Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208730#Comment_122208730

Mainly centrists, I believe.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208711#Comment_122208711

Only post I’ve ever seen from you revolves around being pro trump.

Totally impartial.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208619#Comment_122208619

Are we really at the point of the discussion where you're actively going full Matlock? His lawyers were a part of the jury selection process, he has the money to get a far better legal team than most. So this ideal jury speculation is cringe.

Roald Dahl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208686#Comment_122208686

Some nice quotes on Twitter:

I'm really sorry for you dude, that's sad. But Trump wouldn't consider you important enough to even be the guy he shoots on 5th Avenue.

This fellow must indeed have had a hard life if he feels he was helped in some way by Trump. I wonder what it is that Trump would have done for him?

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208806#Comment_122208806

Trump was involved according to his lawyers

https://www.mediaite.com/crime/trumps-lawyer-says-ex-president-was-very-much-involved-in-picking-the-jury-that-convicted-him/

But aside from before and since this latest verdict producing more delusional rants and examples of stupidity regarding gag orders etc, they did their job given he most likely wasn't going to pay them any way.

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208806#Comment_122208806

I felt that the venue of the trial and the jury pool counted against Trump.

Had he been able to hold the trial elsewhere he would have had a better chance of a hung jury(never an acquital,surely)

Still ,the defense were probably happy (I am guessing) that they had enough jurors that they had OK'd to hope for a holdout or two.

That was my expectation.

I was very surprised/relieved by the unanimous verdict.

Seems like the appeal can't happen before the election and that any credible appeal would need to be on points of law.

It would be interesting to be Melania's lawyer at the moment and to know whether she is getting his diapers in a twist.

Well she made her bed and Trump and co slept in it.

amandstu

Should all prospective members of Trump's next government be asked whether they would approve of serving in an administration that changed the 2 term presidential ceiling?

If Trump gets in will he ever leave "office"?

amandstu

He was asked by Caitlin Collins last night if he was getting paid.

Seemed to suggest there was no problem -if we can believe that.

Flaneur OBrien

ooooof.

Where's the "This is only going to strengthen Trump" posters?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/one-10-republicans-less-likely-vote-trump-after-guilty-verdict-reutersipsos-poll-2024-05-31/

(Of course, all polls should be taken with a pinch of salt these days)

Overheal

more bitter lemons to swallow for MAGA

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/dow-gains-nearly-600-points-after-fox-business-guest-predicted-crash-after-trump-conviction/

threeball

The sad reality is, I cant see it hurting the prick. Trump is like the human incarnation of Russia, he has zero respect for anyone but himself, he spends all his time contemplating how to shít on others, he likes flashing the bling but the reality behind the scenes is that it's all a bit of a dumpster fire, and no matter how many times or how badly he fcuks up he manages to plod along as normal with little to no real consequence.

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208918#Comment_122208918

Yes,it was said when he got that huge fine fairly recently that his persona of an extremely wealthy man had been shattered and this would supposedly drive away some of his adoring supporters.

We laughed when he couldn't find the collateral but his supporters didn't move away...

To my mind (one of ) the big things is the war in Gaza.

The supporters of Palestine seem to be threatening(or just refusing) the Democrats /Biden with a withholding of support so long as it goes on.

If it gets resolved to any degree then that bloc may well return to its normal voting pattern and Trump's support will correspondingly drop whether or not this case has the impact it was supposed to have but that we all fear it will not since we have seen this so many times before.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208935#Comment_122208935

What's weird is people who seem to be thinking "OK, he got away with bragging about sexual assault, slagging off a POW, refusing to unequivocally condemn the far right at Charlottesville, riling up an angry mob on a lie to attack the Capitol and being found civilly liable for sexual assault, among many other things, but this... this conviction will sink him... "

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208963#Comment_122208963

Well , a good many Republican have said that if he had a felony conviction they would not vote for him.

The proof is in the pudding.

I am glad the case was heard.

I hope Trump does not get in and actually weaponize the justice system against his opponents(and his supporters,likely)

It only needs a little drop in his support (and maybe some finessing of the sutiation in Israel and Gaza) for Trump to be sent to the naughty step for good

Overheal

UK did a simulation of a 2nd Trump term - NATO effectively disbands and the US becomes a 3rd world nation after it loses its ability to force project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8MmrprnGcw

Hoop66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122207464#Comment_122207464

”unscripted monologue”

Was this the point you sipped your victory gin and realised, as the tear rolled down your cheek?

ghostfacekilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208854#Comment_122208854

She allegedly re-negotiated her pre-nuptial for the third time recently. Reading Michael Wolff's book, I was surprised to learn that Melania lived with her parents in a house in Maryland during his presidency whilst everyone assumed she was living in the WH, after she eventually left NY.

kowloon

https://i.imgur.com/hohWQSl.jpeg

A lot of this going around.

lumphammer2

Donald Trump deserves to be behind bars for something … anything … he is ….

