Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402346#Comment_122402346

Feel free to report my posts if you think i am gaslighting anyone…

The Nazis flooded corporations with quotas, academia, media and culture with their ideology did they not, if anything, Trump is up against academic institutes, cultural entities, media and major corporations who all engage in DEI/ESG policies….including the Secret Service whose almost comical incompetence almost cost him his life just last Saturday!!!

And Trump has one the nomination 3 times now, in each case, there isn't a hint of dishonesty in the process.

In the same 3 Democratic nomination processes there's a stink!!!! But let me guess, there's nothing to see here!!!

Detritus70

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402396#Comment_122402396

Yeah, maybe there should be some tightening of gun control laws in the US when any loon can get his hands on a gun?

Funny how that happens so often over there.

Nice, now I can add "tHe dEmOcRaTs aRe tHe nAziS!!1!!" to my idiot bingo card, thanks.

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402445#Comment_122402445

So, only people who disagree with you can be Nazis!!

Are you denying the existence of DEI/ESG policies across corporations, media and academia? Its' happening in this country, so I'm not sure how anyone can deny the existence of an ideology that has penetrated corporations/media/culture and academia with any credibility.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402117#Comment_122402117

One could posit that that's two people who've had "Road to Damascus" conversions then in the past. As for Carlson, he doesn't seem to have gotten an improvement of his reputation with his comments in Australia and elsewhere.

techdiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402473#Comment_122402473

I'm not a fan of enforced DEI etc but to link that practice to nazism is a reach. Also DEI is only one small part of ESG (if I'm understanding you that ESG is Environmental, Social and Governance?). In general ESG (or whatever you want to call corporate checks and balances) are in general a good thing. You can disagree with tenets of policy without throwing the baby out with the bath water.

It's also possible to call out bad/poor/fringe policy and ideology without jumping straight to Trump and his far right maga ideology.

Doctor Jimbob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402328#Comment_122402328

Just because they have been complaining for years doesn't mean the complaints have any merit.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402396#Comment_122402396

Glen Beck, is that you?

everlast75

Amazing the way people equivocate on behalf of trump, in the guise of being an honest broker, but eventually when they argue enough, the reasons why reveal themselves. They let slip their own issues with immigration, racism or culture wars. Always seems to always be at the centre.

golfball37

I’d love to see Cal Thomas’s reaction to the RNC? Previous versions had put forward Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan .

The other night we had Hulk Hogan ripping off a T shirt !

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403177#Comment_122403177

He is an absolute fraud. Spews lies at a rate of knots and Matt tries and fails miserably to correct him.

Reminds me of that other American George Hook used to have on. His views were absolutely outrageous.

Frank Bullitt

Rewatching his speech at the RNC…a 90 minute ramble on absolutely nothing. Him talking about AI and how it needs twice as much electricity that the country has to operate…what????

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403109#Comment_122403109

I don't get it, are you suggesting Glenn Beck is behind the DEI idology that is being pushed across Government, Corporations, Media, Academia and Culture? Or are you suggesting that Glenn Beck is suggesting that George Soros is behind it…because it is definitely happening, we can all see that….

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403378#Comment_122403378

Do you think its Soros?

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122402873#Comment_122402873

I agree with you it is a strect to compare DEI with Nazism.

But we do agree, that the Nazis did impose quotas cross corporations and pushed their ideology through academia, media and culture? We can agree on that surely? (My point being that the Nazis increased the size of Government and used media and culture to achieve that)

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403391#Comment_122403391

I think it is the Irish Government in our case. And The US Governments in the case of the US. Do you think it's Soros?

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403170#Comment_122403170

The centre of the issue is between the ears but for different reasons.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403392#Comment_122403392

Ah yes, the Nazis who were famous for increasing diversity in the workplace and recognising systemic inequalities.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403209#Comment_122403209

It's a big problem. And they are generating that electricity with windmills! Won't somebody please think of the poor whales being killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4DLzpB8e84

Maxface

Just some alternative facts. A fine character of a man, and truly amazing that he has so many followers.

Organised and led a plot to have fake votes created and then used to make him President despite losing the election

…. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Lost the election.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sent an armed angry mob to Congress and told them they need to fight like hell.

…. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Approved of the mob saying “hang Mike Pence”.

…. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Was found liable for sexual assault.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Was found guilty of defrauding his university students.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Was found guilty of inflating his assets to get favourable loans.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Admitted to walking in on minor pageant contestants dressing rooms.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Stole from a kid's cancer charity.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Received $413 million inheritance, despite claims that he’s a self-made man.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Blocked his chronically ill infant nephew from getting any of that inheritance.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Is the first president to receive votes against him from his own party during impeachment.

….. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Said the Democrats do better with the economy.

… . ⁠⁠⁠⁠Was ranked as the worst president in history by presidential historians.

…. ⁠⁠⁠Ordered republicans to block a bipartisan immigration bill, so Biden would not get a win before the election.

….. ⁠⁠⁠Is a convicted felon guilty of falsifying records to influence an election.

