has ever gotten in his life.

Bear in mind , the general consensus was that this was the weakest of the multitude of cases against him and he's just been found guilty on all charges.

Georgia up next I suspect.

Time will indeed tell.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204412#Comment_122204412

The jury were never going to acquit Trump.

They were selected to do a job and they did it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204391#Comment_122204391

You're characterisation of him is based is off a corrupt justice system and media, who are out to get him.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204372#Comment_122204372

I hear a window is on its way to him as we speak.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204255#Comment_122204255

Hah! Consistent my arse!

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204439#Comment_122204439

You know his defence had their say in jury selection, right? They only had to find one juror who didn't think he was guilty and trump would have got away with it. They couldn't even manage that.

Bass Reeves

Larry Hogan a former Governer of Mary land and looking for a nomination for the Senate called for Americans "to respect the verdict and the legal process''. As well former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson said ''the jury verdict should be respected''.

id it time for Nickki Haley to reconsider her support for Trump or ask for the verdict to be respected. You could see support dwindle away over the couple of months

The USA had gone to sh1t. Trusting the word of a porn actress over a former president and a successful business man, is ridiculous. The US looks stupid on the world stage. It's credibility is gone down the drain.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204406#Comment_122204406

You can argue all that, but you can't argue against a jury conviction given what was presented, the legal system has bent over backwards to accommodate trumps sh!thousery.

I know it's a pile on for the remaining MAGA heads, but any rational thought in your head has to be admitting defeat on this one as the alternative is Biden is much more wily and capable than you ever imagined and you'd need to spend your boating days posting on the CT forum.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204439#Comment_122204439

So going by your logic, Trump could never truly be found guilty because it would always be a setup and rigged against him.

Using that reasoning, if he did do something wrong, how would you ever know?

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204452#Comment_122204452

Successful businessman? Debatable. Well known liar? Most definitely.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204439#Comment_122204439

It's been nearly a decade. Would you not give the conspiracy stuff a bit of a rest?

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204439#Comment_122204439

The more you talk about trump and his woes, the more you expose your ignorance.

The jury were selected by both legal teams. It's called "Voir dire". Look it up.

The jury heard all the evidence. Trump had the best possible legal team. The Judge was more than patient. The trial was fair. Trump could have taken the stand. He didn't. He could have called other witnesses. He didn't. He could have avoided stormy giving evidence by accepting that he had a 180 second fumble but his ****ing pride wouldn't let him.

But oh no. It's everyone's fault but his.

Maybe someday that penny will drop.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204452#Comment_122204452

Being a 'successful businessman' makes you honest? That's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.

Agent Coulson

Fair play to the 12 men and women brave and true!

Ahwell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204432#Comment_122204432

I remember who was laughing last in the midterms, that post of yours on election night was a beauty.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204372#Comment_122204372

yup, Biden is involved with this…yup, makes sense.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204469#Comment_122204469

American heroes.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204439#Comment_122204439

You do realise that trumps legal team picked some of the jury, so were they in on this great conspiracy too?

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204466#Comment_122204466

I will never understand how some people will go to such lengths to blame literally ANYTHING rather than admit that Trump may have done something wrong. They'll twist themselves into such a knot defending the guy that they become totally oblivious to fact and reason. And this is Donald Trump we're talking about, a lifetime liar and conman. It really would make you lose faith in the intelligence levels of the human race.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204452#Comment_122204452

What made them look stupid on the world stage was electing that man who is totally unfit for any political office as well as being a complete moral degenerate.

valoren

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204452#Comment_122204452

Successful businessman. Six bankruptcies. Successful businessman. 🙄

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204372#Comment_122204372

Someone should investigate dem Bidens, I'm sure they'll find something.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204406#Comment_122204406

Hold on a second there. You pointed me in the direction of these posts but here you yourself dismisses the idea of digging them out. Its not about appeasing me. Its about you backing up your claims. You cant be bothered to do do. Says it all about the strength of your claims.

You claimed Trump didnt get a fair trial. Implying the conduct of the trial and the jury verdict was unfair.

Your old posts cannot speak to that. The trial hasnt been running that long. So your claims dont stand to any scrutiny.

Trump's trial was conducted as per due process, he was entitled to mount a defence, free to testify in his defence - at end of day, he was convicted on all counts by a jury.

And out comes the victim card - nope. At all times I have addressed the content of your posts. If you infer things from that about that content, thats on you.

Your claims not to want Trump to be President ring hollow and cannot be reconciled with your far more numerous posts which try to find any excuse to defend him no matter the charge - stealing the election, sexual assault rape and defamation, and now campaign fraud.

Unprompted criticisms of Trump... zero.

Unprompted backing of actions to stop Trump becoming President... zero.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204452#Comment_122204452

You can **** right off with the misogyny there. Trump has a reputation that involves bankruptcies, not paying bills, dragging anything and everything to court, defrauding his own charity, rape and several cases pending. I'm sure more will follow when he dies and he can't go after anyone. The woman in question makes naughty movies for adults.

tohaltuwi

this man could set fire to the world

ancapailldorcha

Almost worth all this for the Lincoln Project's videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwcjDO6JCVQ