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Eamon Ryan announces he is stepping down as Green Party Leader

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  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭Banzai600


    you have to hand it to Ryanair, ppl are always talking about them…..clever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭NSAman


    they know the Greens are finished. Time to bow out when the going is good, you’ve ruined the country, taken as much tax and squandered it, left the country in a mess financially and socially. It’s not just Eamoan but FFG SF.

    Kylies number one fan started, many more will follow, zero consequences and tax payer funded life forever!



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,450 ✭✭✭✭markodaly




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,450 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Hard to build a motorway from scratch in less than 5 years

    Your posts are a hilarious mix of gibberish and foaming of the mouth rage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    Not hard to get the ball rolling and not place obstacles in path of growth of the country

    The greens are anti growth and clearly don’t have the interests of the electorate in mind hence why they got wiped out



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,450 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The M20 is at Design Stage at the moment, if you are bothered to look. There has been a lot of progress on it over the past few years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    So was the Galway bypass, look where that is now



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭jamesd


    Might get back to cutting some turf again, instead of exporting our Peat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭crossman47


    That's exactly it. A politician of principle who should be admired but instead was attacked by vested interests who couldn't care less about their childrens future,



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,727 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It used to be funny to read the crazy anti-Green nonsense, however it has become worrying.

    People are forgetting the sustainable challenge. We are using up the world's resources at an unsustainable rate.

    Public transport has to be the priority over roads. Clean air in city centres through removing cars is vitally important.

    These changes are uncomfortable, I don't like having them, but they are necessary.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,450 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Eamon Ryan had no baring on the outcome of the Galway bypass.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,716 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The greens are more interested in cycle lanes that nobody uses than practical solutions to climate issues.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Sonic the Shaghog


    And then turned around and told the country we'll all have to chip in with a "small price to pay" for ridiculously expensive offshore gas storage when reality hit home



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Get out of it. This guy's whole "green policies" mantra was to tax average Joe more. That was it. Id love to know how much more a year I'm paying out of my pocket because of this clown.



  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭Highlighter75


    The South County Dublin vegan virtue signallers have a leadership competition.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Cycle lanes definitely cause pollution and congestion cos they slow down people in their cars.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    traffic lights do that, and more traffic

    not cycle lanes



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared


    There is a 10km segregated from main road and well paved wide cycle path nearby build before current gov got in power

    I never seen cyclists on it, the weekend Lycra brigade still use the main road blocking traffic



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,151 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Floppybits




  • Registered Users Posts: 27,727 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I am not the biggest fan of cycle lanes, but I have to admit, where the proper cycling lane infrastructure is put in place, the number of cyclists increases.



  • Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Sonic the Shaghog


    If they are anyways bothered about being green they'd be banning the likes of glyphosate and coming up with, while annoying, low cost solutions instead of driving everyone into poverty.

    I always thought if they were so bothered about cars for example they could mandate people are only licenced to drive a 1 litre petrol unless they can show stronger need, like tradesmen or families over x amount of kids. It would be a damn site better having the option of a 2nd hand Yaris than HAVING to try and come up with the price of a new electric car.

    Even things such as mandating homeowners can only cut the lawn in September and have to let lawns be habitats, while ensuring fines for anyone trying to gravel or concrete over the lawns out of spite gets massive fines. Like the councils with public areas or farmers in green schemes.

    Something effective not just tax, tax tax.

    Look at EU level, renewed Mosantos license for glyphosate for 10 years cause you know well green is for the little guys to pay.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,154 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I agree. When they're put in with actually some though like in Blackrock or Wyattville Road in South Dublin they're a benefit everyone, motorists included. Here you got segregated lanes so you don't end up playing leap frog with cyclist when you're driving.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,727 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    There are no low cost solutions to going green, that is the issue that so many refuse to face. We have exploited the planet cheaply, fixing it costs money, doing thing sustainably costs money.

    Everyone will have to pay more for ordinary stuff, living standards will level out.

    On a much broader perspective, if the planet is to be fixed in an equal and fair manner over the next 100 years, living standards will have to fall in Ireland to allow the poorer parts of the world to catch up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,288 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    This is not good news.

    One can debate his policies and disagree all you want, but this is (yet) another politician stepping down while quoting "vile attacks" and "divisive politics" as reasons.

    There do seem to be an awful of TDs stepping away. It seems like the job is not getting any easier.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,716 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    You'd think so but I've seen a number of large scale cycling infrastructure projects around over the last few years and the result after millions of euro spent is narrower traffic lanes resulting in greater build up of traffic and more pollution. The cyclists haven't materialised mostly because people who were driving prior to the new road layouts still need to drive now, mainly because public transport is still rubbish.

    The fact that most of these routes are not going into the city makes things worse, sections of random roads in the suburbs are "upgraded" that lead back to roads with little to no cycling infrastructure, usually the busier routes with the most cyclists.

    It's the stupid approach that annoys people, not the fact that cycling infrastructure is being built.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Most of the policies don't seem very green,, these wind farms are a joke,, materials and the maintenance going into them, investing in a technology that's not there yet, nuclear is the green option,battery cars etc,,if they were worried about the planet it would be keep existing cars running for as long as possible, not make them disposable,,birth control is the most effective way to slow the increase in the use of worlds resources, but that wouldn't suit their pension plans ,, alot of their "policies" are populist/ self serving and don't stand up to scrutiny.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,845 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I know your post is well-intentioned as an example of some alternatives but the 2 examples you cite are as bad if not worse than what is currently on the table.

    Limiting people to 1L cars unless they can prove to the State that they need/deserve to drive a bigger/better one (no doubt at even higher premiums/tax rates than they cost now) and trying to tell people when they can mow their garden and that they must leave it as a wild unkept forest for flies, bugs and what not on their doorstep is frankly socialist overreach fantasy.

    It's even more unpallatable when all this is meaningless on a global scale. Ireland is a country of 5 million people - less than many major cities. This notion peddled by the Greens that we must prostrate ourselves on the altar of environmentalism to save the planet or lead the way is ideological nonsense. We're neither that important nor influential and so long as the big global players (at country and company levels) can do pretty much whatever they want, very little will change.

    The way we'll get out of this "crisis" (quotation marks very much intentional!) is through technological advancement, and I don't mean forcing everyone into 50/60k electric cars which are just as bad if not worse in their own way for the planet. Cleaner industry, manufacturing improvements, more efficiencies etc - not taxing the end user into oblivion while berating them at how the planet will burn if they don't just suck it up and pay up or live like peasants.

    The sooner the rest of Ryan's party join him in their rightful place of political irrelevency the better.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭Nordner


    Dlighted that Ryan is resigning. The Green Party are a shambles.

    Welcoming in foreign corporations to exploit our 'green' energy sector while heaping carbon taxes, solid fuel bans, useless heat pumps and expensive retro fits on ordinary people who are already struggling.

    They had a chance at a Fair Transition but they totally lost it. They could have introduced some Public Private Partnership schemes to allow citizens invest in Green Energy projects and have a share and a stake in things. But, no, everything is geared towards private sector companies, foreign utility giants and pension funds to make a killing out of it all. No doubt plenty councillors and T.D's with the inside track pocketing dividends too.

    Champagne Climate activists the lot of them!



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