Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418615#Comment_122418615

Most normal people aren't as insecure about themselves as you seem to be about a woman being president.

Because of that insecurity, you believe everyone else thinks the same way.

They don't.

nolivesmatter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418312#Comment_122418312

No doubt the problems with him are much worse. But his age isn't the issue, as you say it's the moral bankruptcy.

highpitcheric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418625#Comment_122418625

Its not about me.

And yes people vote along racial and gender lines. So if thats what you define as insecurity then yes normal people are that insecure.

I read in one segment how female candidates in opinion polls do more or less fine up to senator positions, but theres a noticible dip when senator is replaced by president. Maybe thats just my insecurity. Or maybe you have you head in … the sand.

(ps. if im banned for saying any of this ill be found on other platforms saying it twice as much).

astrofool

Tell me how insecure you are without telling me you're insecure.

(ps. if im banned for saying any of this ill be found on other platforms saying it twice as much).

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418618#Comment_122418618

You have said,

you dont have to be racist to not want to keep the identity politics nonsense going. you dont have to be racist as a white man to be turned off by what will inevitably result from the first black female president of the u.s.

What will inevitably result from it?

You're the one bringing identity politics into the conversation before Harris's campaign has even spun up.

I would say that someone who chooses not to vote for Harris based on what would "inevitably" result from her election, being a black woman, are the ones who are engaging in identity politics. They're the ones obsessed with it.

America is plenty ready for a candidate of any hue, gender or creed, if the political benefit is there. In 2008, a black man won the presidency and a woman was embraced by the Republican base as their great political hope.

highpitcheric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418636#Comment_122418636

as ive said previously 2008 was a saner time.

what will inevitably result now from a dem win will be a continuation of indentity politics nonsense. you have seen it before with maga, if dems win you will see it again in an inverse form. and you will hear it, over, and over and over and over.

and if you were an american male (especially a white male), you would maybe be tempted to avoid this most annoying of fates.

as for the other aptly named "contributor" yes im insecure on this site because im well aware of the shenanigans. and the little cliques of ninnys and weasels.

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418646#Comment_122418646

Ninny’s and weasels???

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418646#Comment_122418646

Unless Democrat political strategists are supremely stupid, they're not going to be basing Harris's campaign on her identity, so when you talk about a continuation of 'identity politics nonsense', I suspect that it'll be coming from the likes of Tucker Carlson and other notable commentators on the American Right who won't shut up about it. They're the ones who see identity politics around every corner. The joke of it would be that the main source of annoyance would come from every pundit on Fox News telling them how annoyed they should be.

Yes 2008 was a saner time and one that America should be striving to get back to if it's to survive as a country. One aspect of that would be voting for candidates based on policies, promises and personality, not on their race or gender.

Overheal

Republicans so spooked by Harris that they held an emergency meeting to try and pass a resolution condemning Biden dropping out (?)

lol

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/are-you-kidding-me-jim-mcgovern-mocks-republicans-emergency-meeting-convened-because-trump-is-losing-and-theyre-in-a-panic/

Overheal

Wow.

Elon has decided $45M/mo to subscribe to Trump Premium suddenly is no longer a good investment

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/

What was the saying? "rats fleeing a sinking ship?"

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418664#Comment_122418664

Definitely a climbdown, but not exactly abandoning Trump as the article goes on to say,

Musk did note that he created a super PAC, called the America PAC, to help support Trump. A super PAC is a group that can raise unlimited amounts of money for a campaign’s independent expenditures—such as for ads, or for day-to-day operations— but doesn’t donate directly to the campaign

highpitcheric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418655#Comment_122418655

A lot of things should be. But aren't.

Her party strategists dont get to choose whether voters engage with her campaign on the basis of identity politics. They can point to her strengths, and market her how they see fit. But thats all, the voters will decide based on their own reasoning.

Right wing pundits will be and are just as tiresome, but you can turn them off and they're in very concentrated corners. Living in Ireland alleviates us of much of Americas political culture.

Maybe you've forgotten but in the days of maga ascendency identity nonsense followed you around in the media like wack-a-mole, even over here.

Thats coming again, (I told you why but got denial and abuse for it) from which side is the only question now. We're getting 4 more years of hulk hogan maga, or we're going to live in an interminable episode of the view.

