Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524453#Comment_122524453

They're working two jobs, that adds up to more than 100% right???

:)

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523941#Comment_122523941

I don't buy it. She may not have a fanatical manic base - but she has plenty of broad support - enough to get her over the line. However as the election draws nearer most of the undecideds will adopt the NEVER TRUMP stance and she will win be a significant margin (similar to how an unlikely Biden candidacy won both the popular vote and the EC).

Yvonne007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524487#Comment_122524487

I wasn't selling it 😀

It's purely my opinion.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523797#Comment_122523797

Saying Harris is dim when she is going against Trump…this isn't even a low level effort at taking the mick.

We can't/won't admit Harris is dim because there is no evidence to point to that.

You can just say you don't like her.

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524516#Comment_122524516

It started when @elrichbachman parroted a Trump line from one of his ramblings the previous evening - he's now trying to justify it as his original idea.

Its a bit sad really.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524558#Comment_122524558

There'll be a different parrot on duty tomorrow a.m..

Doc07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523797#Comment_122523797

a bit boring , vanilla, even a bit meh…maybe (and no harm in boring politicians, how the UK would have embraced a John Major type instead of the Boris / Liz shambles. And how the GOP would warmly embrace a George W Bush type now instead of the Donald clusterf&ck )

But Kamala dim? Seriously? Not specific to you but IMO if someone commits to making that assertion that Kamala is dim then I think the options for your critical appraisal are as follows ;

A:You are just having the craic,

B:You are a crank/troll

C: …or perhaps you may have a learning disability

…don’t shoot the messenger

ArmaniJeanss

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524590#Comment_122524590

Months ago, erlich posted that he likes DJT because "Trumps a bit of craic and trolls people good". So I suspect that you are on the right path with your A&B as the poster probably sees a bit of himself in Trump. Sadly though they aren't reasons which will have us expecting any imminent political insights or intelligent analysis.

accensi0n

Looking forward to 'the election was stollen' rants.

And the subsequent videos of armed republicans blocking democrat voters, and 100% of voter fraud cases actually being against republicans..

The Phantom Jipper

She is dumb as a rock, but at the same time also one of the puppetmasters secretly controlling Joe Biden and the country (or has that line been retired at this stage?)

ollkiller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524791#Comment_122524791

Ya right. Can't debate points so just resort to childish insults.

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524791#Comment_122524791

Welcome back, hope your stay is brief 👍️

lee_baby_simms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524791#Comment_122524791

haha

Sigma101

Decent article fact-checking statements by Biden and others at the DNC last night. When it comes to lies Trump obviously reigns supreme, but the Democrats aren't above bending the truth to catch a good sound bite.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-bidens-dnc-speech

ollkiller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524834#Comment_122524834

Ah ya got the homophonic slur in as well. Take a pic of the "lets own the libs" bingo card you're playing there.

I.R.Y.E.D

Some amount of projection going on in the last few posts

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524836#Comment_122524836

There's only one clown on show here.

Overheal

Looking at the last few pages it's clear the Dems had a fantastic night

Lewis_Benson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524834#Comment_122524834

Could you type that again please, but this time in English?

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122516577#Comment_122516577

Capitalism is supposed to be about competition between business, and this competition - this free marketplace - is supposed to benefit everyone because businesses must always be figuring out how to provide a product or service better and cheaper in order to stay on top.

You say that Capitalism always tends towards monopoly and price gouging. I agree, but this is true in the sense that all societal and economic systems are eventually gamed by people in order to figure out how to selfishly benefit them instead of wider society. These systems are a function of the humans which comprise them and so are inherently imperfect.

Like any competition, Capitalism needs a decent referee to adjudicate and ensure that the spirit of the thing is being adhered to. A big part of that is seeing that the free market is not made unfree by one massive competitor controlling the market and setting the rules.

If that doesn't happen, then what would eventually come about is that the worst excesses of Capitalism become the norm and people revolt, and would the resulting system be any better?

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524791#Comment_122524791

Neither do you, presumably.

Trump gets bashed because he's a walking slug. A selfish, joyless, criminal narcissist. A self-serving, egotistical, malignant sociopath and fraud. A cheat and a scab. A philanderer and a despicable sex offender.

Leaving aside the Mugabes and the Milosevics, the Ceausescus and the Pol Pots, the Honeckers and the Galtieris - Donald J. Trump could well be the worst example of humanity in a senior leadership position anywhere in the World in my entire lifetime.

And if you can't or won't see that, then perhaps this isn't the thread for you, chum.

