Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

Sigma101 · 22-08-2024 02:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122531939#Comment_122531939

I agree with this. It's good to see so many people here in favour of taxing the rich in America. It's worth pointing out though that the corporation tax rate here is far lower. The only political party that I know of that is in favour raising corporation tax here is PBP. All of the major parties here are opposed to an increase. Surely Irish people who are in favour of the Democrats' raising the tax rate would vote for politicians here that promote similar policies?

Quin_Dub · 22-08-2024 02:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122531972#Comment_122531972

Yeah..It's not the fire that does the damage , it's the damn fire alarm.

Can we all just not be let die of smoke inhalation in our sleep like civilised people…

johnny_ultimate · 22-08-2024 02:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122531998#Comment_122531998

I know I certainly do.

22-08-2024 02:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122522624#Comment_122522624

Since vice president Kamala Harris has not released a policy page on her campaign website detailing her positions on key issues such as the economy and immigration. Trump created and released a platform website for her. "Kamala Harris has yet to tell voters what her policies are, so we thought we’d help them out. Kamala Harris wants to open the borders, raise taxes, and free criminals," a Trump campaign national press secretary noted. It’s great!

kamala2024policies.com

And just for good measure… Trump held the first outdoor event since the assassination attempt in North Carolina the other day. He noticed the crowd yelling for a medic to help a rallygoer having an medical incident and paused his speech.

"A doctor, please," Trump asked looking into the crowd.

"It is very hot here, I notice. It is very hot. A lot of the people waited for days to get here. I understand it," he said.

As medical personnel went to help an elderly woman down from the stands, who had apparently collapsed, Trump thanked them for helping.

"Take your time, doctor. Take your time. Thank you," he said.

He then left his bulletproof protection to go into the crowd at the outdoor rally. While he was surrounded by Secret Service agents, he shook the elderly woman's hand and gave her a hug as he checked on her. The man truly has a massive pair and I bet the Secret Service were crapping themselves when he did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZCdut7ZhRo

Quin_Dub · 22-08-2024 02:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122531998#Comment_122531998

What's interesting is that the "Golden age" of the 1950's and 60's that a lot of the MAGA types like to hark back to was a time when Tax rates for Corporations and the ultra wealthy were many many multiples of what they are today.

Unions were also a lot stronger before they got gutted by Reagan.

RickBlaine · 22-08-2024 02:50PM

Regarding the "woke" discussion (which admittedly has the risk of derailing this, or indeed any, thread), if you ask 20 people to define "woke", you'll probably get 20 wildly different responses ranging from the reasonable to the absurd to the downright racist or sexist. That is why I think that word has lost all meaningful usage.

MisterAnarchy · 22-08-2024 02:55PM

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Any Ltd company in Ireland is liable for Corporate tax, these business owners are risk takers, entrepreneurs, employers, they drive and shape the economy.

People like this need to be encouraged and rewarded not taxed to death.

Personal tax in Ireland is draconian, this has to be paid after Corporate tax.

To say Corporate Tax only affects rich people is nonsense

Does Corporate tax in the US only apply to large Corporations ? or do smaller businesses come under the umbrella too, or is there a seperate small business tax ?

hotmail.com · 22-08-2024 03:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532009#Comment_122532009

This is the sort of nonsense we've been hearing for the last 10 years.

eightieschewbaccy · 22-08-2024 03:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532128#Comment_122532128

Given the plans of project 2025, that can be considered policy.... That's got far reaching impacts. He's going in with a far more prepared team this time round. But even last time, he caused a lot of damage.

Overheal · 22-08-2024 03:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532082#Comment_122532082

one would hope you already knew the answers to these questions before you accused Harris of having an “insane” tax policy

LambshankRedemption · 22-08-2024 03:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122531492#Comment_122531492

I saw his message, realised I have no interest in his witterings and added him to my ignore list.

I didn't insult him. I didnt give him one bit of notice.

Sigma101 · 22-08-2024 03:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532082#Comment_122532082

That's a fair point. As I understand it in the US, (unlike Ireland) most small businesses do not pay the corporate rate. In other words the 28% does not apply to them. Instead the company profit "passes through" to the personal income of the owner, and they pay income tax at the appropriate rate. That's a low percentage if income is low (10%?) and higher for higher incomes. Maybe someone here knows more.

hotmail.com · 22-08-2024 03:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532145#Comment_122532145

Damage to what?

Overheal · 22-08-2024 03:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532182#Comment_122532182

it would be easier to list what he didn’t damage

LambshankRedemption · 22-08-2024 03:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532172#Comment_122532172

That is my understanding too. However as we all know, there are all manner of ways to cook the books when you are at the top so you pay less tax.

johnny_ultimate · 22-08-2024 03:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532203#Comment_122532203

Open an Irish office, for example 😅

LambshankRedemption · 22-08-2024 03:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532209#Comment_122532209

I worked for 2 major software companies in another european country. In both companies their European Legal and Finance headquarters were in Cork. At one point I got a corporate credit card and was surprised when it arrived it was a Bank of Ireland business account card. I visited one of the cork offices and there were about 5 people manning it. The reason being is obvious now.

eightieschewbaccy · 22-08-2024 03:37PM

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Abuse of the office of the presidency, literally using it to attempt to attempt to extort Zelensky, international reputation damage which included going after the likes of NATO. Egging on an insurrection to try to override election rights, enabling white supremacists, being responsible for decimating abortion rights, mismanagement during a global pandemic including messaging that was all over the gaff. Attempting to weaponise the FBI for his personal goals. There wasn't a week that went by where he didn't cause a domestic scandal.

