Cost of en suite refit

The_Honeybadger

Hello folks. I have a small en suite that is nearly 20 years old at this stage. It has a toilet, wash basin and walk in shower with power shower.
Everything is original, we have never spent any money on upgrading it, it’s starting to really show its age, everything is loose, shower door is not closing properly, some of the tiles are cracked etc.

What can I expect to pay for a full upgrade top to bottom, all fittings, full re-tiling, new shower etc.

I wouldn’t be going for anything overly fancy, just a standard bathroom.

I just want a ballpark idea before I go looking for quotes

kabakuyu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058361938/cost-of-en-suite-refit

I'm guessing 7- 10k,I will b doing bathroom 2.2m x 2.4m,striped back to stud,new tiling,floor,new fittings,shower and door,I have allowed 7-10k for all worka and materials excluding demo and skip.

The_Honeybadger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122439872#Comment_122439872

Thanks. I’m dreaming thinking I might get it done for €5k in that case

kabakuyu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122439930#Comment_122439930

What size is it?I'm getting new walls and ceiling as well.

The_Honeybadger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122439936#Comment_122439936

it’s 3.1m x 1.1m it’s one of those long narrow ones

Im presuming I’ll need new walls as well

AraLaveItOut

I'm currently doing an ensuite fit similar to this myself. We had a shower and sink in an upstairs ensuite, shower always leaked, and wanted to add a toilet. So ended up knocking a wall, brought it out about 2 foot to fit the toilet. Tried to get plumbers but none available, had a few plumbers look at it but no-one would come out for a one day job. Ended up connecting it myself. Likewise plasterers/tilers.
Bathroom size is about 3.5m2.

Prices:

Skip: €350
Wood, nails etc for new wall/door frame: €100
New door and fittings: €200
New shower, showerbasin, enclosure, toilet and sink, extractor, wiring: roughly €1300.
Plaster, kit, plasterboards, mesh etc: €400
Tiles + adhesive/grout/membrane/waterproofing: €400 (borrowed kit from a friend)
Tin of paint: €70 -€80 (Probably, already have brushes and rollers and that)
Time spent and pain of doing it yourself: expensive.
Leaks: probable.

If you're getting someone in for everything, prices will rack up. This would be a very rough estimate of tradies outside Dublin. Assuming all wiring and plumbing is in the same places and only needs to be connected, nothing redone (best case scenario :
Electrician: €100 (assuming literally just need to disconnect and reconnect the shower, additional wiring will cause the price to go up fast)
Plumber: €300 (assuming just connecting the pipes, will need to disconnect one day and reconnect when everything else is installed, if it's more complicated that that this will rack up. Worth paying for a good one).
Plasterer: €500 (will need a full day at least, add on price of materials onto this, if you're replastering, you may not need it replastered)
Tiler: depending on how much, could take 2 days: €300-500 a day. Add materials on top.
Hardest thing would be finding each of these individually. Getting someone to organize it all and do it in a timely manner, you can add about 50% to the price I'd say.

The_Honeybadger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122440066#Comment_122440066

Thanks for this. I am not handy at all and wouldn’t have the confidence to do any of the work myself. I’d prefer to get somebody that would manage everything and don’t mind paying for that as long as it’s done properly.

Gusser09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122440101#Comment_122440101

7K is a decent price if you can get it. It's only expensive the day you pay for it.

Juran

I have just finished main bathroom full re-fit, though its not a big bathroom.

I got a team of 3 builders to do the lot, they were are able to do the building work, plastering, tiling, plumbing, electrical, painting and carpentary.

The room was all gutted it back to bare walls, everything went into the skip. Materials came to over €8,000, including the sanitary wear, electric shower, tiles, new plasterboard, new stud walls, framing timber, fitted storage cabinet, quartz countertop paint, small fitting eg. Lights, and the skip. We did opt for high specs finishes and more expensive sanitary wear, work tops, shower, etc. but I reckon you could buy budget sanitary wear & tiles & shower unit for under €3,000.

The labour came to just over €7,000. It took them around 2 weeks, the workmanship was top class and they were able to do all the work themselves.

We did our ensuite a few years ago, pre-covid. That took about 4 days and cost around €1,000 labour (plumber and tiler), plus new toilet, sink, shower head and tiles, which came to under €1,000. You'd never find labour that cheap again.

Gusser09

Johnny Cash is your man. And nixers if you can afford to push the refit out over a month. (Weekends)

Hippodrome Song Owl

I paid €9000 last year to a specialist bathroom company. €1000 was for electrics as there had never been an electric shower in the house, so you may not need that. I got quotes from several places, and they were all around the same.

The_Honeybadger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122440401#Comment_122440401

Thanks. Seems like absolutely mad money for a small en-suite but that the way things have gone I suppose

Thanks everyone

rob w

Yeah, you wouldnt get much change out of 10k these days. I nearly fell over with some of the quotes I got two years ago. Ended up doing it myself in the end and just got a plumber in to make final connections.

Just be careful who you go with and choose someone reputable or who has a recommendation. Last thing you want some cowboy who will make a balls of it and cost you more money and stress in the end! The cheapest price is not always the best option!