Found that on Reddit.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403620#Comment_122403620

Ah, is that the fault of the American Educational system which Trump has strong "American Values" feelings about, a case of too much knowledge in his head swamping his mental ability to understand what he is reading and hearing?

He did go to the New York Military Academy, a boarding school, where he was captain of the baseball team. Incidentally, would his bone spur problem [which kept him out of serving in the US Military] not have been a disability for any member of a baseball team seeing as it is an athletic sport?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403894#Comment_122403894

Imagine the level of baseball that would have been reached had it not been for those bone spurs. Many people say I would have been the best baseball player ever. Better than Babe Ruth. You gotta have a big brain to be a good baseball player. A stable one. Stable genius if you will.

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403573#Comment_122403573

Well, none of need history lessons, we know the Nazis spent 10 years vilifying Jewish people through their control of media outlets, and sytematically stripping them of their rights, removing them from their earned positions in corporations, business, academia, media and culture…they then orchestrated an attack on Government buildings and blamed their political rivals which allowed them to tighten their control of the German Democracy, but of course, we all know that.

By the way, I don't believe that the Democrats, or the Republicans are Nazis, I simply believe that their political system has been corrupted by corporations for decades and needs a good clean gutting on both sides. Who knows, we might live to see an end to pointless wars that only cause death and destruction to ordinary people.

And for what it is worth, I also understand the view of people who think completely different to me.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403989#Comment_122403989

Here is Trump echoing the language of the Nazis, talking about his political opponents as vermin and pledging to "root them out".

How is that not villifying them?

How is that not "removing them from their earned positions"?

Trump tried to steal an election to circumvent American Democracy, but of course, we all know that.

He then orchestrated an attack on Government buildings, but of course, we all know that.

Ironic Trump talking about fascists while invoking their language.
The fascists are in the mirror.

He invokes the language of the Nazis, not to describe Jews, but to describe immigrants.

First the Nazis came for the Communists…

"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country,"

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213746885/trump-vermin-hitler-immigration-authoritarian-republican-primary

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122404010#Comment_122404010

And there you go, I can honestly appreciate why you hold that view of Trump, and don't think any less of you for it and you are right Trumps language especially the use of the term vermin is a disgrace, he played his own part in the assasination attempt last week in my view. Id much prefer that he was more polished, less erratic, less confrontational, the guy can't go two sentences without complimenting himself to the point where it's comical. But the US has 3 choices in November that may very well decide whether we see WW3 in the coming years and the only thing I am 100% sure of is that Biden is not the man who will see us avoid that war, the Americans know this better than any of us, and you can see what way they are going even if you dont want to admit it!!

Whereas you think I am all kids of stupid/mysodginst/racist/homophobe/anti vax/deplorable….almost like vermin, in fact I do recall the NYT publishing a picture of Republican Senators as rats. So lets not pretend only one side is behaving dangerously when it comes to language and rhetoric.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403989#Comment_122403989

"I simply believe that their political system has been corrupted by corporations for decades and needs a good clean gutting on both sides"

AKA Drain the swamp, AKA Trump's message.

Anyone who thinks that 45 was interested in doing this is utterly, utterly delusional.

He is one of the most corrupt presidents ever. Shamelessly so.

The fact that you or anyone else, goes to bat for him is beyond understanding.

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122403989#Comment_122403989

So just for clarity, are you suggesting that Trump is the leader to do the cleansing?

Ignoring the 'good people on both sides' argument.

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122404051#Comment_122404051

Well, if Bernie Sanders had been allowed to take on Trump in 2016 or 2020 perhaps all this could have been avoided, I'd have voted for him, he'd have wiped the floor with Trump and he would been able to last two terms easily ….but the leaders of the Democratic party went a different way, the same leaders who have led the party into the disarray we see today….they've dug their own graves, it's the people who have defended these people are the people I feel sorry for, the real deplorable are the influencers in the media in my view.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122404046#Comment_122404046

I think there is more chance of WW3 with Trump in the White House, giving dog whistles to dictators that they can attack US allies if Trump thinks they "haven't paid their bills". And if Trump tries to 'reward' or 'appease' illegal invasions by dictators with territory and concessions etc. I can think of nothing more likely to lead to more conflict.

And I say that over any Biden, Harris or any Democrat who would be consistent with usual US policy on this.

Similarly I think under Trump US foreign policy could be manipulated not by US national interest or economic interests but the economic interests of the Trump family.

And lets not pretend there is any real equivalence between the levels of "behaving dangerously" when it comes to language and rhetoric. For every one instance from the Democrats, we can point to ten, far worse by Republicans, since Tea Party \ MAGA \ Trump Republicans came onto the scene.

Flaneur OBrien

Why do so many of Trumps ex-staff say he's unsuitable to be president?

Why do so many of Trumps ex-staff not support him this time around?

If you're looking to hire someone, don't you look for references?

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122404055#Comment_122404055

I honestly can't say.

Maybe it's RFK, maybe Sanders would have been the man…but we are stuck with Trump, who should have been dead and buried two years ago….until the FBI raided his home.