Next time round, project 2025 which aims to pursue an authoritarian conservative Christian agenda which includes the likes of getting rid of the department of education, going after anti discrimination policies, abandoning any effort to combat climate change. Plus expanding presidential powers. Even ignoring project 2025, he will most likely hand over swathes of Ukraine to Russia and continue his love fest with any dictator that captures his fancy.

Igotadose · 22-08-2024 03:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532267#Comment_122532267

Don't forget bloating the deficit with a largely unnecessary tax cut, and doing incredibly dangerously stupid things like moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and recognizing the Golan Heights as part of Israel. All this emboldened Bibi and the Israeli lunatic right. Rollback of lots of EPA regulations and achievements. And on, and on.

"We have seen that movie before, and the sequel is always worse." - Barack Obama, DNC 2024, regarding the Convicted Felon Trump presidency

odyssey06 · 22-08-2024 03:42PM

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Trump is a rapist, a racist, a fascist, a felon, a demagogue. His economic proposals make no sense, he doesn't even understand the tariffs he is calling for. He wants to cut corporation tax as payback to his rich donors, he admitted as much publicly. He is unable to open his mouth with incriminating himself, or spewing hate, or nonsense.

That's how bad Trump is.

If you find that annoying, well that's reality.

Tony EH · 22-08-2024 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122530878#Comment_122530878

"Yes, but what's the alternative?"

Musk 2028.

Facetious, of course, but there is a distinct overlap between the twats that support Trump and the twats that support Musk. Sad individuals that desperately need a cult leader to look up to.

hotmail.com · 22-08-2024 03:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532267#Comment_122532267

The fundamentals of the US economy and society stayed the same. That's what matters. He didn't really do anything. I don't understand the support for him nor do I understand the almost obsession with hating him.

This convention has been a vomit inducing America love in,neglecting any real issues. But it looks like the Trump obsessed crowd unable to look past Trump to dare to criticise American policies and culture.

22-08-2024 03:49PM

A man with such a strong record of running companies into the ground and defrauding his suppliers has no place running a country.

MisterAnarchy · 22-08-2024 03:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122532299#Comment_122532299

That is a pretty vile statement.

odyssey06 · 22-08-2024 03:55PM

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He attempted to steal the election, and then incited a mob to storm the Capitol.
40 out of 44 of those who worked in his former administration refused to endorse him.
In his first term they were the ones stopping him wrecking the place.
Next time round, his administration will be yes men and stooges and fascists who are attempting to alter US society via Project 2025.
What happened in his first term is therefore no guide to his second, and that is obvious to anyone paying attention.

His comments on NATO, his proposed tariffs plan and corporation tax plans look like fundamental changes to me in the nature of the US economy, and its role in the world economy, and likewise for global security.

Why would the Democratic National Convention be in the business of criticising American policies and culture, whatever that even means. Your comments about the convention don't resemble the real world expectations of a political convention, sounds like academic college politics nonsense.

That you found the DNC "vomit inducing" but when it comes to Trump's racist vomit, scurrilous slurs, January 6th, trying to steal the election felonies, rape etc - that doesn't matter to you.

If you don't think there's any real issues in there - well it speaks volumes about your position and concern for democracy and political conduct.

Overheal · 22-08-2024 03:58PM

Not just the rereges and low level trolling, some have gone to extreme lengths to disrupt the Democratic national convention from bomb threats to now reports that extremists threw maggots/crickets all over a breakfast buffet for the convention

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/21/maggots-chicago-democrats-hotel/74892695007/

If it wasn’t already obvious how threatened the right is of how successful this convention has been thus far. If something like this ever happened to the Republican convention they would be apoplectic.

Tonight will likely be another banger. So far each night there have been surprises that weren’t in the schedule, eg. Oprah showing up last night, Lil’ Jon and Sean Aston at the roll call, Kamala on night one, etc. etc. etc. with viewership ratings that have already eclipsed the RNC.

Tony EH · 22-08-2024 03:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122531114#Comment_122531114

It just shows had facile, half witted, shallow and downright weird a lot of the modern "internet" right wing are these days. To be led around by the nose by someone who wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire and who's completely policy and fact free, whilst extolling the dubious virtues of being against something you can't even define, is really something to behold.

Hopefully we are getting closer to the day when Trump is eliminated from the body politic altogether, because he's been nothing but a blight on the entire thing. But I suppose we have something to be thankful to him for and that's for exposing just how many stupid, stupid, people there are out there that have an, unnerving, ability to willing vote against their best interests.