Gemma O'Doherty major public meltdown

Shan Doras

LOL, hasn't seen this until now, funniest video I've seen in ages

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GtOTzkcHrNQ

Beta Ray Bill

Don't think it's funny to be honest.
She's totally "out there", spreading an awful message. She might even need medical help.

She spent a long time protesting outside Google over her YT account being suspended and eventually closed.

I know for a fact Google management had meetings with the Garda and local politicians about the antics of her and her followers, yet were unwilling to do anything about it, which is unusual.

No one want's to f**k with her. her late husband/partner was a journalist and I'm guessing she has access to some piece of evidence/documentation that could cause all sorts of issues for government.

Everlong1

I for one welcome our new Marxist overlords.

2smiggy

no, nothing at all funny in that

Frumy

When was this video though? Maybe 7 years ago? More? I always think context is important. She's not everyones cup of tea but she has done amazing work in exposing serious corruption and child abuse in this country. People always throw the baby out with the bathwater. People forget the good people have done as soon as they do something bad this extreme dichotomous thinking is a real problem in society. There are shades and colours to everything.

Take for example the Terenure college paedophile John McClean. The victims of this man came out on video and openly admitted without Gemma O Doherty they might never have seen justice on this issue if at all.

Frankly these paedophile monsters going behind bars is a good thing regardless of who gathers all the evidence and interviews the victims.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gYNTGv7cUQM

Shan Doras

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222230#Comment_122222230

FFs, She is 1000x more nuts now than when that video was recorded

Cienciano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222230#Comment_122222230

Problem is that she now calls everyone she doesn't like a pedophile. If she came across legitimate pedophiles now, no one would believe her.

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222230#Comment_122222230

Yeah absolutely. I mean everyone talks about all the bad Hitler has done but no one brings up how his govt set up VW which loads of people benefit from and use today.

We should definitely excuse the bad stuff people do and remember the good stuff

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222267#Comment_122222267

No she doesn't, there are other pig ignorant idiots who do that but not her. She's far far too shrewd to be that stupid.

People forget she won a serious payout and an apology from Independent newspapers 10 years ago. Not an easy thing to do but the apology is below. Someone who understands the media inside out and is able to sue their past employer, win, get them to apologize and pay out is suddenly going to put themselves in the firing line for defamation calling everyone she doesn't like a pedophile? Nah, I don't buy that.

'Independent Newspapers wish to acknowledge the exceptional work of multi-award winning investigative journalist Gemma O’Doherty for the Irish Independent during the course of a lengthy career.

Independent Newspapers accept that Gemma O’Doherty has acted at all times in a professional and diligent manner and in the best interests of Independent Newspapers.

Independent Newspapers unreservedly apologise to Ms O ‘Doherty for the stress and hardship caused to her and her husband as a result of its actions.

Independent Newspapers have agreed to pay to Ms O’Doherty undisclosed damages and to indemnify her in relation to her legal costs'

Birneybau

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222178#Comment_122222178

Haha, evidence/documentation

Hahahahahahahahaha

ToweringPerformance

She obviously has very serious mental health issues and i don't like to make fun of people like that. Best close this thread imo.

Boggles

Another example of how it is next to impossible to get someone sectioned in this country.

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222260#Comment_122222260

I can't pass judgement on others mental state it's not my place to do so as I don't know, neither do you.

So when was it recorded so?

Does facts and context not mean anything to you at all no? Absolutely nothing. Obviously not.

Lillyfae

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222260#Comment_122222260

Not familiar with the OP but is this maybe a thinly-veiled attempt at upping the view count for the clip? Obvs GO'D is a bit mad but this is very vanilla compared to some of her other high jinx

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222281#Comment_122222281

To go straight to the Adolf Hitler comparison is the incredibly immature absurd silly dichotomous thinking I mentioned earlier; thanks for the very blatant example of this.

Feisar

Did she not go off the rails after her husband died? It's no excuse however maybe it's help she needs rather than condemnation?

