Manchester United Thread 2024/25 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

KH25

That Kambwala deal seems surprisingly sensible having the buy-back included. I thought he did well when he played last year so if he kicks on at Villareal its nice to know we will have the clause in place.

Quags

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374595#Comment_122374595

I imagine with United looking for two CB then it could be difficult for him to get the mins he wants. So 2 new CB, Martinez & Evan’s could slow him down plus maybe Maguire or Lindelof could stay

Quags

Interesting what happens with JB now

https://twitter.com/david_ornstein/status/1812062321058939360?s=46

Mitch Connor

Onana going to villa?? Ffs, we should be all over that. Painful.

bucketybuck

It may be that the club just don't think the ceiling for Kwambala is all that high, or that he himself is forcing the move, but I suspect a big part of it is that the club don't think they will be able to shift Maguire or Lindelof this summer. So they are taking the money for the one they can shift.

pjohnson

Tbf we have started being competent with youth sales last 12 months. We have a buy back clauses for both Kovar and Fernandez (who goes by Carreras now) aswell. We also have a matching clause for Carreras. I'm pretty sure we also have sell on clauses on each so even if we decide not to buy them we can still earn money if they go elsewhere.

So we are improving greatly in that way.

Bleating Lamb

Club have been trying to resolve the contract situation impasse for months with Kambwala,so they obviously took proactive action when it looked that he wanted away.

Weird but very encouraging to see the club begin to be proactive during a transfer window.With him gone it gives them an opportunity to work hard on either exits for Maguire and Lindelof although their wages will be a huge stumbling block to moving on either of them.

Cotts72

Interesting links to Toney and Xavi Simons today. Simons with a loan to buy deal would be smart business

El Gato De Negocios

I'd love Toney but considering he'll have zero resale value, the likely very hefty fee Brentford would want doesn't make any fiscal sense.

Cotts72

Unless it's a low fee with a year left on his contract, yeah it's not very attractive. Maybe send a player that qay

Bounty Hunter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375129#Comment_122375129

it’s been reported that although they are looking for around 60m it’s widely expected they’d take 40m so as not to lose him for nothing.

Iseedeadpixels

I'd love a player like Toney just not him, terrible attitude and like I said before I'd finally like some drama free players.

Mitch Connor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375055#Comment_122375055

I think both are dumb.

We have rasmus and zirkzee. Adding Toney to that means one if them barely plays and becomes a massive waste if money.

We have Bruno and Mount to play where Simmons does. Unless we are selling Bruno it doesn't make sense.

We need a CM partner for mainoo. We need arguable need a second (assuming we're signing mdl) cb, we arguable need a left back and second deep cm, abd a right back. All before we look at a third striker or third AM.

xtal191

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374622#Comment_122374622

https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1812075946133922039

Time to move on from Branthwaite, he'll cost stupid money now

FourFourRED

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375225#Comment_122375225

Yoro looks to be the plan B for not getting Branthwaite. Whether he agrees to move is another question. Could easily hold out a year and move to Madrid for free.

If we could get a decent deal done for Toney I don’t see the issue. The team needs more goals and adding Zirkzee is probably not the full solution for that. Zirkzee looks a great plan if we have runners alongside him who will score goals. Unless Rashford steps up, we don’t really have it.

You can still get all 3 decent game time across a full season with bringing them off from the bench for impact to try see out games that we weren’t able to do last season. Remember how awful the bench looked for most games.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375225#Comment_122375225

Was costing stupid money already! 30m max is what he's worth.

DM_7

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122374633#Comment_122374633

Why?

If United want to be possession dominant I am not sure he is the type of player that is going to be taking the ball and progressing play or slotting back into a back 3 in longer build up phases.

Cotts72

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375177#Comment_122375177

Not necessarily in the case of Simons, I think he offers something different to Bruno and Mount and adds pace behind the striker. If we were to potentially move Sancho on hes another wing option on top of it. A loan to buy works in the office chance Bruno moves on the year after

Mitch Connor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375541#Comment_122375541

Neither is ugarte, the only cm we've seriously been linked to.

