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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭amandstu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,685 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭bog master


    Would be a "perfect phone call" A perfect tape!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭storker


    In the spirit of kids being forced to proceed with unwanted pregnancies, Trump should also be forced to carry Vance for the full term.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭amandstu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,161 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,975 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    hey now, under the new landmark scotus ruling those 💩’s might be considered official acts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,685 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,161 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    They are busy cataloging them up at the National Archives as we speak



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Add in the comment by one of the Israelis in Netanyahu's inner circle of Harris keeping to her arranged schedule of meetings around the states and not changing it to attend the meeting between Biden and Netanyahu, that it was the difference good and evil. Her statements about the lack of care shown by the Netanyahu Govt to the Palestinian civilian population in its war with Hamas have struck hard with the Israeli Govt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Vance has changed his stated position on Trump once already. If the polls suddenly start showing the graphs swinging in favour of Harris, it's entirely possible that Vance might see it to be to his advantage to walk away from Trump and claim that he did so in the national interests of the US, wrapping the Stars and Stripes around himself as it were. They seem to be both as unreliable as each other at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    I don't see him walking away, as regardless of any of his "policies" they agree with, he would lose votes for abandoning their idol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You mean... trump could be lying???

    *Shocked face*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,975 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    show us the bullet hole Donald

    I know something Lauren Boebert won’t demand proof of



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Why would it matter if he was hit by a bullet or a bit of glass?

    The shooter was aiming to kill him.Isn't that enough?

    Who would stage a shooting with oneself as the centrepiece?For Trump to be lying now just tells us that he is well and acting normally (lies are in the air he breathes and the gases he exudes or expels)

    I would love it to be staged but I can't see any point to it or any practical way it could be done.(it was my first reaction ,how could they miss and be so close? But I quickly changed my mind and it was as genuine as anything can be with Trump)

    Has anyone asked Pen and Teller?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    It makes a difference because he says he took a bullet for democracy. Did he? Or is he lying yet again?

    I think it's incredible that the only "report" was issued by a disgraced former doctor.

    Do we know if he was tested for any mental issues? Being shot might cause PTSD. As a presidential candidate, the public has a right to know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The expert in rape weighs in....

    (Ps - disgusting ****ing racist)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    True enough ref the assassin aiming to kill Trump. It's Trump's "I took a bullet for democracy"" exaggeration about the wound he received to his ear during the incident that he may regret if the extent of the actual wound is revealed and is shown to be different to his description, making it appear that he couldn't resist telling a lie to the voters.

    His reaction to the fanbase at the time, the raised fist and shout and the photos were really beneficial to his cause. That should have satisfied any sensible person thinking of the PR it would bring his campaign. IMO, he put all that gain at risk with his ITABFD claim. If he did manage to get re-elected, I have no doubt that he would suggest a award for himself of a federal medal apt for some-one who had taken a bullet for democracy.

    I don't have any doubt that the assassin meant to kill him and screwed up the task he set himself. The failure of federal and state security agencies to properly protect Trump were something the assassin was unable to take advantage of, lucky for Trump but not his other victims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    Watched this earlier, I'm not a ballistics expert but it does suggest that it wasn't a bullet unless of course there's been brain damage that we are unaware of.

    The term “tangential wound” is credited to Dodge and Mierowsky in 1952 in their series of Korean War injuries (2). They are classically described as injuries in which the missile does not penetrate the inner table of the skull, but produces significant intracranial pathology.

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    A week is a long time in politics. He's looking at a long time in politics, after Trump will have left the political stage and maybe the party as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭amandstu


    We know he is a lying pos.But even a lying pos can be at the receiving end of a genuine attempt on his life .

    True his reaction looks bizarre but I would have to be persuaded that the event as a whole was staged.

    That seems impossibly unlikely.

    The story now seems to be that the law enforcement who might have seen him had left their posts and gone out looking for the shooter.

    His now completely healed ear is a mystery in itself.It is one thing for a bullet to miss his head and hit an ear but another to just graze the ear .

    Bizarre all over:-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    If you were to tell me that one of these people is accused of looking like a senile old man and the other draws no such comments, I'd be looking at the guy on the left, who looks like they stuck a suit on a guy from an old folks home to allow him to pretend he's still working in the real world.

    Wtf is that hair like? Honestly? It's the worst comb-over I've ever seen?

    Compare that to Biden, who looks polished, professional and respectable.

    What a bizarre f**king country......

    (PS - ear looks absolutely fine to me)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "That seems impossibly unlikely"

    Do you want me to list the amount of such things since 2015 involving this guy?

    I'm not saying it's staged either. I am saying that we have zero details about his condition after the event. Zero. After an assassination attempt. No official record.

    As I said, I think the phrase of taking a bullet for the country is a huge ****ing statement to make. I'm saying that it's not unreasonable to ask for proof, especially when the guy is a notorious liar. And it is not unreasonable to ask for details, especially from a guy who demanded the long form birth certificate of Obama, or medical records from Biden, and who is known for lying about his own medical health.

    I think if there were records saying he was shot, trump would have released them by now, even in redacted form .

    Anyway, I'll leave it there.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,040 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It wasn't staged.

    It was a terrible thing and an awful indictment on the state of the US at present.

    The Secret Service screwed up for sure in terms of their lack of overwatch and response times and reaction to the reports of the shooter by local police etc.

    What is abundantly clear though is that Trump, as he has done for every single other event in his life , is wildly exaggerating the scale of the incident and is milking this for all the money he can get from it.

    How much less money would have been donated to Trumps campaign in the aftermath of the event if the story was "Trump suffered a minor laceration caused by a piece of flying debris during a failed assassination attempt" instead of the whole "I took a bullet for Democracy" schtick?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Community notes ftw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's months yet to go to the actual elections and things are getting worse in respect to what happens to people who favour one candidate over the other. A 22 year old man in Hancock, Michigan, tore down Trump signs on an 80 year old man's lawn & when the elderly gent went to put them back up, the younger man drove over him with an SUV. He also damaged the windows and tyres of 2 cars then went home, called the police, told them what he had done, gave them his address and asked them to pick him up. When they arrived, they found him dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    Post edited by aloyisious on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,100 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Biden called for civility in his address.

    Trump told his people to fight.

    I wonder has that anything to do with it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,975 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    mental illness clearly played the role in that one. Killing spree suicide special.



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