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If Ireland had First past the post?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Pman


    I wish it had FPTP. We need one politcian accountable for one constituency. Where all your 4 or 5 TDs are non governement or even government who you can never hold accountable for an issue in the one constituency. They all take credit for whatever initiative materialises so what is the point. The original intention of the directly elected mayor in Limerick was to see what one representative could achieve. However , it ended up a carbon copy of the previous role.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,186 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Where all your 4 or 5 TDs are non governement or even government who can you ever hold accountable for an issue in the one constituency

    This makes no sense. You are far, far more likely to have a non-government TD in your constituency in FPTP who can do absolutely sod all and will still claim credit for things they couldn't possible achieve.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    This includes transfers of power between the actual people involved in a civil war where prisoners were executed for revenge.

    In our system our main parties can concentrate on the centre consensus and not pander to the extremes whose parties could still join a coalition and have some of their views taken on board.

    We have multiple seat constituencies and 'devil take the hindmost' as a filtering mechanism. In most constituencies it's only the last seat that's being seriously contested. At the same time there's almost no safe seats that an unpopular candidate can be parachuted it.

    The best part of our system is that the voter only has to rank the politicians in order of choice rather than second-guess who is the ONE person most likely to beat a candidate who is likely to get elected but you don't want to.

    In the UK and US FPTP leads to all-or-nothing situations where during the first term the new government spends a lot of it's time and effort reversing the policies of the previous one. At great financial cost to the taxpayer. In the UK look at the the whole privatisation/nationalisation flip flops.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,451 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    In 2015 in Belfast South the SDLP got less than 25% of the vote. It swaps between the SDLP and DUP now, but was a UUP seat and this time out Alliance might come second with a possible win in future if both SF and SDLP stand. Or if the SDLP didn't stand SF might take it.

    So it's all over the shop.

    It would be better as part of a multi-seat constituency.

    On the other hand roughly a third of the seats in the UK are safe seats where in a normal year anything with the right colour rosette would win.

    Or look at when Teresa May in 2017. The Tories got 318 MPs (including the Speaker) out of 350. With SF's 7 MPs abstaining she'd have only needed 322 for a Majority.

    She was 93 votes short out of an electorate of 46,836,533 which led to the DUP coming on board and resulted in a hard Brexit.

    20 Kensington

    21 Perth and North Perthshire

    22 Dudley North

    30 Newcastle-Under-Lyme

    next up was 47 Crewe and Nantwich



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