(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483098#Comment_122483098

We're all different, but that wouldn't have put me off and I don't see that as unwelcoming or clique behaviour.

That's why Boards will never make everyone happy, we all have our own perspectives, we react differently to posts and, yes, we all have our own biases. That's just human nature though, it doesn't mean that one person is objectively right, and the other objectively wrong.

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482160#Comment_122482160

I can't reassure you.

All I can say is that I read the same as the other poster as part of a bigger discussion.

It does not matter in the overall discussion though - the report post function is there for a reason and there should not be any issues if people do use it.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482723#Comment_122482723

People aren’t leaving in a strop. They are being thread banned when their opinions don’t align with the popular views. Mods have confirmed that they do not have the capacity to check context which is a problem when posters gang up on individuals.

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482723#Comment_122482723

Yes I see what you are talking about there.

But I also see what Tellmehow refers to, that is the type of thing I am referencing even in the more "harmless" forums.And while some people would not be put off by that, others would be.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483235#Comment_122483235

I quoted the post for that poster because they suggested I was lying. I don't know why they expected you to be able to quote it verbatim.

No one memorises posts ffs.

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483199#Comment_122483199

I'd say its more to do with resources. There is not enough Mods and cross forum mods. And if a person would say to themselves "ah here not going there to get the head chewed off me again" then the person heads off and all continues.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482157#Comment_122482157

This is nonsense, the other poster is perfectly correct in what Beasty has said previously about how reports are handled. Just because you may not have been there at the time doesn't mean everybody is wrong in their memory.

Its not our fault that the search function is pathetic, using its failure as some sort of gotcha is just stupid.

Ahwell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483239#Comment_122483239

Some opinions are just not acceptable on a public message board. As are some ways of interacting with other posters. There's no free speech on Boards.ie, there never has been. There are limits on what you can post and how you behave. If you go beyond those limits you can be banned. Tough.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483239#Comment_122483239

In a thread about why the forum is dying it's ironic to shoot the messenger. If there are no problems this thread would not exist. Or similar threads wouldn't be created so regularly.

There are forums/sub forums/threads where it's impossible to post. Be that ask a question, post a (reasonable) alternative viewpoint. You'll be harangued until you give up. Some attack the poster not the post everytime.

You either see it or you don't.

Shoog

There are long standing right leaning members of Boards.ie

Additionally the right wing are sending waves of people to attempt to shift the focus on boards.ie to a more favourable hue. They are doing it to all public forums. Shift the debate to where saying socially unacceptable things is considered normal.

Boards can sit back and let it happen or it can be vigilant and rebuff these agent provocators. So far it's resisting.

cdeb

Your definition of "right-wing" is "person who doesn't agree with me" though, judging from previous threads.

I think that's worth calling out to put your post in context.

Flinty997

You can't have it both ways. Either the reporting works and prompts attention and action from the mods or it doesn't. I find it hard to believe there are no reports from a threads where people constantly gang up on other posters.

If people have given up reporting things, then that tells it's own story. The squeaky wheel no longer squeaks because it's fallen off etc.

Shoog

Happy to disagree with people, but what I am talking about is different. These are fly-by posters and sealions.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483609#Comment_122483609

No idea what that means. We have flying seals ?

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483621#Comment_122483621

Common descriptive terms for species of trolls.

Ezeoul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483434#Comment_122483434

It's nothing to do with resources when the mod is on the thread and posting themselves.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483596#Comment_122483596

This.

I remember when insulting people because of their ethnicity , culture , race or the colour of their skin was an actionable offence . Was it called being racist / offensive ? Seems a distant memory now .

It is being posted freely on some threads now with impunity ..probably because anybody who might have reported those posts has either been banned or driven from the thread .

I don't think it is being tolerated per se, just not coming to the attention of the busy mods,flinty . It is happening .

There are now a proliferation of posts that a lot of people won't go into because of the proliferation of" very strongly worded views in an aggressive manner " and the likelihood of being piled on if you express a different view.