We will have martinez, dalot, Shaw and mainoo for progression. What we don't have is a cm to defend. We dont need some busquets unicorn, unless you can find one for about 50m....

We also lack physicality in the side, onana would provide an elite level of that. And beside mainoo that would be a huge bonus.

Also, whether we want to be possession dominant is questionable. We retained ETH, so more chaos ball is as likely. And none of the cbs we've been linked with are top level ball players.

Mitch Connor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375627#Comment_122375627

He may offer something different to Bruno, but we have Bruno and mount. Adding a third AM is an insane use of limited funds.

Imo are three priorities this summer should be

St (zirkzee)

Cb (mdl?)

CM (ugarte, maybe)

Those positions should be the minimum base. If we need to sell to fund anything else, those three should be done. After that I'd be looking at another deeper cm, another cb, a left back, maybe a right back. Don't see the logic in using limited funds to buy in positions we have reasonable depth and quality in.

y0ssar1an22

i dont remember this at all! 😂

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cyBqq4svMI8

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122377129#Comment_122377129

I do and the fume was glorious 🤣

Mitch Connor

In the pl ravenelli was banned from his shirt celebration 96.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122375055#Comment_122375055

Toney would be a gamble.

Iseedeadpixels

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/1812426985290998209?s=46&t=N3-66DPOwW8UCUMpcpTUjQ

Individual training.

Iseedeadpixels

Not stolen from reddit at all👀, pre match data for the Rosenborg match.

# Rosenborg BK vs Manchester United

Competition: Pre Season Friendly | Date: 15th July

Kick off: 17:00 BST | Venue: Lerkendal Stadion, Norway

Referee: Unconfirmed | TV: MUTV

Team News:

Possible starting XI:

-----------Onana--------

--AWB-Lindelof-Evans-Amass--

---Casemiro--Collyer----

--Amad---Mount--Rashford

----------Wheatley---

• The majority of the squad is still on holiday. None of the lads who featured at the Euros or the Copa America are expected to feature here.
• Jadon Sancho has returned to the squad but is not expected to play a part in this game, but will be available for selection from then on.
• Tyrell Malacia and Harry Maguire both still appear to be injured, both have reported back to Carrington neither pictured in team training.
• Willy Kambwala is due to sign for Villarreal so is unlikely to feature here.
• Youth players spotted in training:
• Finlay McAlister, James Scanlon, Toby Collyer, Elyh Harrison, Habeeb Ogunneye, Sonny Aljofree, Ethan Wheatley, Rhys Bennett, Maxi Oyedele, Sam Murray, Ethan Williams, Harry Amass, Joe Hugill, Dermot Mee

Injuries/Suspensions/Absentees:

| Player | Injury/Ban/Absence | Position | Return Date |
|:-:|:-:|:--:|:-:
Tyrell Malacia | Knee | LB | TBC
Harry Maguire | Calf | CB | TBC
Jadon Sancho | Fitness | LW | 20th July
Dan Gore | Shoulder | CM | TBC
Scott McTominay | EURO Holiday | CM | 28th July
Rasmus Hojlund | EURO Holiday | ST | 28th July
Christian Eriksen | EURO Holiday | CM | 28th July
Bruno Fernandes | EURO Holiday | CM | 1st August
Diogo Dalot | EURO Holiday | RB | 1st August
Altay Bayindir | EURO Holiday | GK | 1st August
Facundo Pellistri | COPA Holiday | RW | 10th August
Kobbie Mainoo | EURO Finalist | CM | 10th August
Luke Shaw | EURO Finalist | LB | 10th August
Tom Heaton | EURO Finalist | GK | 10th August
Alejandro Garnacho | COPA Finalist | LW | 10th August
Lisandro Martinez | COPA Finalist | CB | 10th August.

Iseedeadpixels

4pm

El Gato De Negocios

Confirmed now officially.

