Cost of coffee in cafes

Gusser09

Mcdonalds is the nicest coffee around for the price it is at.

Havenowt

Cafe Nero €4.65 for a large cappuccino.

turbbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058353285/cost-of-coffee-in-cafes

This is how long is a piece of string argument. Are you paying for a top quality coffee - or just average garbage coffee?

3.80 would be very cheap for a single origin espresso based drink. It's like comparing presseco to champagne - big differences.

magicbastarder

how many cafes offer premium coffees at standard coffee rates though? if they're doing it and not telling you they're doing that, more fool them.

turbbo

what is premium vs standard cafes aren’t ran by charity funds so I’d expect 3.80 gets you feck all

magicbastarder

Then I don't know what your point is?

You tell me you don't know if you're getting premium quality or not, and then tell me there's no way you're getting premium quality.

ELM327

Is it just me that thinks 3.80 for a coffee in a sit down establishment is actually not bad value?

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122186518#Comment_122186518

Of course it is a cost. On what planet is it not. The employer funds your tax contributions. In most case they literally pay them to revenue on your behalf.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122186708#Comment_122186708

Your salary, the they pay includes your income tax. It's quite literally a portion of your salary.
They could simply said salary, but they point of that this includes the taxed portion and not just take home. Claiming that is not the case, or that it double counting is simply incorrect.

Mellor

In general I find the coffee in Ireland very expensive. And in most places, the quality is pretty crap. Apparently the niche specialist are emerging, but then even more expensive. I can't see the numbers in the article, but over a euro a coffee in staff cost would mean the place is not selling many coffees (or staff are simply slow).

I typically pay $4 AUD, which is about (2.50 Eur) in Sydney. And getting a bad coffee would be the exception.

Geuze

The proprietor of a shop in central Galway says that the direct costs (NB: direct costs only) of a cup of tea for take-away is 26 cent.

That excludes wages and overheads.

Geuze

Not exactly cafes, but this information may be helpful:

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0523/1450902-louis-fitzgerald-hospitality-group-profits-dip-to-16-3m/

The Louis Fitzgerald hospitality group makes 73.6% gross profit margin, and 20% net profits.

mcgragger

no matter what way you look at it - its a feckin rip off.

if you buy a coffee a (work)day for 3.80 your up into the high hundreds per year!

Boardnashea

Pension adviser visited our office recently and pointed out that if you put your €3.50 into savings you could expect to have €170k at 65 (i presume you have to start that when you're 21!).

Portugal a couple of years ago we regularly paid €1.25-1.50 for an espresso (or whatever it's called in Portugal). Went as low as €0.75 in one place in Lisbon! There wasn't a seat - just at the bar, maybe a stool.

Ted222

Swings and roundabouts

3.80 in a cafe for a good quality coffee where you can sit for the best part of an hour is good value but a poor return for a cafe owner.

3.80 for a poor quality takeaway from a trailer is extremely bad value and probably mostly profit for the owner.

My son works in a well known pub where they offer cappuccino and flat whites. He’s been told there’s no actual difference and that the customer gets the same regardless. In 10 years, not one person has queried it.

Maybe we just don’t know as much about coffee as we’d like to think.

SAMTALK

Costa the biggest rip off and the worst coffee

Butson

The Great Irish Coffee Swindle.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122194623#Comment_122194623

Their hot chocolate is good though.

Former Former Former

That article is littered with so many errors and made up stats that it's very hard to take seriously. If that is really how the guy is running his business then yes, I can understand why he's struggling.

Coffee is a luxury item. In richer countries where disposable income is higher, it will always cost more.

That's why your coffee is cheaper in Portugal but if you go to Switzerland, you'll be looking back wistfully on your 3.80 americano in Ireland.

The idea that coffee is somehow worse in Ireland than other countries is a bit nonsensical tbh.

Water John

How we used to factor wages as an item cost in manufacturing, was to take the gross wage per hour and multiply x 1.5.

If the the worker/machine turned 90 parts per hour, divide the multiple arrived at by 90. That accounts for bank holidays, holidays into the product cost.