Hay 2024

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122280238#Comment_122280238

Agree, but you will get the narrow ones for next to nothing, they are likely to need a good bit of welding and plating to tighten them up a bit.

A thedder is another option as many baler contractors don't want to see hay bob rows and the thedder would be far superior at turning out hay.

Dunedin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122280380#Comment_122280380

100%.

Stay well clear of the auld haybob.

fits

gawdam rain looks definite for tomorrow now. Will have to wrap I’d say. One field was thinner so might get a few hay bales maybe

Reggie.

Why not let the ran pass and turn away from sat or Sunday. You'd get it next week no bother. That's what we ate doing here. Bit of rain never hurt any hay

fits

considering it! How much rain can it take. 5 mm forecast here now

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122281532#Comment_122281532

It will be finest. The weather after Friday is good and it will come back to life very easily

johnnyw20

very rare you get good forecast after a bit of rain when hay is near fit. I’m letting15 acres of hay that’s a day off being baled get wet tomorrow. Won’t do it any harm

fits

the dry spell looking less certain now too!

kk.man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122281948#Comment_122281948

it does...f÷_%&ing ragging

Castlekeeper

It's to pour in Limerick tomorrow, it'd take bravery to have grass down for it.

Castlekeeper

Depends on the budget and volume if work I suppose, I've a Fransgard I got a few years ago and it turns away the finest, I let the contractor be raking it anyway.

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122282187#Comment_122282187

Yeah talk of rain possibly moving in on Tuesday now

roosterman71

Seems like the rain is back next week alright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122283325#Comment_122283325

Silverdream

All baled up now, 127 bales, first two meadows were perfect, the other meadow wasn't good enough, far too fresh with lumps of green and it felt cold so I wrapped them. I thought I'd get them but today was useless on hay. At least it held dry, as it feels like the heavens are going to let loose soon.

So a success in getting 81 bales of nice hay and 46 of hayledge. Don't know what to do next week, the forecast is changing again. 20 acres left to go

fits

well done! Still warm and breezy here. I’m hoping the rain will peeter out by the time it gets to the south east but that’s just wishful thinking.

minerleague

Cut for hay yesterday ( Thursday) thinking next week was to be good, forecast has changed, see more than me at same.

Robson99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122286923#Comment_122286923

A lot are in the same boat

Gudstock

Me too...

Hoping for haylage now on Monday...maybe turn twice before Monday eve when it dries out again

Tileman

I told you it’s always next week the weather will be good. It’s infuriating at this stage

k mac

Have 12 acres that with being in acres could not fertilise or cut until 01st of July, nice enough crop in it but would not be great to bale for silage nd do not want the hassle of hay as i don't have the equipment and would have to be paying someone to turn it daily. How much would it be worth to sell as hay meadow.

Gudstock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122287383#Comment_122287383

Anyone who gets hay made around here is asking e40/bale in the field

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122286995#Comment_122286995

Or should have knocked it a week ago, could be a long time waiting for the Goldilocks weather.

fits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122287383#Comment_122287383

why can’t you fertilise or cut until July 1st?

2smiggy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122287686#Comment_122287686

part of the acres scheme involves leaving the field as natural till 1st July, cutting early you probably lose what ever money you are paid for it. I presume for birds and insects. We had a small field that was only meant to be used for grazing that we baled for hay a few years back. Sure enough they had satellite picks of bales on the field. we were let off, but I'd imagine they are stricter for larger fields

Tileman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122287557#Comment_122287557

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122287557#Comment_122287557

well the neighbour cut it here last week and had to wrap it last night. Had one small field down still and it has pissed rain today so no I’m glad I didn’t cut. Plenty of time left yet.

emaherx

Ah one raining wouldn't do a bit of harm, next 4 days still to be hot.

Still have a little down myself, but it only drizzled a bit here.

Reggie.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122288478#Comment_122288478

GGood drop of rain fell here the last hour but you can still smell the strong hay smell from a field here beside the house. 1 or 2 days and she'll be right

Silverdream

Rained a good bit in the early afternoon here, but we've a strong wind that is drying places again as quick. Gonna hold off for a week or more before cutting again as the weather is too uncertain. I hope it settles down soon or there'll be f-all hay to be bought in the country only heaps of silage bales everywhere

fits

absolutely bucketing down here right now. Was ok up until now.

fits

You can cut hay meadow in June but if you leave it until July you get a bonus payment of 50/ha. Not really worth it. You have to go for it if you get a weather window.

For grazing fields you aren’t supposed to top it until mid July I think but that’s a different thing.

emaherx

Suns back out here now, weekend will see the job finished.

weatherbyfoxer

Just over 4mm since 2pm today here in South Kildare..More due Tuesday morning.Far from ideal hay weather

emaherx

No, not ideal but hay that's down already and got one wetting will be fine before Tuesday evening. Many years we don't get any ideal weather but I still get hay most years without too much issue, but wouldn't if I sat waiting for the ideal forecast.

To be fair today's rain was in the forecast when I knocked the meadow, those upset by next week's "promised" forecast need to realise anything beyond 5 days was never really promised as meteorologists never give any certainty after that.

Silverdream

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289250#Comment_122289250

Very true, often lads waiting for the perfect hay weather miss many opportunities. Stuff cut Wedsnesday this week would be got by Tuesday evening. The first two days after being cut can be used to let the grass wilt before shaking out, that way if the weather doesn't play ball you can bale it up as silage, but if 3 good days come after the two days wilt you'll get the hay.