A murderer …. Qasem Soleimani 2020 …..

A wannabe terrorist leader …. 6th January 2021 ….

A liar …. including perjury …. multiple times …..

A warmonger …. Iran 2018-2020 …. until Covid stopped him ….

a pervert …. Stormy Daniels and many more …..

A conman …. donate to this donate to that and the sheeple who follow him gladly do so !! …

A wannabe dictator …. maybe without the brains to pull it off !! ….

As well as these serious traits …. he is just plain nasty ….. insults everyone …. a covidiot …. bleach anyone!! .. nothing positive to offer ….

Lock him up …. it is unfair if he gets pref treatment …. others guilty of half that would do time …. plus many of those he fooled into acting on his behalf like Michael Cohen did their time …. it is beyond time to see Trump do some serious jail time ….

bog master

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208619#Comment_122208619

A jury of blue collar non college educated jurors would not be a jury of his peers!

TinyMuffin

…..

everlast75

https://twitter.com/TomDreisbach/status/1796634041749271001

Who was the poster that cited this piece of garbage when alleging 2020 was rigged?

everlast75

Lol

He's back to Hillary's emails!!!

https://twitter.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1796568110574780848

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209130#Comment_122209130

Does he know what year it is?

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208661#Comment_122208661

None of this says he didn't do it..... and it is full of whataboutery.

So yes, it's very like your posts.

FishOnABike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209130#Comment_122209130

I hope he has solid evidence for all of the above. That's an awful lot of potential defamation cases against him. Maybe he just likes giving away money.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208619#Comment_122208619

"I love the poorly educated"

Donald J. Trump

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209130#Comment_122209130

This is what 'freedom of speech' gets you.

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209166#Comment_122209166

I have noticed there are few if any more denials from the Republican side. They have moved onto campaign financing laws should be minor enough to ignore.

gneel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122207993#Comment_122207993

I never noticed how much Trump has declined in terms of his speaking ability

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209470#Comment_122209470

Yep it's what I was referring to early, he has declined a lot.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208874#Comment_122208874

I can imagine it being a requirement to work in a Trump cabinet that you support the removal of the two-term limit and, while we're at it, that they take an oath not to the USA but to Trump himself.

everlast75

Are there any independent verifications of this claim, or is it just a negligent regurgitation of lie?

Fathom

Delete

ToweringPerformance

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209560#Comment_122209560

If it's being reported by major news outlets it will have fact checked i'd say.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122204439#Comment_122204439

How do you know what you know? What legal evidence do you have that would be admissible as evidence in Trump’s forthcoming appeal of his criminal guilty verdict with 34 counts? Or is this just your unsubstantiated personal opinion that would not be admissible in court, and may be classified as hearsay and of no value in Trump’s appeal?

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209581#Comment_122209581

I admire your optimism!

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209628#Comment_122209628

Let me save you some time. Don't engage. Pretend like they're not there.

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209540#Comment_122209540

Yep. And probably a proviso that they'll support Don Jr as the successor with no need for an election.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122208661#Comment_122208661

Yet again zero attempt to explain what was unfair about the trial. Trump was found guilty by a jury in court, where he could mount a defence, if the charges were nonsense. But he was guilty by a jury, thereby disproving your entire line of argument.

Zero attempt to actually defend Trump of the charges because you know you can't.

So again, there's no real arguments or defences here. Just whataboutery and arguing over legal technicalities. All of which his legal team were free to challenge in court and make the case to the jury. Dancing around Trump's actual conduct, refusing to acknowledge it and how he should be held to account for it.

It's up there with Trump isn't a rapist so he's ok, while ignoring what the judge adjudicated, while ignoring that he was found liable for sexual assault by the jury, while ignoring what he was found liable for would be rape in Ireland and most jurisdictions in the US.

Desperation level excuses.

Trump was guilty of the acts he was charged with. Yes? Simple yes or no answer. A self declared 'centrist' who doesn't want Trump to be elected should have no issue answering such a question. If you don't answer, we can draw our own conclusions about your posts.

Do you think a political candidate should suffer no consequences for breaching finance laws to pay hush money to someone he had an affair with?