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222297#Comment_122222297

No she doesn't, there are other pig ignorant idiots who do that but not her. She's far far too shrewd to be that stupid.

Eh, she literally does it in the video linked above. Time mark 1:19:

"I can't believe the Irish would be that stupid. They're voting for pedophiles, basically".

z80CPU

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222178#Comment_122222178

Unusual for Google, but not for Garda or Irish politicians to deal with her case like that - rest of your post is valid though

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222377#Comment_122222377

Seems so and whilst I criticize the far right in Ireland as much as anyone I also know that many people (often women) never really fully recover after their long term spouse dies. Usually a form of long term post traumatic stress disorder.

Therefore I personally don't agree with the pile ons to a widow who may be mentally unwell. It's vindictive. Who knows what someone else is going through, no one.

Yet as a society we deem it perfectly acceptable to abuse those that irk us or we don't agree with. Their abuse is wrong our abuse is perfectly fine! It's ever so bizarre that.

MrStuffins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222230#Comment_122222230

Jimmy Saville raised loads of money for charity. Do you think this should be takeninto consideration when talking about his crimes?

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222267#Comment_122222267

With people like this, its usually projecting their own activities onto others.

Cienciano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222297#Comment_122222297

She's literally doing it in the video in the original post.

Brussels Sprout

The description on that video "having a bipolar episode" is probably not too wide off the mark.

She's definitely not right in the head. Doesn't excuse her vile behaviour though. There's plenty of people out there with MH problems who aren't going around shouting abuse at foreigners and telling scurrilous lies about a dead child against the wishes of his mother.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222444#Comment_122222444

Not nearly as vindictive and as much of a pile on as Gemma is responsible for, including to grieving families. Strange you have no concern for them.

If this is how her mental issues manifest, there are some dark character traits manifesting there.

There is simply no excuse for such vindictiveness and needs to be combatted with ridicule if necessary. Lest it encourages others.

While she carries out such an abusive campaign in public the behaviour needs to be called out for being reprehensible.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222444#Comment_122222444

Therefore I personally don't agree with the pile ons to a widow who may be mentally unwell. It's vindictive. Who knows what someone else is going through, no one.

She doesn't seem to have an issue with piling on a bereaved mother in the most horrific way though does she?

If she wants to rant and rave at traffic or shout incoherently at builder in a high vis, then she can fill her boots.

She doesn't get to do what she wants because she is mentally unwell.

its_steve116

How does that Mark McCabe song go again?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222267#Comment_122222267

She's also effectively responsible for deaths as a result of her rhetoric around vaccines and COVID.

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222486#Comment_122222486

Does she mention names? Does she identity anyone in any way?

I thought not

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222512#Comment_122222512

I don't think she can pile on though she's a one woman band. A pile on is multiple people all at once. Hard for a loner to do that you know 😉

Cienciano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222599#Comment_122222599

Does she call people pedophiles in the video? Yes. Makes broad sweeping statements about pedophiles all being voted in.

It's a common MO for people like her. She is against everyone in power and can't come up with logical reasons why. If she calls them all pedophiles she can justify it to herself. Because everyone is against pedos, right? It's called being delusional

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222599#Comment_122222599

Look, the claim was that she unjustly calls her opponents pedophiles. You said she doesn't ever, it was pointed out to you that she's doing exactly that in the video. Now you're shifting the goalposts, claiming it doesn't count if she's not naming individuals.

This is known as the No True Scotsman fallacy. It's fairly typical of lacklustre apologists for unjustifiable causes, so don't feel bad about playing it - we all saw it coming and you were destined to do so. But it's playing a losing hand, you've lost the argument, and no-one needs to take you seriously in your support of her now.

As far as I'm aware Gemma O'Doherty used to be a rational being and not the madcap version we see today.

She's not well at all.

Sunny Disposition

Yeah, I don't think she is well. And while she shouldn't be encouraged in any way, she is more to be pitied than ridiculed.