I think we have it easier than pass generations, they didn't have the fall back of making silage bales.

One thing I have learn't is the Haybob has got its last repair for me, I'll be investing in a tether for myself. I reckon I missed out on about 10 bales of hay due to the haybob not shaking out the stuff by the walls good enough. It tended to lump the stuff up where the crop was heavy

Castlekeeper

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122289250#Comment_122289250

That's an interesting approach, i would always been more of a Goldilocks type and would have thought it best to start shaking it out the day it was mowed, I suppose it depends on the forecast.

Forecast has changed now, we're to get a few showers on Tuesday, a lot of the country will escape, but Wednesday is to be fine again with rain Thursday morning.

I'm wondering, if I cut today it'll be tight and what kind of a way would I be then with a wetting at that stage?

Now its old organic ground so it'll dry quick too and round bales are pretty safe...

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122290107#Comment_122290107

I mowed last Sunday, rowed up the headland and a damp paddock on Monday, baled Tuesday, turned the rest for the first time Wednesday, turned again Thursday, did nothing Friday due to rain, will turn today and bale tomorrow. Sure it got wet once, it was always in the forecast. The grass has not been overly turned and abused but is well killed out now, still has a nice green tint and fresh hay smell.

I was planning on trying to get another bit knocked this week, but even I'm chickening out with the current forecast, too many little bits of rain scattered through the week, at least this week there was only one spell forecast for a few hours.

It would be nice to wait for the goldilocks weather, which may or may not come, but I've too much fodder this year due to changing to a calf based system and just not stocking heavily enough yet, so I need to sell and hay is much easier to shift. (even easier if that perfect weather never comes now)

whelan2

Forecast not looking as bad as they were saying now for late next week

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122290175#Comment_122290175

It really has changed in the last hour…..
Could be mowing yet 😁, I think I'll finish what I have first.

Dunedin

cut mine Wednesday evening, shook out straight away and again Thursday. Will turn today and tomorrow and hopefully bale Monday.

today is likely to be overcast and tomorrow a good one and Monday supposedly too.

It’s less than 4 acres and while I’d like to get it obviously, I won’t lose sleep either. More important things in life……..

893bet

just cut a light for the most part weedy rushy crop. Hoping to bale Wednesday ….

Castlekeeper

A dull enough day here alright, but with temperatures due to rise, will I go for it...

Silverdream

Out of action this time, I broke the end off the sliding tube on the haybob, I thought I could weld it but it's too rusty and the metal is gone thin. The welder is only punching holes in the tube. Had a quick look on donedeal, there's nothing near me of any use or else its overpriced trash.

I think I'm going to buy new and get the tams grant. It's 60% for Organic farmers, the reference cost of a Haybob/tether is 3900, but will I be able to get new for that is the question. I was browsing at machinery costs and was shocked at how expensive some stuff has got. Cheapest disc mower is 8.5k now!! The Franzgaurd combi 390 is 6900, no idea what the Enorossi DR420 Tedder is but I imagine it must be far more.

Value of money is gone to sh1te, someone mentioned they'd have to be getting 40 a bale in the field for hay, cripes I reckon that is a bargin at 40. With the costs involved and the lottery that it is I wouldn't be selling hay bales under 60

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122290421#Comment_122290421

What part of the country are you in? If you were stuck for that part for the sake of a few days I may have a spare.

Silverdream

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122290480#Comment_122290480

100% thanks, I'm in west clare, Ive located the part of a dealer a few miles away, it's the tube that stops the haybob from swiviling too far left or right, the one you close the clamp on when travelling. Problem is its an angle grinder job to get out the rusted bolt holding it in on both machines. On top of which I've a punchure, tiss pure torture!! Anyways

I'm going to mow away this afternoon once it dries out, I'm only going for 6 acres this time, the rest could do with growing a bit more so I have time. Once mowed I'll go at the rust bucket haybob.

emaherx

Ah, no bother. Wouldn't be worth travelling this far for one. Would like to upgrade here too. Think I'll look at a tedder of some description for next season. Don't mind the haybobs for rowing as they suit the claas 46 I have for baling but could do with something better for tedding.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122290580#Comment_122290580

was considering purchasing a 4 rotor Tedder myself next year. Was thinking of going for a Massey one as they are using the lely technology. Is there a grant for these in tams or is that just for organics?

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122292724#Comment_122292724

As far as I know, it's only in organics

2smiggy

Its wonderful the way the weather forecast is changing daily, sometimes more !! My father has an old nokia, and is now cursing people with all the weather apps on their phones

893bet

it’s improving….glad I cut yesterday

Silverdream

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122293538#Comment_122293538

I cut some yesterday too, it didn't give you much inspiration here in the west in the evening, it made a right heavy mist all evening. One thing I did notice when I was cutting was plenty of small copper butterflys and I came across a yellow frog, both of which is a great sign of the weather. Which is why the forecasts for the next week onwards don't seem to match. I wonder which weather we will get? Either way i can do nothing with it till I fix the rust bucket haybob.

Anyone thinking of buying hay equipment through the tams, it closes for applications in September. At the moment I intend using the scheme to get a tedder, a weighing scales and maybe a front loader. (The scales os only 40% grant)