And this is from an ocean away. We only get the secondary effects. Thank god.

Biden was the hope for this to end, he was the white male compromise candidate I spoke of, but he couldnt make it. So prepare your ears either way. (although you seem to be from one camp, so you're stakes are different from normal peoples)

Frank Bullitt

Some very serious fund raising and donations to Harris so far. And seeing the comments in here from the Trump bootlickers, worried are we lads?

Trump is visibly too old, rambles and goes off the script, he should drop out. That’s how we do it, right 😂😂😂

Redliketoast

Anyone who thinks an election based on:

Trump paid Off a porn star

Trump dodged the draft

Trump is a sex offender

Trump Is a felon

Trump is a misogynist

Trump is a racist

Trump is broke

Trump committed fraud

Anyone who thinks the above will work, clearly hasn't been paying attention. Even the most negative pole has him trailing by 2 points, given all the above.

This will come down to the swing states. Harris needs a white male from one of those states. That could win it.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418673#Comment_122418673

Might spin it that way but I think it's clear he'll do whatever is best for Elon and play it by ear, if the writing on the wall and the dogs on the street start veering for a Kamala presidency so will he.

Redliketoast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418664#Comment_122418664

Maybe try reading the article. He hasn't backed out of anything

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418677#Comment_122418677

Just look at that list…how any sane human could put their vote to a complete meatball like Trump is wild.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418681#Comment_122418681

Maybe you need to read the article.

Redliketoast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418682#Comment_122418682

Yet 80 million did. He has done a lot more than that.

My point all along has been, that we need to understand why people ignore that. Because the current strategy is to berate people who support him. That isn't going to change their minds.

The worst part is Trump is not as bad as it can get. He wss in power before. Bone of what people say would happen, happened. That's because he isn't a real republican. Just wait until someone like vance is elected. Now there is the tyrant and chief. Maybe he could have ted cruz as his vp 🤣

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418674#Comment_122418674

If they can switch off these right wing pundits, can they not just switch off the left wing ones as well? Just stop watching MSNBC, FOX or reading Twitter. Job done - no annoyance.

That is unless they're sort of looking to get annoyed.

highpitcheric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418677#Comment_122418677

yep. see 10 mins in. straight white male from traditional background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fic3qonRtcI

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418687#Comment_122418687

Yet 80 million did.

No he didn't?

When did he get 80 million votes?

Redliketoast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418684#Comment_122418684

I did. Clearly you didn't, if you think he has reneged on anything.

He didn't pull out of anything. Denies he said anything about 45m a month. He DID however set up a PAC. Which is to raise money for advertising etc.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418687#Comment_122418687

Yes, we already know that some of his voters would vote for Donald Duck if he was a republican, we also know that he has some people believing that god sent him.

We can safely say, it’s a cult. A deranged cult at that. Nothing will change their minds, not his base anyway. This election will be won or lost in the centre, and as it looks, Trump doesn’t seem to have a solid grasp on winning their vote, it seems.

Babyreignbow

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418684#Comment_122418684

Not really, in the same interview (with Jordan Peterson) he discusses his contempt for woke culture and blames it for the reason his son transitioned, or as he put it was 'killed by woke mind virus' and hence his support for Trump and his agenda. The attempt to distance himself from endorsing Trump now comes on the back of the potential losses for Tesla following that announcement. (he's still dropping 45m into an account)

He's just another great white whale that needs to get into the sea.

Jinglejangle69

All the wars Iraq x 2, Afghanistan where started by Republicans yes?

highpitcheric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122418688#Comment_122418688

No. It will permeate life.

A great deal less over here thankfully. But I imagine it will be absolutely exhausting over there.

And that prospect is enough to move certain voters to the other side. (although im not allowed to say that).

advisemerite

Typical Dem, Everything you've said here is hearsay. Trump has no convictions for rape, it was basically a democrat supporting Judge' opinion.

It's the Democrats who are aligned to Epstein in a seedy way.

You seem offended by the name Kinky Kamala the side chick 😆.

On a side note Black Lives Matter have turned on Kinky Kamala and the Dems. Lol i love it.

advisemerite

Black Lives Matter have turned on the Democrats 😃 and the side Chick.

Bobeagleburger

Republicans crying over Harris using funds raised by Biden. Snowflakes, is that the term?