Iseedeadpixels

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/manchester-united-confirm-the-signing-of-joshua-zirkzee-from-bologna

Official :)

y0ssar1an22

1 thing i like about him is that after the euro's he came to do his medical, rather than having a few days on the beer. shows a good mentality.

NITRO95

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122379490#Comment_122379490

Ah I'm sure he has a trip to Belfast lined up already

y0ssar1an22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122379517#Comment_122379517

and happy days. just shows he has the right priorities. plenty of time for drinking after the medical and completion of transfer.

DM_7

First signing since INEOS is in. Probably carries a little extra pressure for him?

In terms of the signing a 23 year old, up and comer, that should (hopefully) be able to contribute straight away while improving, that had a release clause and could be at United for a good number of years fits the profile of signing that the club will need to be making. Should be a big upgrade on what Martial in terms of availability.

By the sounds of it he offers a lot of what Martial was able to bring tactically when he went through his all too brief periods of fitness.

Dwarf.Shortage

I won’t know what to do if Mainoo scores the winner for England. I’m so in his corner but it would also be cat.

FourFourRED

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122380294#Comment_122380294

Backed Spain before the tournament so have no interest in Mainoo or Shaw getting any winner 😁

Mantis Toboggan

Guehi surely a better buy than any of the other cb's we're linked with.

Dwarf.Shortage

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122380383#Comment_122380383

Wouldn’t want Shaw scoring a winner for them either, no chance. But there’s something about Mainoo’s meteoric rise that a winner at the Euro’s would just add to and he’d be coming into next season with a wet sail. Plus he’s just unusually likeable.

Mantis Toboggan

Masterclass from Shaw so far

Daroxtar

Was just about to type that. *When* he's fit and on form he's a bloody good footballer

y0ssar1an22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122380405#Comment_122380405

maguire being injured will have added 20m to his transfer fee unfortunately. a double whammy for us if trying to move on maguire.

FourFourRED

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122380512#Comment_122380512

I think Shaw is quite likeable as well. Seems fairly genuine and down to earth. Would still prefer my €90 than seeing them win it

el Fenomeno

Olmo has been fantastic. If it wasn't for our limited budget and his injury concern, he'd be a no brainer.

ngunners

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122380750#Comment_122380750

Shaw was decent tonight I thought, particularly first half. He doesn't seem fully fit so hopefully this tournament works as a preseason for him and he can stay fit next season.

BenK

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122381364#Comment_122381364

Feels like we've been here before...

AidoEirE

Well done to Kobbie Mainoo, what a year this kid has had. Should hold his head high, England's best player of the tournament for me.

Bleating Lamb

Shaw was very good for most of the game and understandably ran out of steam.Hopefully he brings that form into the beginning of the League season.

FourFourRED

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122381364#Comment_122381364

We need someone on his level as competition / rotation. Malacia may never reach the same levels again and if we’re honest with ourselves, the levels he showed when he did play, were not good. Happy enough to see two centre backs come in considering Varane, Kambwala & likely Lindelof leaving but I think it would be criminal not to sign a good left back.

bucketybuck

I know that I don't want to hear about Shaw having extra time off because of Englands run in the Euros. Since that probably means a slow start to the season for him.

Bring yourself back into training immediately if thats ok Luke. You have only 20 more games for United than Phil Jones has, no need to miss any more.

DM_7

Whatever about Shaw it was good that Kobbie got to play in such a huge game and to do well in the tournament overall. A good example tonight of why United need a footballer in midfield alongside him and not to be hoofing the ball over his head all the time.

Seeing Pedri is his leg brace is also a sign of why United need another midfield option so Mainoo is not overplayed. He has outrageous talent but is 19 and needs to be looked after.

FourFourRED

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122381906#Comment_122381906

Pedri was inured because of a tackle on him not as a result of being overplayed. Unless you think that young players shouldn’t be played as much because of potential injuries from being tackled by other players, which makes no sense at all.