Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

Beasty

A continuation from here

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058151198/what-does-the-future-hold-for-donald-trump-threadbans-in-op

As always keep it civil. 2024 Election talk belongs here

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058346991/biden-v-trump-and-one-or-two-others-the-us-presidential-election-2024-read-op-before-posting

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Flaneur OBrien

Just going to kickstart this one with this:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/24/trump-apprentice-film-cease-and-desist

The last line is pretty funny, tbf.

Speaking to the press recently, Abbasi appeared unconcerned by the threat of legal action. “Donald’s team should watch the movie before they start suing us,” he said. “Everyone’s always talking about him suing a lot of people. They don’t talk about his success rate, though.”

randomuser02125

@concerned_tenant from the other thread

So a jury of 9 coming back in under 3 hours doesn't convince you? Then you are starting from your conclusion and working backwards. To believe the courts in NYC are that corrupt makes you part of the cult. We got a pile of vague nonsense about anything but Tiny raping E Jean Carroll. Maybe a hint of 'oh he probably did it but it was so long ago '.

looksee

A motion that Trump’s lawyers filed in his federal classified documents case, also unsealed Tuesday, asserted that the August 2022 search was unconstitutional and “illegal,” misquoting the operations order as saying that “law enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary.” Associated Press articleThe

The operations order states 'may only use deadly force when necessary'.

There is no limit to the stupidity of his lawyers, they must have been aware they were mis-quoting.

Jack Smith as asked Judge Cannon to issue a gag order against Trump. We wait (and will probably continue to wait) with bated breath.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181490#Comment_122181490

It really is incredibly stupid to misquote when it's so very easy to copy and paste a quote precisely. It's almost like they had to do it on purpose.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181037#Comment_122181037

I saw that too.

Are we getting to the point of MAGA supports saying:

«Yes, he’s guilty of a crime…*but* what is a ‘Crime’ really? Trump was just being Law-Adjacent….because he loves America…”

…or some such nonsense.

Quite disappointing to see what a diet of NewsMax or G-beebies can do to a person’s moral compass, where they’ll actually defend a proven rapist.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181490#Comment_122181490

If Cannon doesn't issue the order, it may be Smith appeals and gets her removed from the case.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182940#Comment_122182940

No doubt she's incommunicado with Trumps team to see what's the best way forward.

It'll be some craic if he does get re-elected and nominates her to the supreme court at the next opportunity…

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182067#Comment_122182067

You kind of have to wonder about the calibre of Trumps legal team. Bearing in mind this is a guy who is notoriously bad at paying his bills,

If you take the full set of legal talent available as a whole, I would imagine some would not like to represent a convicted rapist. Some may not want to represent someone who is probably guilty - or who will probably be found guilty at least. Considering how he treated Rudi Giuliani, you would wonder how many razor sharp legal minds are happy to join his legal team.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183121#Comment_122183121

Apparently he's already repeatedly insulted Susan Nechles, one of his lawyers in the Manhattan case, calling her a loser

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183217#Comment_122183217

We'll soon see who is the loser.

concerned_tenant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183407#Comment_122183407

Is Trump likely to actually see jail, though — if convicted?

It would be extraordinary for a former US president (and possibly future president) to be jailed in the midst or after an election campaign.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183678#Comment_122183678

Extraordinary behaviour demands extraordinary treatment

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183678#Comment_122183678

Fingers crossed.

Personally, I think he'll get off due to a hung jury, and then he'll proclaim how he was innocent all along, and that it wasted his time when he should have been campaigning.

And your ilk will fall in line, and say it should never have been brought to court in the first case, and everyone on your side of the aisle will carry on, showing utter contempt of the justice system.

While I and my ilk will treat him the same way OJ Simpson was treated. Refuse to accept a verdict of the hung jury, as it is not a sign of being found innocent, it is a sign that the jury could not agree, but we'll all (including you and your ilk) know he is as guilty as can be.

In the meantime, you might turn around and announce that you have found a definition of fascism that you are able to share publicly, retract and correct the incorrect quote on your sig, or you'll just delete this account and create another one with another odious person as your avatar, maybe Graham Linehan next time?

Water John

Trump's conviction would be an important step, in reminding the people how repugnant he is.