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222817#Comment_122222817

'Look, the claim was that she unjustly calls her opponents pedophiles'

Opponents? You do realize she isn't a politician? Moving goalposts? Says you who completely fabricates someone's job to suit their narrative! She was never an elected politician in fact so how are politicians her opponents? Don't feel bad we all saw it coming and you were destined to do so. But it's playing a losing hand, you've lost the argument, and no-one needs to take you seriously now. 😉

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222884#Comment_122222884

An utterly disingenuous post. If they aren't her opponents why is she going around insulting them and campaigning against them? Semantic games are an obvious sign you've lost the argument and you know it.

So anyone can go around saying that some of Gemma O'Dohertys supporers are paedos. I'm going to say that you are a Gemma O'Doherty supporter, of at least some of her agenda, as is obvious from your posts jumping to her defence while showing zero concern for the victims of her conduct. We're not going to name which of them are though. So neither directly implicate you by name OR exonerate you.

But that's all grand according to the logic in your earlier post, because nobody has actually named which of her supporters are paedos. Can just leave that insinuation hanging there, with you in scope of it. They haven't unjustly named anyone as a paedo. This is all based on the 'logic' expressed by you in your posts in defending Gemma going around casting aspersions about paedo politicians - so it would be utterly hypocritical for you to object to such an insinuation against yourself.

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222884#Comment_122222884

That you would think even for a second that politicians are the only people with opponents is - quite frankly - entirely disengenious. Transparently so. When I said not to feel bad about playing such a losing hand, I didn't mean to keep doing it.

You're done on this one Frumy. Sorry.

elperello

G O'Doherty may not have been an elected politician but it wasn't for want of trying.

She sought nomination to run for President.

She stood in a European Parliament election and ran in twice for election to Dail Eireann.

She also went about setting up some sort of political party.

Safe to describe her as a political activist.

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223084#Comment_122223084

Sorry, Frumy. But no, just… no. You've driven your coach-and-four down a rhetorical cul-de-sac, and hit a brick wall. Time to stop cracking the whip and reverse gingerly.

Maybe you'll have better luck with another approach. But do try to put more effort in next time. I mean subtle effort, not… whatever that post was.

MrStuffins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223084#Comment_122223084

Word games won't help you here.

The claim you made was that she wasn't calling people she didn't like paedophiles.

She does, quite reguarly, and she quite clearly did in the video.

Pretty simple.

fuzzy dunlop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222370#Comment_122222370

Whatever happened to Godwins Law? Oh yeah that's right people started disagreeing with the establishment so spurious claims of fascism had to be allowed in the absence of reasonable argument.

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222932#Comment_122222932

I'm not a Gemma O Doherty supporter no perhaps you good for you. I don't even know what it means to be a 'supporter' of a journalist. I thought you could just read what they wrote define supporting a journalist? Like how do you support her?

The only person I have ever seen her name as a paedophile is John McClean who was convicted in a court of being one. If you have evidence on the contrary please provide it. If she named politicians they could sue her quite easily and win quite easily as you well know.

It's interesting to note the victims of John said without her he would have never faced justice. Bizarrely and alarmingly people like you have a real problem with her naming and getting serial paedophiles convicted as I've never seen her mention names apart from his and only his and he was convicted of being one! I mean it should be easy to find other names considering she records her livestreams and interactions no less so you must have plenty of people she accuses of these heinous things by name. If you have evidence on the contrary please provide it and I will gladly be corrected; you being a supporter of hers won't find it hard to find such videos.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gYNTGv7cUQM

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223212#Comment_122223212

Your posts demonstrate otherwise, or else why are you jumping in trying to defend her and her reprehensible conduct?

It talks like a duck etc etc and if someone posts like a supporter of hers, then it is reasonable to state that.

You're trying to contradict actual video evidence of her going around accusing politicians of being paedos. If she had any actual evidence why hasn't she presented it? She has none and she knows it, so she is just casting aspersions, and here you are, defending her ability to tarnish the reputation of all politicians with such slurs. Clearly the actions we would expect from a Gemma O'Doherty supporter.