The more extreme posts getting high numbers of likes , so" how dare you disagree !"

This needs to be either very well moderated or it will destroy the site turning it into rubbish like Telegram or X .

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483596#Comment_122483596

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483602#Comment_122483602

Irrespective of the posters categorization, their point is hardly without merit.

Others have pointed out the quantity of immigration focused threads for example. On the thread that lasted about a day after the Southport attack, there was a particularly vehement post blaming Left wing people for the attack. It put categoric blame on left wing ideals for the attack having been carried out. The thread was locked, but the post remained. It was liked 35+ times in the next 24 hours.

Yesterday a thread was started, descended in to very pointed statements very quickly similar to what we've seen in the news a lot in recent weeks with a high volume of likes on these statements until not only was it locked, but as much as I can see, deleted entirely which may give some indication of the content.

And this can hardly be surprising, we've seen a rise of right wing vitriol in public and internet life over the last 8 years in particular since Brexit/Trump/Musk especially normalized the expression of such sentiments. That's just a fact. I pointed out years ago on here that this was going to happen if it wasn't challenged appropriately, and here we are. There was a time when you'd come to Boards and see the trending page full of entertaining topics, to come now and see it full of Far Right or US politics is going to be a turn off for many. That's just a fact. That's where Boards is at right now.

Leg End Reject

What is the issue with both left and right wing opinions being posted and discussed?

Do some of you genuinely just want one perspective or opinions that match your own?

Leg End Reject

It's alright, I found it and posted it. 😉

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483822#Comment_122483822

You posted this just when I was posting similar above you .

Exactly

So is this what people want ?

Or is it just a group wanting to vent views that they can't otherwise ?

Thing is , they can do this elsewhere , if Boards wants to stay away from that sort of rhetoric . Then decisions have to be made by the site.

Either way they will lose one group or the other eventually

I can't see posters who are in the middle staying on the site if it continues to go full on Telegram or X in CA , regardless of the rest of the forum

LetticebCivil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482147#Comment_122482147

Irony is strong with this one

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Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483903#Comment_122483903

I am an avid follower of current affairs topics and enjoy engaging discussions, and have many right wing friends (particularly in the US) who I have spent a lot of time comfortably discussing such topics from both perspectives.

I've an issue with content that leads to racism, abuse and generally hateful ideologies being given a platform.

I do recognize conversations are happening in society and I would rather be able to challenge the people expressing what I feel are these views, rather than just ignore the individual and talk for the 1000th time about something in a general sense. But boards has chosen to use the 'attack the post, not the poster' (in some places) as a justification for banning.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483932#Comment_122483932

I presume you are being ironic posting like this on a feedback forum where posters are trying to give their opinions .

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483966#Comment_122483966

I've an issue with content that leads to racism, abuse and generally hateful ideologies being given a platform.

I'd agree with that, but some of the posts here suggest that only left leaning posts are acceptable.

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484081#Comment_122484081

If been a racist is part of been a right leaning ideologe - then yes.

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483460#Comment_122483460

It's nonsense yet nobody can produce what was said.

The poster said a lot, a bit complicated than just how reports are handled. There is apparently a whole persecution of minority opinions going on

That's the thing about boards, you don't need to rely on a few people's memory. It's there in black and white

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122482716#Comment_122482716

It's on you to back up your claims. Because you said so, isn't going to cut it.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483239#Comment_122483239

That is entirely it.

Moderators have a busy job and often only look at isolated reported posts and not the overall context.

Certain posters have carte blanche to constantly bait, goad, troll and antagonise in certain threads safe in the knowledge that nothing will be done as the numbers are in their favour.

The tactic of bait, goad and troll works because when someone simply stands up to the abuse their post is mass reported and they are punished instead of the instigators.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122484172#Comment_122484172

Eh, I did post it! I quoted you so you should have an alert. There's nothing more I can do bar driving to you and reading it aloud for you. 😂