Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP

NSAman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312686#Comment_122312686

Biden should be in a nursing home. The man is not mentally well.

Trump was full of it as ever.

If anything positive comes from this, it is the fact that Biden is incapable of being president and Dems will have to change candidate to win. If this was later, Trump would have been a shoe-in. Dems now have to force/coerce Biden to retire and select a new candidate.

it’s obvious to everyone that Biden cannot run again. A vote for Biden will be a vote for a vice president, he won;t last another 4 years.

Trump looked and spoke younger. BUT he dodged questions and didn’t show any future policy indications. He was negative instead of positive. That will go against him.

Can’t wait to see how the press conference in the white house goes tomorrow. Corrine must be **** herself about what lies she can peddle to pass up this Biden disaster.

cj maxx

I think that’s why Kamala is vp . She covers all the bases . Non white , part Asian and a woman . She’ll be the first woman president ever by winning an election or inheriting when Joe retires . ABt

ceadaoin.

Kamala can't win an election. She's a joke. I mean, if she's planning on stepping up then she'd better start doing something... anything? Because up until now she's barely been seen, let alone done anything useful. They're going to have to find someone else. But who?

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312714#Comment_122312714

I think the Democrats are in serious trouble, the progressive wing will drive away swing voters but at the same time the party don't want to piss them off.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312686#Comment_122312686

I did watch the debate.

It was weird in so kindes of way

Detritus70

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312714#Comment_122312714

So far this has been said about every vice president ever. I'm guessing the VP is always in the shadows and I'd guess they're not supposed to outshine the Pres.

If she ran, the same disingenuous racists will use their Greatest Hits collection of arguments, saying it shouldn't be about color and by that saying "she's only up because she's from a minority!", whilst desperately scraping together anything they can find on her and throwing in as many personal slurs as they can.

So it would be a remix of the Birther bullsh1t and that flood of sewage directed at Hillary Clinton. She's still tarnished from that through no fault of her own.

If Trump wins than we know that to succeed in US politics you just have to start screaming lies and bullsh1t louder, faster, longer than the others.

pureza

The Democrats are doomed.

The Russian Predident will be happy as he's about to be handed Ukraine

Their embassy in Orwell road may get an industrial printing press for all the Ukranians here that will need new passports for their return home to the Soviet union.

On the plus side,we'll save money in the medium term as some of our larger embassies in Eastern Europe will close and it's unlikely Moscow might allow us to open consulates in the new enlarged soviet union.

cj maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312763#Comment_122312763

there was a bit of discussion from better reporters . Basically that Biden is really old and Trump isn’t far behind .

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312691#Comment_122312691

Peter Doocy will be rubbing his hands together at the thought of her having to put a positive spin on that Biden performance

brickster69

Look at the CNN poll lads. Looks like a few pairs of rose tainted glasses have been finally put in the bin.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1806548403762983156

everlast75

Why the hell wasn't he like this in the debate?

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1806527484982112420

brickster69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312880#Comment_122312880

Why are you asking the question when you know the answer ?

Pa ElGrande

Without having to watch the show, it sounds like the democratic party supporters are in panic and the tribes that make up that party are splitting. The California tribe are making a pitch for Mr. Newsom, another faction has Robert Kennedy jr which makes a difference in what is shaping up to be a low turnout election, where neither candidate has much appeal. They will replace president Biden in August at the convention.

Christy42

Unfortunate by the sounds of it. Like a certain justice not retiring at an appropriate moment timing and age may hurt the US people. Obviously you could ask the Republicans to govern with a sense of decency but that is like setting all prisoners loose and asking them to behave.

The one good thing that came out of a Trump's election last time is it seemed to delay the rise of the right in Europe. He was easy pickings for centrist politicians to get easy PR and the more senile version of Trump is unlikely to cause much issues for the likes of Starmer when they want to get props from a left wing base back home.

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312964#Comment_122312964

that would be undemocratic , joe is there to save democracy , his words I think.

tohaltuwi

May as well turn the White House into a care home ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ although all Trump looks as if needs is is some soap suds up his rear

PropJoe10

I think Biden probably feels a sense of duty to do a second term but he should only ever have been a one-term president. The last 4 years should've been used to pick out a strong successor to hand the baton over to. This has played right into Trump's hands, no doubt about that.

scottser

Here's hoping they both keel over and die before November.

