Beef Welfare Scheme 2024

blue5000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485614#Comment_122485614

Organic here too, I don't think it's worth it. I only vaccinate for blackleg. Have they specified what vaccines have to be used yet?

Silverdream

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122485714#Comment_122485714

No I am going doing the scheme, the meal and vaccine are covered what I meant was I only get 8 euro for my effort compared to if I was conventional I'd be getting 21 euro for myself.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122486101#Comment_122486101

Yes, doing for blackleg covers you for the scheme.

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122486277#Comment_122486277

sorry when you said “I will just do the black leg” I thought you were skipping the meal.

Point of note is a lot of organic nuts/meal often don’t include mineral supplement. So will need to buy that seperate.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122486101#Comment_122486101

can you not just join it and don’t feed any meal ? I wasn’t asked for any meal dockets last year for the scheme or anything like that. Didn’t hear of anyone getting an inspection either.

Who2

I can see why lads can’t make money at sucklers if they are skimping on something as simple as a bit of creep feed pre weaning. Any lad suckling needs to be producing top stock and needs to be fed to its full potential. Grass from this time of year doesn’t have the protein to sufficiently push on weanlings. It takes the pressure off the cow and leaves her in good condition going into winter so she doesn’t have to be hard fed and you can sell your weanlings in their prime and moved early in the autumn before prices drop off. I’ve fed approximately 200 kg of meal fed to each of this years weanlings already which is less than 100 euros each and I’ve some bulls up on 400kg already one heifers calf weighed in at 408kg. These are the ones that will leave the most behind them.
there is absolutely no point in keeping sucklers unless you’re going to try breed as good as you can and then push them on. If you’re not then your probably better off buying an Angus or Hereford bull and let them do what they do and forget about them.

SuperTortoise

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122487054#Comment_122487054

Up until this year i would agree with you 100%, this year though has changed my opinion slightly.

Buyers for good cattle are getting scarce, they're just not willing to invest in a good animal, all they seem to want are very average stock bought cheaply.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122487054#Comment_122487054

Well said. I used to keep my weanlings onto store cattle and didn’t creep the calves. Changed the last two years and am getting almost the same money for weanlings that I was getting for store cattle with creep feeding the calves and cattle gone a lot earlier and finishing that my heifers for bulling are now better quality than ever.

Sami23

Are many of ye going to vaccinate for Pneumonia or just go with the cheaper option of clostridial vaccines ?

Katie 2018

I'm going with bovolis one shot vaccine for pneumonia. Working out around 3.20 euro a calf.hopefully that will cover me

limo_100

I went with bovipast rsp and blackleg. I had some of the calves done for both in the spring but I done the remainder last week. Will have to redo them in a few weeks. At the same time I will give the ones from the spring a booster also before weaning. I find the bovipast and the ibr vaccines non negotiable the last few years.

limo_100

How are lads getting on with feeding there weanlings just wondering are using creep feeders or feeding there calves a few kgs a day in a trough? I myself am using a creep feeder and the calves are milling the creep out of it in fairness

SimmentalT

Hi, does anybody know if you have to feed a targeted weanling ration? The t&c are a little vague. Thanks

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122582713#Comment_122582713

Same question, or if nuts will do.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122582741#Comment_122582741

Anything will do as you can purchase weanlings nuts.

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122583219#Comment_122583219

in Organics so didn’t have a big choice. Just got “organic beef nut”, there are no minerals so bought a liquid mineral seperate. Hopefully it would stand up to an inspection.

Sugarbowl

closing date for this was yesterday- completely forgot to apply unfortunately. No late applications it says in T and C. Is it worth contacting them or is it a definite no anyway?

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122653641#Comment_122653641

Definitely worth a call - nothing to lose.

SuperTortoise

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122653641#Comment_122653641

In a similar situation here, looked at the application 2 weeks ago,but cancelled before submitting, anyway looked again on Sunday and it had the option of "edit application" so presumed my planner had done it for me, only realised after the deadline that it recorded the date i viewed the application 2 weeks ago and i took it it was the day the application was made.

Submitted the application the following morning after the deadline and it went through, don't know if there will be any comeback, probably should ring.

Sugarbowl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122654470#Comment_122654470

did you ring Super Tortise? Any luck?

SuperTortoise

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122657081#Comment_122657081

No will ring tomorrow morning, I'll post here how I get on.