Kalimah

We did our own bathroom refurbishment- cost 6k for materials- sanitary ware, tiles etc. Took forever as it was one step forward, two back. The bathroom is tiny so we had heaps of issues.
A friend had a bathroom and en-suite done - said she paid 30k which I didn’t believe at the time. I do now!

CalamariFritti

I just had mine done.

Slightly different starting point as in everything in ours was fine 'cos only a few years old, but we had a leak to downstairs. So the main objective was getting the shower tanked.

But still, it amounted to more or less a complete redo. All floor and walls tiles new, jackoboards & tanking, new shower tray and shower unit (pump/power shower), skip, some plumbing and bits & bobs.

Reused toilet, handwash basin and radiator so I saved some money on that but they still had to be removed and put back in, connected etc.

Paint job and new lights for ceiling I did myself after.

It amounted to one main installer and one tanker/tiler on and off in there for about 6 workdays. Was full on with receipts no nixer and main shop in town and came to just over 6k but the new shower unit was very expensive. Could have been just under 6 with a lesser yoke. This is in Waterford.

So depending on what you have I'd say somewhere between 5 and 7.

I would recommend going for a one stop shop. If you try to organise all the different people yourself like tiler, plumber, maybe electrician whatever it could become a nightmare especially the way things are these days. The guys from the shop work together all the time. They know what bits and bobs to buy, what glue what board all that. They dont end up forgetting something that costs another 500 or are suddenly not available for the next 2 weeks etc.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122440066#Comment_122440066

Yeah I like your last comment- I did just that about 15 years ago - think it cost me 7k - saying that I don’t regret it as haven’t had any issues with the shower and a minor one with the toilet flush caused by some stray foam clogging the mechanism - I was gobsmacked at the cost but really it was worth it long term and in fairness they did put in a new tank and a few other bits and pieces - just choose the provider carefully

Jonathan2712

We just had one done last month. Total cost was around 6k. I guess location, spec and complexity all factor in to the cost. We were happy with the old layout, so it was a replacement rather than a remodel, and we used a local plumber who arranged the tilers for us. He provided everything apart from the tiles and skip.

I did look at some specialist bathroom suppliers, most of whom wanted 7k-10k, but looking at what we got, I can't see any reason to pay more than we did.

We have six bathrooms in total and plan to get them all done over the next 12 months, this may have factored in to the quote as we will now almost certainly use the same guy.

For refence we are Louth based.

The_Honeybadger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122441358#Comment_122441358

Thanks. We are also happy with the layout and the bathroom is so small we couldn’t change it anyway it’ll be very much a like for like replacement. I was hoping for somewhere around €5k but I could certainly live with €6k

It’s probably not a forever home and I don’t think I could justify up to €10k

fitzparker

5k for an ensuite should definitely do unless prices are gone crazy and presuming you aren't looking for the best of the best

We got our ensuite done in 2020 as there was a leak, kept toilet and sink and electric shower was fine too.

The bathroom was stripped in a few hours, new tiles on the floor and around the shower, larger shower tray/enclosure fitted, painted the rest of the en suite. it took about 3-3.5 days… I bought the supplies myself - Tiles, tanking kit, grout, shower tray/enclosure

it came to less than 2k all in including labour (although I did know the person)
I then got my main bathroom done in 2021.
Went to a bathroom specialist, one wanted 8k, got another shop local for 5k (cash)

This included a full strip out, bath removed and replaced with walk in tanked power shower, new toilet,sink,vanity,mirror,floor to ceiling radiator, the whole bathroom tiled. done in a week.

(both north wexford)

Are prices really gone insane?

an en suite lets say will take a week, lets be modest and give 2000 to the person doing it, then maybe 500 for electrician/plumber (although if nothing is being moved the person doing it should be able to plumb)

The supplies wont cost more than 2500-3000 - you can get a whole suite on bathshack for €1000 all you need after that is a tiles, tanking kit and a mirror

I personally wouldn't pay over 5-5500 at a push, but shop around and even get the stuff yourself and have it fitted.

Eims5769

Morning All,

I'm looking at these eye watering prices and trying to figure out ways to cut down on money spent, if not very handy. i guessing the removal of current bathroom could be done myself, and then pay the professionals to come in and fit new one? But would that save much?

Shoog

Did ours recently, did all the work myself, hardest room in the house to renovate because of the cramped space. Don't expect any tradesman to be enthusiastic about taking the job on.

More expensive than you might think would be my guess.

Shoog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122515711#Comment_122515711

Tradesmen don't want these types of bitty jobs. They would barely recoup the diesel on site visit and the days work.

If you can find a handyman with references to do it all. Might be slower and not quite so good but you won't be waiting months for tradesmen to maybe show up.

Eims5769

Sorry, I meant if i did just the removal myself, and then got someone in to do all the rest. Is an entire bathroom a bitty job? I thought that would be a reasonable job.

The_Honeybadger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122519378#Comment_122519378

It’s a bitty job for a main contractor that builds houses etc

There are plumbers and contractors that specialise in bathrooms but they have no end of work on and seem to be charging whatever figure comes in to their head at this stage. Get at least three quotes.

They’d probably be good with you stripping the place yourself. You’d certainly save money by doing it but the only way to know how much is to get prices

Gusser09

If you could plumb things up yourself it would make a massive difference. Try a tiler only and see what they are looking for to tile. Some othose lads are also handy when it comes to plumbing a sick and a toilet.