Doc07

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524831#Comment_122524831

0.1/10 …try harder

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524832#Comment_122524832

That is pretty weak and a desperate attempt at false balance.

Several of them are "yes Trump said this but then said he wouldn't do it when people didn't like it". That's just his modus operandi - he lies to people's faces to tell them what they want cause he's terrified of conflict. This bit has to take to cake though

On Medicare, Trump has said during the 2024 presidential campaign that he will not cut the health care program for seniors.

During his presidency, Trump released four successive annual budgets that proposed cutting Medicare. 

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524887#Comment_122524887

You forgot to mention that he is also Putin plant who stole the 2016 election, tried to blow up the clouds, told people to inject bleach, called dead soldiers "suckers", farted and snoozed his way thru his latest court case, called white supremacists "fine people", lied 35,000 times whilst in office, appointed a rapist to the Supreme Court, tried to blow up George Floyd protesters so he could take a picture in a church, tried to overthrow the government, tried to hijack his own presidential limo on Jan 6th…I'm probably forgetting a few!!

I have to say, I am thoroughly enjoying this election cycle for pure entertainment….this thread alone is a great read!!

I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524864#Comment_122524864

Would seem to be the case

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524832#Comment_122524832

This doesn't read like it was written from a purely fact driven, non biased side.

Example:

Biden: “And you know, Trump will do everything to ban abortion nationwide.”

Since April, Trump has repeatedly said he believes abortion legislation should be “left up to the states.” Trump also told reporters in April that he wouldn’t sign a national ban.

As president, Trump endorsed a 20-week national abortion ban that House Republicans backed. Earlier in this election year, he floated support for 15- or 16-week federal abortion bans, news outlets reported.

Trump hasn’t said whether he supports other ways abortion could be restricted across the country, including using the Comstock Act to ban mailing abortion pills or other equipment used in abortion procedures.

This is if you take Trump at his word. I have no idea what he has done to deserve that. Think of the supreme court justices that voted against Roe Vs Wade, despite saying it was "settled law".

DNC video advertisement: Trump said, “There has to be some form of punishment” for women who have abortions.

Mostly False.

Trump made this comment during a March 2016 MSNBC town hall, but the ad failed to acknowledge that Trump walked back the comment the same day after facing criticism. He said it was doctors, not women, who should be punished for performing outlawed abortions.

In the years since he made that statement, we found no evidence that Trump has repeated it or that he currently supports penalties for women who get abortions.

But he did say it, so it's mostly true. The ad does not have to acknowledge that trump walked back the comment. It is a fact that he said it there and then. It was not a video manipulation.

Biden: “On (Trump’s) watch the murder rate went up 30 percent, the biggest increase in history.”

Half True.

The number of murders in the U.S. rose by 5,795 from 2019 to 2020, when Trump was president. That’s a jump of about 35 percent, making it the largest one-year increase since such data began being systematically recorded in the early 1960s.

However, crime data analysts generally attribute most of the reason for the murder spike to a confluence of the coronavirus pandemic and the social upheaval following George Floyd’s murder, not Trump’s actions.

The reason is neither here not there as that was not what was argued or stated. It was merely stated that the murder rate increased by over 30% while Trump was in charge.

It's a fact that the murder rate increased by 30+%, Trump may not have caused it through any direct action, but it was under his watch.

Biden: “We have 1,000 billionaires in America. You know what their average tax rate (is)? 8.2 percent.”

False.

Today, the richest Americans pay an effective tax rate of more than 20 percent on the income the government counts under the current tax code. Biden’s 8 percent figure compares their tax payments with an amount that includes income that is not currently taxed under law. This makes it a theoretical figure, not something anyone is supposed to pay under the law.

I find this one hilarious. They say it's false because it would only be 8% if they were taxed properly? It reads like if they didn't take advantage of all the loopholes and expensive accountants, they would pay 8% of their income as opposed to 20% of their taxable income.

Pull the other one.

weisses

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122524791#Comment_122524791

And you are posting in it … by doing so making you a . . . . .

sonofenoch

Her crowds are so enthusiastic …it's fun fun fun

https://twitter.com/i/status/1825903618844729827

Silentcorner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122525165#Comment_122525165

That's a disingenuous question to be asking Harris supporters, Harris was stashed away from the public for the last four years because she was even more unpopular than Biden…apart from the Border job that is….and to be fair, that didn't go well!!

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122525178#Comment_122525178

So doing your job is hiding now. Surprising.