Non Alcoholic beer in bars should be cheaper than alcoholic beer

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469824#Comment_122469824

I find it amusing that people need to contort themselves like this and respond to a load of nonsense nobody said.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473218#Comment_122473218

Another reason to avoid pubs. Crap music blaring, inadequate seating and those vile machines everywhere though I don't think the machines exist in Irish pubs.

talla10

For a Road Safety perspective of course they should incentivise drinking non alcoholic beer. I remember a few years ago (maybe 15?) if a designated driver had 3 or more Coca Colas or soft drinks they were free to encourage designated drivers and try and cut down on drink driving/encourage road safety.

Pubs also make more money on non alcoholic drinks than alcoholic. There is huge tax on every pint of alcohol whereas non alcoholic beer is not subject to the same tax.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473218#Comment_122473218

Every pub ?

Also RRP doesn't really exist. The variation between pubs and geographic regions is too vast.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469824#Comment_122469824

Seeing as how you mention the US, many bars in the US will give free refills of soft drinks……… They obviously don't factor in the multiple 5 quid cost of pressing a button and then placing the glass in a washer at the end of the night that you factor in to justify the Irish publican's charges.

Your greeting card analogy is a bit silly. Your average shop probably isn't selling as many "Happy 74th birthday Grandma" cards as per day as a pub would sell 7-ups.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473245#Comment_122473245

Lots of different kinds of pub out there. Some in the UK have no music or machines.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473258#Comment_122473258

Not sure how common that coke thing actually was. I certainly never came across it or heard of it mentioned amongst colleagues.

When you say non alcoholic drinks do you mean beer or all soft drinks. Pubs making way more money from non alcoholic beer simply isn't true.

JVince

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473322#Comment_122473322

maybe 20 years ago US pubs gave free soda refills, but I assure you they don't do it now - or at least in Baltimore, Seattle, DC and New York. They charge handsomely for ALL drinks.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473441#Comment_122473441

YMMV. Perhaps they see you coming?

SchrodingersCat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473301#Comment_122473301

Yep, St James Gate said it would be €3.50 a bottle.

Now don't get pedantic on what "every pub" means.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473323#Comment_122473323

True but when I meet people, it's usually in the city centre and we tend to plump for convenience. There are definitely pubs without those annoyances.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473524#Comment_122473524

But they can't say that. It's impossible.

How can they say it should be 3.50 in a Dublin 1 pub with a huge mortgage and 3.50 in a rural family owned Kerry pub.

So many factors affect the net profit of a pub so Diagio or anyone saying "thats the price" is talking horsesht. RRP does not mean that's the price it needs to be sold at.

Alun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473204#Comment_122473204

Are you sure? Any 0.0 beers I've had have always had something like <0.05% alcohol printed on the label. So where has that come from if there wasn't any in there to start with?

SchrodingersCat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473538#Comment_122473538

What part of "Recommended Retail Price" do you think we are confused by?

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473537#Comment_122473537

Ya sadly most people have no taste. If it's London city centre try guide them to the local Sam Smith's who have no music, TVs or machines. Also some of the best beer prices and bar interiors in London.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473551#Comment_122473551

I do like Sam Smith's. Well, the pubs. Owner is a bit of a twat, apparently. The Fitzroy Tavern is nice.

Gary_dunne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473537#Comment_122473537

I get that you don't like pubs in general from your posts but why would you openly choose to go to the ones that you specifically don't like with loud music and fruit machines?

There's tonnes in London that don't have either of these and you never know you may actually enjoy yourself in a nice quiet pub.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473538#Comment_122473538

The reason their mortgage is more is because they paid more for the property. The reason the property was more expensive was other people were willing to pay more for it which drives up the price. The reason people are willing to pay more for it is that they can make more profit from it. The reason they can make more profit is because of the location and the availability of customers.

The pub in Dublin 1 will turn over a lot more than your rural Kerry pub. The volume should make up for the potentially tighter margins.

In reality, there will be a difference. But there are more factors that just price

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473566#Comment_122473566

I like pubs but I only go when I meet someone which isn't that often given that almost all of my friends are married and settled down outside London.

I also think that I may be making more of a thing out of the music than most people would. I like my quiet time and when I do socialise, I like to focus on the person/people I'm with. I don't see what the music adds unless it's something like a trad session. Most of the pubs near me or which are convenient have the music.

talla10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473323#Comment_122473323

The coke campaign (that wasn't the official name btw) was wide spread in rural settings where there was no public transport and/or limited taxi service. I don't know what links it had to reduced accidents but it was a start.

I know pubs main income is from alcohol but if someone buys a pint of beer and a pint of 0.0 beer they get a bigger profit from the 0.0.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122474187#Comment_122474187

Ya if it was only rural that's probably why I never heard of it.

Anywhere I have bought 0.0 it has been cheaper than alcoholic so I wouldn't expect profit to be higher except maybe in a very marginal sense. Certainly not the levels that people have dreamed up because of tax. Personally I used always price it at the very same profit margin but I obviously can't speak for everyone else.

Greyfox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473159#Comment_122473159

If it means less drunk people in A&E after a night out then yes. Well making non alcoholic beer cheaper by having less tax on it makes a lot of sense. I understood your post, you were trying to pretend that an occasional occurance happens often in order to defend the disgusting price of beer in temple bar. Having live music does not give you a license to rip people off.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122471226#Comment_122471226

If you mean The Temple Bar I agree. I sometimes think themselves and the Gogarty are doing it on purpose to be edgy and controversial.

Temple Bar itself though has plenty of pubs and restaurants that are at what I would call the correct price for the centre of the capital which I expect to be a tiny bit more than where I normally drink. Same goes for the Powerscourt are or whatever it's known as.