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1806538824534639049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1806538824534639049%7Ctwgr%5E718be223cfc475a569df6940b82ceacd3cea7e1d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2Flive%2F2024%2Fjun%2F27%2Fpresidential-debate-trump-biden-updates

combat14

who is biden's VP (if the democrats let him run in august) because they will rapidly be the president if biden beats trump in november ....

valoren

Definitely a game changer. Bidens political legacy is ousting Trump from office. That is now at risk if he is bent on running again. His after talk about beating Trump now means he has to accept that his part in that is to now step down and endorse someone else in August. Anyone else and the probability of beating the alley cat increases. Frame it as being for the good of the country. If he runs and Trump wins then the Democrats will only have themselves to blame. It's not as if Bidens energy hasn't been known. Surely machinations would be happening about moving on the possibility of implementing a replacement. It's a country that put men on the moon with a hard deadline. They now have another deadline in August to find a replacement. Have at it.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122313275#Comment_122313275

Kamala Harris. Nothing's changed there.

brickster69

Trumps new election advert is already made

https://twitter.com/EL4USA/status/1806619503947653185

combat14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122313365#Comment_122313365

looks like biden made the advert for him

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122313365#Comment_122313365

I know no nicknames should be used on this forum, but, it's very vindicating as a trump fan and someone who finds biden ridiculous, to see joe live up to his nicknames, on CNN of all places, and hand trump a second term.

The only way this would have been better would be if someone like Rachel Maddow was conducting the debate.

On a logical note, for the DNC I can't see a way out of this. Biden is practically unelectable now. They can't nominate someone else as Biden won all their primaries.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314014#Comment_122314014

Biden's age is a concern but … let's not forget the other guy is a crook and a rapist, who tried to steal the election. This is what you are a fan of?

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314060#Comment_122314060

Some see it as a negative. Some can overlook it and I suspect many that overlook it see it as a positive. Many are just willing to accept everything and anything to bully one particular group.

In any case either way this goes the US gets the eldest president it ever has. I see reports Russia sees Trump as the Gorbachev for the US and the end of that era. In China many favoured Trump for a weak US.

If Trump wins I suspect many an. Maybe Biden is too old but either he or his handlers have done a good job over the last 4 years. The party of law and order will accept anything hing for a felon. The evangelicals will be happy for a rapist adulterer over someone who actually follows religious laws though that 2nd one is certainly not new as we know in Ireland.

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122313707#Comment_122313707

Well, if Biden is so hopeless, surely the GOP should be persuading him to keep on running. The over-reaction here is something else.

Sure, it was a bad night for Biden, but anyone who isn't in favour of the Orange Criminal should some up with some realistic and constructive alternative.

Larbre34

Last night's debate is the best thing that could have happened the Dems.

There is now no doubt. No ifs, ands or buts. No arguments about unfavourable editing, or context.

It is unavoidable. Unarguable. Biden has to be removed as the Democratic nominee for President in the November general election.

Any Democrat with any influence at all who isn't making that their absolute priority today, is not worthy of the name.

I'd half expect to see a fleet of black SUVs arriving at the West Wing before the end of the day containing Barack Obama, the Clintons, Al Gore, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Hakeem Jeffries, to insist to Biden that he go.

And Kamala Harris and Jill Biden should be right behind them.

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314156#Comment_122314156

Sure, it was a bad night for Biden, but anyone who isn't in favour of the Orange Criminal should some up with some realistic and constructive alternative.

Bad night is being charitable, last night was game over for US president Biden and his handlers and all know it, except maybe the US president himself. Team Trump has already built the narrative that the prosecutions are part of a Democrat led campaign and remains on course to win even if sitting in a jail cell.

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314081#Comment_122314081

not that easy

@JonathanTurleyThere is a great deal of discussion about the 25th amendment after the chilling moments in last night's debate with President Biden. As I have previously written, the amendment was written primarily with physical disabilities in mind. It is far more difficult with mental decline.