MICKEYG

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183678#Comment_122183678

It would be extraordinary if he was convicted and did not go to jail.

Justice must be blind so no matter who he is, was or might be, if he is guilty he must pay the price like everyone else.

An election should have nothing to do with it.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183678#Comment_122183678

Doesn't matter. If he is found guilty he will be the very definition of a loser.

Plus there is the question, as most states bar convicted felons for running for public office, if he will then be allowed run in the presidential election, so loser multiplied by two.

Ahwell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183726#Comment_122183726

They have him bang to rights in the hush money case. His lawyers offered no real defence because there wasn’t any. The only way the decision gets split is if one or more of the jurors was predisposed towards Trump from the beginning. A hung jury is possible, but it’s unlikely given the weight of evidence.

PropJoe10

So, Donald Trump is human scum. New thread, but some things never change.

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183745#Comment_122183745

In fairness you don't need a conviction or another civil trial verdict for anyone in full possession of their faculties to know or be reminded of that, he makes it plainly obvious on a near daily basis.

everlast75

The misdemeanors appear to be a slam dunk.

The "step up" offence requires intent, and that'll be trickier to prove.

Some jurors may only be swayed by the cheques that are signed by Trump, so apparently counts 1-10 involve cheques that he hasn't signed, so don't have a heart attack if you hear "not guilty" the first ten times

Rawr

It’s «extraordinary» for a former US Predisdent to face jail?

Do you know what’s more extraordinary? That someone so nakedly self-centered and corrupt to the core was allowed to even get onto the docket in the first place. For him to even assume the office despite losing the popular vote and then use his time in office to play-act the role of President despite barely being able to run anything with his name attached to it and then proceed to lead quite possibly the worst administration the White House as ever seen.

Add to that the extraordinary situation that a man who attempted to actually overthrow the US Government, essentially a traitor, is somehow still a free man.
That he may face jail for commiting a crime is not the most extraordinary thing about this. What’s most extraordinary are the people coming out to defend him knowing too well what he actually is…and not caring at all, so long as they can feel like they’ve won argument.

Maxface

It should be entirely normal that if you do crimes, you pay for them, like the rest of us. Holding office and/or trying to hold that office again doesn't preclude you from being accountable.

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183678#Comment_122183678

Probably not, he'll use bone spurs as an excuse

Ahwell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122184288#Comment_122184288

You’re right, but Trump should have already done some jail time for contempt of court in the hush money case. Anyone else would have , but as the judge said - he doesn’t want to have to send an ex-president to jail. We then have the Trump appointed judge in the documents case desperately trying to walk the tightrope of slow walking the case to ensure it won’t be heard before the election or getting kicked off the case for her obvious corruption and incompetence. Not the mention the two totally compromised maga-Supreme Court Justices refusing to recuse themselves from the presidential immunity decision, which is also an attempt to stop the D.C. case from going ahead before the election. It’s a mess.

ghostfacekilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183121#Comment_122183121

Wolff who wrote Fire and Fury on Trump's term in the WH covered that they were rebutted by any legal firm of note in the country due to his toxicity, and the effect it would have on their brand. The same author claims that Donnie was having an affair with Nikki Haley during his term, which she denied.

Overheal

Donald mercilessly booed at Libertarian National Convention 🫖

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/9Dodc2Bo7f

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122184433#Comment_122184433

Not in MAGA world!

https://twitter.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1794554303841006056

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122183678#Comment_122183678

He most likely won't be, regardless those who support him will basically be happy to support a noted felon, fraudster and rapist. The party of supposed law and order seem to not support it at all. And you're most likely gonna say that it's all ignorable and perfectly acceptable to vote for him.

HakunaJuanMata

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122185260#Comment_122185260

What does it say about the incumbent administration's performance the last 4 years if a Felon,Fraudster and rapist is destroying them on 90% of swing states and favourite to win the election.

Was there a pivotal moment that the Biden-Harrris administration lost the American electorate?

Looking back on 538 data it suggests job performance satisfaction took a large dip at the time of Afghanistan withdrawal and never returned to prior levels.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122186746#Comment_122186746

Whatever about the incumbent, what does it say about the RNC to make him the nominee?