Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122481345#Comment_122481345

Northam's comments were cheapfaked iirc., stripped of context and cut down etc.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-ralph-northam-virginia-abortion-952598071326

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/politics/ralph-northam-third-trimester-abortion/index.html

“[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that’s nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. “The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

"the infant" in this context was a nonviable fetus, ie. a fetus that has a critically low or zero chance of survival, even coding ie. in need of resuscitation. Makes more sense than the illusory truth the right gaslighted which boiled down to the talking point of 'setting aside the baby' like he was King Solomon chopping a healthy baby in half or not.

Tran completely ate **** on her commentary and owned up to her flub - has won 2 re-elections since

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/virginia-lawmaker-kathy-tran-says-she-misspoke-on-abortion-bill-after-getting-death-threats-1986465

Glenn Youngkin defeated Northam.

aloyisious

Apparently the issue of the debates is sorted. Trump said that he has “agreed” to debates hosted by Fox News on September 4, ABC on September 10, and NBC on September 25. “We have spoken to the heads of the network, and it's all been confirmed, other than some fairly minor details,” he said.

I cant help supposing that the "some fairly minor details" might well an be an agreement between him and Harris on dates, TV channels, ground rules and the hosts.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122481693#Comment_122481693

He doesn't debate her - he looks weak

He does debate her - he looks bananas.

Sophie's choice.

VinLieger

He will show up for the fox aka "safe space" debate and skip the others.

valoren

Harris could say that it's better for her to debate him before mid September because if she doesn't do it by then Trump might actually be locked up and unavailable to debate with her.

Lewis_Benson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122481993#Comment_122481993

One can only hope....

everlast75

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1821730651977945228

Lawrence delivers some harsh truths.…

Leroy42

That press conference was a complete disaster.

It only solidified that stark difference between the DNC ticket and Trump.

Very telling that Vance wasn't involved. This wasn't anything other than a Trump whingefest.

Whatever plan the Trump campaign had that thought this was going to be a good idea certainly didn't work.

I thought one of the most cringing points was when he was asked why he hadn't been out campaigning and his reply was he was busy making videos!

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482643#Comment_122482643

I've read suggestions online that this was a solo run by Trump - It was noted that none of his campaign team appeared to be there and little things like the lack of any "Trump/Vance 2024" branding around the place etc.

I suspect it was just Trump sitting alone in Mar-a-Lago seeing all the positive press about Harris and he got angry and announced a Presser with zero preparation.

And as Lawrence O'Donnell noted in the clip posted above , once again the US Media put clicks ahead of journalistic integrity and facilitated an angry old mans rant.

aloyisious

I've re-learned a truth from Lawrence O'Donnell and that a response from Trump is not necessarily an answer to the question; where Trump is concerned, it's an evasion and more probably a lie into the bargain. Trump got what he wanted. Hopefully the next time trump calls a news conference and asks for specific journalists only, the newsdesk editor says "no".

eightieschewbaccy

Also Trump saying Vance is doing great gave me a vibe that he'll keep him. He doesn't want to but he needs to.

everlast75

I saw that clip by Lawrence to be a call to his fellow journalists to stop running after Trump and have some balls to ask hard questions and follow ups. I remember Trump's tenure, and towards the end, you saw some (a small few) journalists being cut off by Trump and other journalists not letting the issue go. That's the way to handle him. Swat away his stock answer and drill down. It doesn't matter if he calls you rude. Wear it like a badge of honour and hit him again with the question.

FFS - this is a chance to make a name for yourself (in a good way). Be the person who asked Trump one of those questions above. Be the person who called him on the BS and asked the difficult follow up.

everlast75

I think the reason why the media did run when he called this time was they thought there was a very small chance he had a major announcement to make and didn't want to miss it. I can understand that. But why not cut away when it became clear it was the usual grievances and utter nonsense, i.e. business as usual.

The only upside to this presser is that the more people hear from Trump, the more they remember why they dislike him.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482830#Comment_122482830

They won't because he generates traffic and "engagement" so they'll continue to allow him to spout endless b*ollocks unchecked in real time because it's good for business.

Horrible for the country , but good for business so that's what they'll keep doing.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482867#Comment_122482867

The problem is that they won't see the majority of this.

There will be carefully curated 5/10/15 second clips where he is "sort of" making a point that will be pushed out across Social media and that's all his supporters will see.

They won't see that 55 minutes plus of the 60 minute event was nonsenical horsesh!t.

Every single verbal slip by Biden was torn asunder in the media as evidence of his "decline" yet no one is doing that for Trump.

He is quite literally incapable for completing a coherent sentence without losing his train of thought , glitching or wandering off on a bizarre tangent.

Why aren't they attacking him the same way they attacked Biden??

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482920#Comment_122482920

I had the horrible thought that the Eds were covering all bases on the "what if" basis. White House journalists accreditation passes. etc. horrible as it might seem….

No one seems to want the job of the child who points out the emperor is wearing no clothes.

everlast75

Jfc...

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1821737853845426366

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483510#Comment_122483510

One of the replies to that tweet has a quote from comedian Michelle Wolf at the Press association dinner a few years ago that sums this up perfectly

everlast75

Some nice trolling...

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2024/08/08/donald-trump-kamala-harris-crowd-sizes

"The Harris campaign, just over two weeks old, quickly seized on Trump’s major vulnerability — his fragile ego. They are exploiting it to mess with him and call him out.

The Harris team opened an account on Truth Social — the social media platform owned by Trump — and posted side-by-side pictures of Trump and Harris crowds at the same venues just to taunt him. The pictures showed turnout about the same."

aloyisious

It seems the Sept 10 debate on ABC is going ahead by agreement of both campaigns so that is one certainty.