Always some excuse must be found by you to defend Trump. We never see any unprompted posts criticising Trump for his conduct. We never see any explanation of what consequences Trump should face for this conduct, despite you claiming you don't want him to be President.

We never seen the same excuses rolled out for Democrats. You aren't fooling anyone with this charade.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209678#Comment_122209678

Yes, although I have a hunch that Donald regards his youngest son, Barron, as his true successor, since he has the towering physical stature, the haughty sneer and he's even copped a similar hairstyle, whereas his other sons are greasy-haired sycophants with no chins and pronounced overbites. Sure, he's only 18, but if Trump could get the term limit removed, would it be so far fetched to think he might ask for the age barrier to be reconsidered, also?

Fathom

Trump’s lead defense of hush money Todd Blanche doesn’t appear to be an experienced appellate attorney (see wiki), which Trump needs if he is going to mount an appeal that may have legal merit. With all the millions of donor’s money that Trump has used and continues to get to defend himself across multiple civil and criminal cases in recent years, you would think he would hire the brightest and best appellate attorneys to lead and develop his appeal to a higher NY appellate court up to the US Supreme Court?

I’m not qualified to make legal opinions, but upon anecdotal reflection on the 3 recent major civil cases Trump has lost for a half billion USD, and now this 34 count criminal conviction, it makes me wonder if Trump was hiring the brightest and the best attorneys to defend him? It does not appear that Trump had a “Dream Team” like OJ did for any of these 4 Trump cases.

Perhaps the brightest and the best legal firms have turned Trump down for various reasons? Do these top firms know things about Trump that may incline them to refuse him, regardless of the millions of donors money he has?

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209732#Comment_122209732

Trump doesn't pay his bills, and he doesn't take direction from his lawyers when they are giving good advice, as we have seen, he just won't keep his mouth shut. Continually engaging in contempt of court.

The best and brightest law firms know not to touch him with a barge pole.

Trump is notorious for leaving a trail of unpaid bills wherever he goes. Hundreds of people have accused him of failing to pay them for services, ranging from a glass company in New Jersey to workers at his resorts, real estate brokers, and even law firms who represented him in suits for unpaid bills.

https://newrepublic.com/post/173722/donald-trump-long-long-history-not-picking-check

combat14

looks like the crooked democrat judge is going to jail president trump wont stop him from being relected may even help his cause

Patrick2010

Mike Johnson wants the Supreme Court to overturn the verdict

My statement on President Trump trial verdict:

Today is a shameful day in American history. Democrats cheered as they convicted the leader of the opposing party on ridiculous charges, predicated on the testimony of a disbarred, convicted felon. This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one.

The weaponization of our justice system has been a hallmark of the Biden Administration, and the decision today is further evidence that Democrats will stop at nothing to silence dissent and crush their political opponents.  

The American people see this as lawfare, and they know it is wrong—and dangerous. President Trump will rightfully appeal this absurd verdict—and he WILL WIN!

We have established that the judge is corrupt, highly unethical and biased in favour of the democrats. He has a history trying to take Trump out. I wonder who got this judge assigned to the case?! And a judge can have a huge influence over the jurors in what evidence they accept or ignore, and what laws should apply. This was a witch-hunt and the outcome was known from the start. They will lock up Trump and give him some food that will induce sudden death syndrome or a heart attack, just like what happened to Navalny in a Russian prison system. No doubt Putin wanted to get rid of him before election day.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209753#Comment_122209753

.…

bucketybuck

Mad that Trumps own wife won't even support him and you still get people making themselves look stupid online trying to defend a rapist.

No sign of Ivanka either. I guess even her thick skin shudders at the thought that her father forced himself on a porn star because she looked like Ivanka.

Imagine being at family events and knowing your father is perving over you. I almost feel sorry for her.

Rawr

Did all the MAGA cultists finish lunch the same time or something?

We’re going to get a lot of «Crooked Democrat» this, and «Crooked Democrat» that for the forseeable aren’t we?

It’s a rather tiresom bit of projection from a group of people who would have no trouble at all with filling the justice system with Trump loyalists who would likely criminalise other political parties in a heartbeat. I can easily imagine a whole host of courts headed with the MAGA equivilent of Roland Freisler, handing down fury-driven sentences to those who dare disagree at all with The Party, or it’s Dear Leader.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209744#Comment_122209744

Got a source for that or is this just like Clinton going to jail?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122209753#Comment_122209753

No, you've pushed a conspiracy theory that the judge is corrupt and unethical. Ironically enough Trump has been found in a court of law to be corrupt and unethical.