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Hay 2024

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Forget the weather forecast on rte, have look at the weather daily weather forecast on the weather section on boards from MT Cranium and also start looking at 2 major weather models the ECM and GFS



  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Silverdream




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    The ECM has 2 major runs a day about 7am and 7pm. The gfs has 4 major runs at 5am, 11am , 5pm and 11pm, Every run has subtle differences after 5 days but it's the trend across both models and lots of runs that is key. The 2 models also to rainfall predictions as well



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭emaherx


    The mid week rain (here anyway) looks to have disappeared but with the days after I think I'll still chance cutting some now. If the weather holds I'll knock more after midweek. I'm under stocked so will have plenty to sell this year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Not going to chance it back end of week is too dodge for me thus far.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    After leveling 12 acres of jungle. I waited for the 1pm forecast but yourone was talking out of both sides of her mouth, she couldn't even say today was going to stay dry.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Hopefully the weather holds up for another week and gets sunnier and I'll try and get 8 acres of hay, I just don't have time this week unfortunately but there is not much sun this week anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    We have gotten washed out of it here in the last hour. It was threatening to come for half the day before that. I'm bot gonna chance it this week but hope to mow 30 acres this day next week if the forecast is anyway good



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,449 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Got rain this evening too



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Weather is shocking it has being so difficult to get anything done last year everything only seems to get done by the skin of our teeth lately getting sick of it tbh its very frustrasting



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,513 ✭✭✭✭fits


    just knocked a couple of fields here. Hedging bets. In south east.



  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Week is promised ok up to Friday, not a lot of Sun but a good breeze most days. I find its easy to dry the hay out with the breeze but I'd like a strong day or two of sun to bleech the hay too.

    Anyways it cut now and its nice to get started rather than looking out at it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Was tight, but managed to make hay twice last year, in June and September. Already made a few bales this year and knocked 16 acres today, sometimes you just have to go for it but at least the wrapper is on standby as a safety net.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭emaherx


    No rain here, but was talking with a friend who's 5 min down the road who said it lashed as soon as he hooked up the mower, so he pulled the plug for today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Can someone explain the economics of buying in straw bales for bedding vs baling up a good few bales of hay?

    Why would i bed cattle on expensive straw when i can just land them on some dry hay i make myself?

    I have just converted to organic....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Pity unsettled weather moving in from Saturday



  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    With straw you are importing neutrients onto the land, hay doesn't have the same soakage as straw, it's harder to get it to rot in the dung heap. I've had hay in the dung heap still failing to break down after 12 months;

    but yes the economics of buying straw at last years prices is not on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    If you had a few rushy coarse meadows better than any straw, beaks down very quick after too. Pure hay tends to form a wet mat under the stock.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Would be typical that after years of clearing out farms of rushes that they could potentially be worth something.🤣



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Got it twice last year in June myself, but there is notting more hateful than baling fit hay after a shower 😂 I don't think it makes the nicest stuff wrapped when its that far gone



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yea, I think if it's going to be wrapped it's better to wrap early, but that still gives me a few extra days to call it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Are you allowed wood chip or sand. Can you use a scraper to keep muck away from the bedding area.

    Few local organic folks make hay from rush ground. Feed the bales to dry cows and what ever is left over is grabbed up and used as bedding. They will sort it quickly. These lads have moved to making very dry fodder and putting a serous fall in the floor of the lie back to keep it dry. One chap has a bit of a gravel pit on farm and tips a load of sand gravel into the bedding area and covers it. All mixed in the compost and spread.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Got hay twice last year in June and the year before on 4 separate occasions in 22

    The rain on friday and Saturday is moving around and wracking on each on the model runs. The warm air pushing up, I think will keep it well away. Tuesday and Wednesday will be good hay days, sunshine and wind.

    Tip is always turn for the weather, if it's starting to blow up into a good day, get turning it early at lunchtime. Very little point turning stuff after 4 or 5pm, the power is going out of the day unless it's a small bit of ground

    Next one is take it very handy tomorrow, slower forward speed on the tedders 4-5km/h max. You want to get all the crop.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yea, but amounts showing here are low, changing between Saturday afternoon and Friday evening, but set to improve after too.

    Think I'll bale/wrap one damp paddock and all of the headlands to speed things up a bit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,552 ✭✭✭kk.man


    The last number of years in this country has been terrible to predict hay. Good hay should be minimal 50e a bale with all the poker that goes with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Just gave it a run of the haybob, Slow start to the day, I thought it would be still fresh but it is surprising how it has progressed. I'll make a call on it tomorrow, it will need until Friday but if the weather isn't going to play ball I will bale it up tomorrow evening instead of letteing it go too far



  • Registered Users Posts: 499 ✭✭dryan


    5 acres knocked Saturday. Its heavy enough crop.
    Shook it out Sunday.
    Got the tail end of a shower last night.
    Went through it again at 4pm today and it got a good evening.

    Looking at Met, rain forecast for Friday although the GFS 12Z model run is showing less rain.
    Tuesday and Wednesday look to be good days so i might have a chance to bale it up late Thursday evening.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,513 ✭✭✭✭fits


    met Éireann forecasting fairly heavy rain here on Friday night in south east. We cut Sunday night. Will toss it this morning. One field heavy and one light enough. May need to wrap it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I've been watching that forecast here (for north east), and rain amounts keep changing considerably, not showing much now, but was showing a washout this morning, definitly worth watching. I'm wrapping headlands and damp spots this evening but still hopeful for some hay. Next week looks a better week and I've another 5 acres to knock.



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