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314219#Comment_122314219

It's application is the threat and public spectacle. Biden's own family will not let him go through that. The graceful exit is to retire, swear in the vice president Kamala Harris to office and let the Democratic party sort their own issues.

AllForIt

It was quite something to observe the CNN crew in a total state of panic immediately after the debate concluded last night. No attempt to even play it down. Even I didn't thing he was that bad but I suppose that's because I've grown accustomed to him stuttering.

I think it's a pity that Biden's frailty will be enough to swing it for Trump. It would have been much more fun to watch the contest unfold with that not in the equation.

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314290#Comment_122314290

that wont work either, either Biden is as sharp as a tack behind closed doors or they have lied (on record)

Rosahane

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314014#Comment_122314014

For the Democrats being unelectable isn't an insurmountable problem. Dropboxes are their solution🤣

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312880#Comment_122312880

He is reading it off a Tele prompter.

everlast75

Womp womp

https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1806759318479306899

everlast75

A fact check (albeit far too late) on the debate…

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1806537982176121191

Kermit.de.frog

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silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314060#Comment_122314060

If he wins he will also be the oldest elected president, and given some of his nonsense rambling he's not the high water mark for cognitive abilities. It was like listening to Jay from The Inbetweeners at one point.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122314855#Comment_122314855

Tis yourself, Dinesh.

Danzy

The delegates can cast a vote for another if Biden steps down, seems funding might be an issue as money had gone to the Biden campaign. Not someone else.

That won't be a problem though, Wall St and Big tech will plow money in to the replacement.

It's doable but Biden tied together a lot of the disparate wings of the Democratic party, its now achingly upper middle class activist,leadership and reps, what is left of its blue collar support, old African Americans and the remaining Hispanic part.

Hard for the next one to do that.

cj maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122312834#Comment_122312834

I’d love to know the real Golden Shower story in a Moscow hotel 😷😷

It was an outlandish story to come from no-where

Maxface

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122315751#Comment_122315751

At this stage, why not just go out and lie. Just straight out lie. Just lie about everything about Trump. Have the other crowd start having to call out lies. Say that one of Trumps children is having a sex change, Melania had 3 abortions last year and all three were after they were born. Trump has dug up his ex-wife and was seen driving her around the golf course, a la, weekend at Bernie's. Trump has no toes as they have rotted away and it is contagious. Trump plans to put all children from age 9 to work in oil farms and coal tunnels. He is also raising the age of consent up to 14 in Southern States. Stuff like that, and keep it going.

brickster69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122315751#Comment_122315751

You missed half of it.

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1806539516519530734

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122317878#Comment_122317878

Trump's a convicted felon, and you're dumping rubbish about 'Crooked' Joe.

So obviously fake news. Repeat the lie often enough eh?

nachouser

I remember noting back in the middle of May that there was no upside for Biden agreeing to a debate with Trump. And here we are. If they don't get Newsom involved, they're fupped for 2024.

Detritus70

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122317878#Comment_122317878

Aand I don't have to read or watch anything after "Crooked Joe", because it's horseh1t.

Don't even try to claim otherwise.

briany

MSNBC are trying to spin away from the debate debacle with Lawrence O'Donnell saying it was fine because the ratings for the debate were so low that hardly anyone saw it, so it's not that big a deal.

A pathetically weak attempt to downplay the seriousness of Biden's decline, and also comes off as incredibly out of touch with the modern world whereby clips of Biden looking frail and confused will be lighting up Tiktok and Twitter for weeks to come, if not months. Everybody may not have seen the whole debate, but many will have seen Biden struggling to finish points, looking out of it and missing open goals on the ridiculous lies which Trump tells.

Igotadose

SCOTUS immunity ruling Monday. This ought to be interesting, in likely a bad way.

Best to expect the worst from this reprehensible SCOTUS. They're making up rulings as they go along, precedent doesn't matter, rule of law doesn't matter, just what the Federalist society and MAGA wan.t

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122323264#Comment_122323264

Absolutely. After the comical ruling about bribes gratuities now being legal, I won't be surprised about anything from them.