Are post primary teachers contracted to work the month of June?

Warbeastrior

Title says it all really.

Alqua

No, just primary. A year's contract at post primary runs Sept-Aug, but the school year runs generally late Aug to end May/early days of June depending on calendar.

HazeDoll

The school year is 167 days. Sometimes that eats into the first few days of June (not this year though!) and we usually start back in the last week of August.

Teachers have the option of earning extra money by supervising state exams, correcting state exams or doing July provision but this isn't part of the contract.

Do you know, on this cold and windy May evening, I can't remember why I sometimes find it hard to like my job. I have vague memories of long late evenings stuck in school, annoying students and unreasonable parents, out-of-touch management and unwieldy IT, but somehow, just right now, the job doesn't seem so bad…

Warbeastrior

But how come SNAs in post primary are made to stay throughout June if there is SEN work to do but teachers are let off?

endacl

We’re not ‘let off’.

We’re ‘off’.

Warbeastrior

Don't be pedantic. You know what i meant.

lulublue22

I presume it’s a contractual issue ? It’s not unusual for different roles to have different contracts.

Bluespecs

In addition, teachers have a lot of work to do outside of official school hours. Planning classes, planning differentiation, correcting, schemes of work, obtaining and creating resources, managing resources, maintaining records, managing records, preparing formative and summative assessments, constantly upskilling, administration of all the documentation associated with all of the above…etc etc. They spend time during summer doing some of that work. Post Primary teachers have a long working day too. .

whitelaurel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122247453#Comment_122247453

ah pull the other one. What percentage of teachers spend time during the summer doing that lol

lulublue22

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Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122243221#Comment_122243221

No they are not. Its optional.

Treppen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122243221#Comment_122243221

SNAs are not on the same contract as teachers

Treppen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058353796/are-post-primary-teachers-contracted-to-work-the-month-of-june

Answer is no

gaiscioch

I got sick during school holidays once and the Department took my sick leave as starting during the holidays rather than from the day we all returned to work after the holidays.

I still find this hard to comprehend unless I am in theory supposed to be available for work during holidays.

At any rate, all the time I was sick during holidays was calculated as being part of my annual sick leave so my annual sick leave that year is much worse than the days missed in school/teaching.

Treppen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122337510#Comment_122337510

That's insane, how did they find out you got sick during the holidays? I'd be telling them nothing.

flyer_query

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122243221#Comment_122243221

Just to clarify SNA are different to teachers, different responsibilities, different contracts, different skill set, different qualifications so obviously SNAs can’t pick and choose what parts of a teachers contract they want to follow.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122337510#Comment_122337510

I think some teachers in those circumstance, and who physically can, game the system by making sure to go into work the day before a long holiday and come back in the first day after. You might not have been able to, or else were not aware. But I think there is something similar around weekends which is why the Teachers tend not to strike on Mondays or Fridays?