The decline of SF?

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122271942#Comment_122271942

Accounting, customer service also.

It'll take any driving job also.

No housing crisis when there's high unemployment.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272028#Comment_122272028

You have high expectations for AI, which at the moment the AI boom is based on a fancy online tool which people can ask questions to.

In accounting machine learning has already been in play for years, will it reduce accountants much more? not a huge job loss

Customer service has chat bots for donkey years, it will make them a little better but won't be mass replacement

We are at least 10 year and more from AI driven cars, even then it has huge concerns over insurance etc and I doubt it will have a huge impact for closer to 20 years

Maybe, if you are going to make predictions on AI, you might research it.

You seem desperate for mass unemployment, not sure why anyone would be wishing for that, people losing their jobs etc

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272062#Comment_122272062

We'll have to see I guess.

Self driving cars are already here. They're not 10 or 20 years away. You might want to research that.

I'm not wishing for unemployment, just saying the housing crisis is a symptom of economic success and might be short lived.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272170#Comment_122272170

To have nobody driving the car is 10+ years away. I think you need to take your own advice

Yes you are wishing for unemployment and a crash. Fairly common opinion to be honest, people hate others doing well or even worse doing better than them, the old Irish mentality of "bring them down a peg or two"

If you think AI is going to drive that well you are sadly mistaken.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272231#Comment_122272231

It won't happen overnight. It'll be a transition with lots of speed bumps along the way, but it will happen eventually.

We'll see how Waymo scale in next few years. They're already doing food delivery, the boot opens with a pizza inside. This might just be a trial though.

I work in IT so obviously I'm not wishing for huge layoffs of IT workers, I'm just saying it could easily happen in next 5 years.

I'm just predicting that the housing crisis will be over in 5 years cos of high unemployment.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272028#Comment_122272028

Well, this is going to be a world wide issue. It will effect countries like China more than the West.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122271245#Comment_122271245

You need to change the mantra to catch up with the latest statistics. FG and FF have been clever, the Help to Buy scheme and others have created record numbers of first-time buyers. They are people that will consistently turn up to vote and turn up to vote for the stability that FF and FG offer.

So the parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts will see the next generation buying houses like they did, thanks to FF and FG.

Yes, in social housing areas, it is different, but they never voted for FF and FG, and they never tend to vote.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273108#Comment_122273108

This is how feel.

The stability of FG and FF is too attractive for a lot of people who have a lot to lose.

If you've appreciating assets, you're not going to risk it on socialists (I know SF aren't really socialists).

Also if you look at a population pyramid of Ireland, there's a bulge of people from 35 to 50ish. The majority of these people will have bought their house and settled down.

There's also a lot of talk recently about the transfer of wealth from the boomer generation who will be dying off now. This might help the next gen but property.

All FG and FF have to do is win the majority of the middle class votes and working people who just want stability.

I bet this will be their strategy.

They can use Mary Lou's quote about €300,000 houses against her.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273650#Comment_122273650

What is also relevant to those people is the talk that Sinn Fein have made on capital taxes, increasing CGT, and abolishing CAT allowances.

https://www.sinnfein.ie/a-fair-tax-system

Their current policy on tax is thin to say the least, but also so vague as to make people fear tax increases.

If you own a house in Dublin, you would be wise not to vote for Sinn Fein, as your descendants will be paying a lot of tax on it when you die.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122272749#Comment_122272749

100%.

It's difficult to foresee how big of a problem it will be right now.

I think the major problem will be how quickly it could happen.

In 10 years time truck drivers, taxi drivers and delivery drivers could be obsolete.

That's a lot of jobs right there.

Also how many people will bother buying a car if you can just get a robotaxi when you need it?

This will take millions of car manufacturing and sales jobs in Europe. Germany's economy would collapse without it's car industry.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273681#Comment_122273681

It's already happening. Nine businesses in the Blanchardstown area using drone delivery.

orangerhyme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273688#Comment_122273688

Waymo is gradually scaling.

We'll have to see where they are in 2 or 3 years.

Will they just licence the technology globally? If so, it'll scale rapidly.

There's so much research in self-driving right now, you'd assume 2 or 3 companies will be scaling rapidly within 5 years.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273688#Comment_122273688

I was in the Blanchardstown fire station for an event and they ordered in just to show how it works, was interesting concept and it has a novelty value but even with the short distance from the centre to fire station they said when they tried to use previously the order was cold.

The original claim was it would take any driving job, which is a huge list of jobs and hence why it will be 10 years + at a minimum.

In terms of self driving technology, it is actually a Irish company(HQ in Ireland now) that I expect to win the race, Aptiv.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122274082#Comment_122274082

https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/transport/2023/10/12/dubai-begins-testing-of-driverless-vehicles-on-public-roads/

The technology is already under trial.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122274312#Comment_122274312

They are doing it in the US again as well. People are still in the car

To have a full driverless vehicle will be 10 years away

pureza

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122274348#Comment_122274348

You can get a driverless taxi in california,not sure about other states

But they are definitely on the road in America

Bobtheman

I think SF know they will do better at a GE. Anybody hoping for a left wing led coalition better hope they do. I predict they will get 16%. Which might not be enough. Personally because of their blanket acceptance of the IRA violence In the north I won't vote for them.

But basically you vote FG/FF you are voting for the same **** health service but the only real way that will improve is radical reform plus higher taxes.

Bobtheman

Unfortunately though the atvastic them vs US is now unleashed. While the far right had a so so outing in the locals expect parties to be promoting dropping out of the migration pact.

I don't think immigration is the biggest issue in the state or second one but in a lot of people's mind it is.

Thus a lot of parties without a credible health or housing policy will be making headway

Francis McM

Will be interesting next week to see the difference in the fortunes of SF in the election in N.I., considering their big disappointments in the elections here. Will the weak leadership of Michelle O'Neill - who would not take part even in a tv debate - and the ex head of the UK nurses union not being allowed, or unwilling, to condemn the sectarian murder of her fellow innocent nurses. Interesting times.