Desperate stuff. You've lost that argument entirely so now you've resorted to whataboutery and semantic games.

And as multiple posters have pointed out, your semantic games have completely failed also with nonsense about 'opponents' - she is a failed politician who stood for election. Again, clearly the actions we would expect from a Gemma O'Doherty supporter, trying to drag the thread down a semantic rathole.

If you are not a Gemma O'Doherty supporter \ defender, then maybe you should reflect on what you are doing here with your posts.

So she's clearly going around calling people paedos, rolling out semantics and whataboutery isn't going to convince anyone otherwise when the evidence is there for all to see.

MrStuffins

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223212#Comment_122223212

Cool.

And will you also confirm that she accuses people of being "paedophiles" in the video?

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223212#Comment_122223212

I'm not a Gemma O Doherty supporter

Gregor Samsa

Lets be very clear here @Frumy: this is what you regard as "journalism".

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223267#Comment_122223267

Yawn. So you have no evidence of names aside from the one paedophile she did name and she did help get convicted by being the only person to get together and interview all his victims (those that are still alive) I stand by my point. She's too cute/shrewd to name names and when she does she damn well has the evidence like that Terenure College paedophile John McClean.

the whole people thing? My point on that was incredibly simple but again you twist and manipulate it. I was simply stating if no one is named no one is slandered or defamed. I'm not saying what she did is right or wrong or whatever I'm simply stating this is the case. Which it is!

I'm no fan of the far right in fact I even started a thread proving 'The Irish People's party is full of thugs and criminals but wouldn't her 'supporters' support these 'nationalist' or 'far right' parties? Why not?

Her supporters are all left wing now is it? Gimme a break.

What you people desperately fail to understand is my point on dichotomous thinking, seeing everything in extreme black and extreme white. I can agree with her on some things and disagree with her massively on other things but you all fail to realize that.

mikethecop

Any one saying anything positive about this nasty unhnged creature is really outing them selfs

people who think she is a legitimate political or journalistic voice are heading down the same **** rabbit hole that she is trapped in

she is is clearly in need of long term mental health treatment and possibly isolation as she has been the cause of at least one death and likely more

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223386#Comment_122223386

Are you still trying to deny she was calling politicians paedos? Desperate stuff.

The hill you're going to stand and fight on defending Gemma O'Doherty is that she didn't name them?

Where's her evidence then?

It is plain in not naming them, aspersions are cast about all politicians.

It is still a scurrilous conduct, and you defend it.

So you agree it is ok to go around with such scurrilous accusations without evidence? Grand. I think we can all see the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of her tactics and your posts defending them.

And they are her opponents, she stood for election and lost. Another desperate semantic argument you tried and abjectly failed to make stick in her defence.

So exactly as I wrote in my earlier post, you are a supporter of at least some of her agenda.

And here you are defending her scurrilous tactics.

And you've expressed exactly zero concern for the victims of her conduct, either these scurrilous rumours OR her other vindictive campaign against grieving families.

And yes, it is very simple to see what your are doing here.

You said "I'm not saying what she did is right or wrong."

Well why not? That would be "incredibly simple" to do, but nope, all we get are semantics and whataboutery.

So by not doing so, and engaging in such tactics, the impression you create is that you think such conduct is ok, and it is entirely reasonable to criticise your posts along those lines.

scottser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223382#Comment_122223382

Jaysus, that's a lot of crazy right there.

Jews started the famine… she should really google 'The British Relief Organisation'.

Frumy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122223426#Comment_122223426

And you've expressed exactly zero concern for the victims of her conduct-

What victims?

Like 'expressing concern' for victims on a online forum is going to do what exactly anyway?

Do you honestly think people have nothing better to do than read boards.ie? People have life's you know!

Perhaps you can 'express concern' for the victims of the Terenure college abused boys?

You currently have expressed zero concern now that I think about it

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2023/02/24/former-terenure-college-coach-john-mcclean-jailed-for-four-years-for-sex-attacks/

Gregor Samsa

More of what @Frumy regards as "journalism"