I don't know how the Secret Service and ABC are going to do the vetting of the invited audience, assuming there will be some.

The size of the turnout at Harris's rallies [as reported by the media, and the attention it is paying to her] is getting under Trump's skin so he will need to be mollified if people want him to attend the debate with Harris, whatever about him showing some restraint or decorum to her and the debate-hosts.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484365#Comment_122484365

Mollify him my hole.

I wouldn't give him an inch.

If he won't debate because he isn't allowed to lie and riff off the crowd , then let him refuse to debate.

He can't use the "I don't need to debate I'm leading" guff anymore , so let him look bad.

Last week he was 30/40 minutes late to the NABJ event because he was backstage pitching a fit that they were going to fact check him live and he didn't want that.

He of course lied and said it was because they were having Audio equipment issues.

But make him squirm , make him look every inch the fragile egotistical fool that he is.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484444#Comment_122484444

Harris should just set up a factchecking website and tell people during the debate, eg. Nope that’s a lie go to trumpsafatliar dot com and see for yourself and just live fact check him there

everlast75

Bad news for Trump...

https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1821936003529015653

Rogan and Pool have said they are voting for RJK, which will draw support from Trump, not Harris.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484570#Comment_122484570

A lot depends on whether RJK stays in the race… I'm thinking if Trump is losing ground more likely RJK will stay in the race, as any promise of an administration job will be worthless. Seems like he is taking 3-5 percentage points off Trump in some states.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484570#Comment_122484570

Wonder if they will experience the same backlash shittenhouse received and have to backtrack

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484580#Comment_122484580

At this stage he's going to be on the ballot in a number of states regardless.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484570#Comment_122484570

Does Senor Fuentes think RFK will have a non-catastrophic victory?

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484599#Comment_122484599

Rogan is probably just saying it to play up to his non-partisan nonsense gimmick.

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484599#Comment_122484599

Rogan won't care anyway he will sit back and smoke a cigar lighting it with hundred dollar bills from is Spotify deal.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484652#Comment_122484652

Well if anyone believes that gimmick would believe anything, but then again it would explain why they listen to him in the first place.

Agent Coulson

Harris now ahead of him in the polls of the battleground States.

The rambling of a weird old man are turning the voters off.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484654#Comment_122484654

Is that deal related to audience levels?

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484717#Comment_122484717

I doubt anyone but a handful of people in Spotify and Rogans camp know. However he signed a new $250m deal earlier this year after his $200m 4 year deal with them expired. He has according to Spotify 14.5 followers on there platform. How many of them pay is another thing.

Safe to say he is pulling in close to $1m week for his podcast.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484747#Comment_122484747

The highest paid podacster with a massive audience, definitely not mainstream.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484570#Comment_122484570

Now if X would only follow and unfund Trump.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484599#Comment_122484599

....

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1821945965151957403

🙄

everlast75

Someone doesn't like to be dumped...

silliussoddius

Want to do a pool on how long it takes for Joe to bend over? I go two days.

accensi0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485362#Comment_122485362

I'll genuinely bet you €1000 that doesn't happen if you're serious?

silliussoddius

Hand on heart I'm not willing to put money on what I typed, hyperbola aside I think he will row back at some point. Firstly I don't think RFK will get any traction to be anything beyond a Screaming Lord Sutch, secondly Rogan has cultivated a significant Trumpish type crowd and he won't want to alienate them.

If this doesn't pan out, please feel free to call me out on it and I will eat crow.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485167#Comment_122485167

Now if I could as easily predict the lotto numbers that would be something.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485388#Comment_122485388

You've lost your money…

He's already done it…Barely lasted a few hours

Rogan was joined by right-wing podcaster Tim Pool, who initially posted on X that he was supporting Kennedy too. Later, though, both Rogan and Pool backtracked, with Pool claiming that he was trolling, and Rogan later claiming that his words weren’t an endorsement. But that was too late for Kennedy himself, who posted messages of appreciation to both Rogan and Pool.

ghostfacekilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485388#Comment_122485388

The spineless meth-for-brains is already backtracking. Little does he realise that the nonsense he and his guests spout is only found interesting to halfwits who thinks Rapey McFraudsalot is a good choice to be the leader of the free world.

accensi0n

Wait, so did Rogan actually endorse him or not?

Is there a video or a post where Rogan says he's endorsing Kennedy or planning to vote for him?

Or was it just someone interpreting something he said as an endorsement?

PsychoPete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485498#Comment_122485498

I don't know if you'd call it a good endorsement but Rogan said "yeah I'm a fan, he's the only one that makes sense to me he's the only one that doesn't attack people. He attacks actions and ideas but he's much more reasonable and intelligent. I mean, the guy was an environmental attorney and cleaned up the east river. He's a legitimate guy. You know, before anyone started calling him an anti vaxxer which I thought he was too, I thought he was just a nut this like conspiracy theorist nut until I read his book "the real Anthony Fauci" then started on the whole pharmaceutical industry.

Supposedly he's now suing msnbc after they edited a video together claiming he was talking about Harris but he was actually talking about Tulsi Gabbard

accensi0n

For example. Brand and Pool literally said: I'm endorsing you / I'm voting for you..

odyssey06

Confirmation needed on which wingnut celeb is endorsing which wingnut candidate.

I guess these trolls like Rogan, Brand, Poll dont have an off switch from the trolling.

silliussoddius

So nice of Brand to take some time out with his praying sessions with Alex Jones and let his faith guide him to endorse the serial adulterer.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485710#Comment_122485710

Im shocked - shocked - Brand could consider anyone other than rapist in chief Trump for his endorsement.

What a hypocrite.

Flaneur OBrien

You get the sense that the American right wing mitched a few too many days off school, don't you?