Parents Responsibility for Young Children on Roads

Crakepottle?

Two speeds for housing estates, dead slow and stopped.

Isthisthingon?

We had this issue in our estate a few years back, as the estate had recently been handed over to the council from the developer they put chicanes in. Open to correction but councils generally don't do speed bumps anymore at least not in estates, we were told they can impede ambulances and emergency services and they can have the speed up/ brake / speed up/ brake affect for the boy racers anyway.

It tends to be visitors to the estate that can travel too fast at times. Human nature I suppose.

Crakepottle?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469568#Comment_122469568

The interference with the neighbours' personal property is inexcusable, but is a separate issue in my opinion. Many children play on the road but do not engage in vandalism. I would approach the parents for restitution

GBX

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470844#Comment_122470844

And what if a child decides to run out between cars or from a garden and the driver is going slow? As slow as possible? Any vehicle is heavy and by default will knock over a child. That person likely has to deal with the mental situation but it's their fault in your eyes that the child ran out. And not then parents responsibility or guardian who should be watching over them?

martingriff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469017#Comment_122469017

Also if they did this what stops someone reporting a person they dislike

martingriff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469565#Comment_122469565

There are good reason for those though. They are the width of an ambulance so it does not bounce over a speed bump if someone bad in the ambulance. Or so I was told

Crakepottle?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122471146#Comment_122471146

That would be a horrible twist of fate. They do happen. Trees fall on people Individuals have been struck by lightning They don't occur very often because a careful driver would have to be very unlucky as would the young victim.

whelan2

Op, the kids shouldn't be out unsupervised but you've done your bit. The parents are unapproachable and you could get caught up in the situation if something god forbids happens to their kids. You just have to walk away, you can not make other people see sense. That's the way things are going unfortunately.

Marcusm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469360#Comment_122469360

if as suggested by the OP that the oldest kid was 6 and there was experience of heavy traffic then I’d be disappointed by any parent who thought there was no need for additional supervision. Even a 10 year old among them might be expected to govern the others.

Marcusm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469568#Comment_122469568

taking you at your word, that “father” is a moron. Relying on the drivers is insufficient, he needs to consider that the drivers might include a 17 year old with no common sense but who has lived there for their entire life, ie doesn’t see any need to reduce speed etc. don’t wrap kids up in cotton wool but have some **** common sense.

Marcusm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469670#Comment_122469670

That’s OTT; a 17 year old doesn’t need supervision. I’d go so far as to say lost 13 years old or even 10 year olds don’t. A group of 3-6 year olds does, however..

Marcusm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122470844#Comment_122470844

taking the license off them is not much remedy to a dead cold or one with a life changing injury.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122468983#Comment_122468983

What's it going to take before certain drivers will give a damn?

Crakepottle?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122471416#Comment_122471416

Very true. Let's hope it all turns out ok. When a parent takes offense at well meant advice it doesn't bode well for children.

xyz13

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469360#Comment_122469360

So mature... Don't have a solution to the problem but think is appropriate to offend those who offered advice. @hullaballoo

Whatever happened to agree to disagree and move on…

That's the sort of person quick to call a solicitor and put on an injury claim, blaming others for their own mistake. Unfortunately, when there are children involved the cases tend to go in the plaintiff's fav [seen many over the years,].

Caranica

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122472080#Comment_122472080

These kids are outside from the crack of dawn until dark. I know one family in particular where the parents let the kids out and go back to bed, expecting the neighbours to keep an eye on them.

It's a car park, the most dangerous place for kids to be. And right beside the playground and 10m from the gardens. Not a place for unsupervised children

Crakepottle?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473115#Comment_122473115

When people liken a motor vehicle to a loaded gun I always think "Oh for Gods sake !". Rubbish ! Its far more dangerous. You don't need to intend to do harm with a motor vehicle. Inattention even for a split second, for whatever reason, lack of observation of the rules or a faulty vehicle can transform a sane and otherwise law-abiding citizen into a killer. Yes, there is a certain level of careless parenting out there. But it's disquieting to hear it cited as a sort of apologia for knocking down a child in a housing estate. There are other vulnerable categories of residents. People with physical or cognitive disabilities who might not jump out of the way fast enough, elderly people whose sight and hearing are not very keen any more. No judgement about parenting applies to these residents, so should motorists be extra careful not to knock them down. Obviously my tongue is firmly in cheek while making this observation, but let's separate perceived poor parenting from the solemn and frighteningly onerous responsibility of taking a motor vehicle on the road.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473115#Comment_122473115

Hat tip to Tom Flood

Sigma101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473017#Comment_122473017

So you're doubling down on your advice that the OP should report the parents to Tusla for child abuse. This is just plain wrong. It's nasty and vindictive, and people offering such advice in this scenario do not have the OP's interests or the children's interests at heart. It's regrettable that this kind of ill-informed nonsense is entertained on a legal discussions forum.

GBX

The child's safety is paramount. The OP was given options: Talk to the parents being the only realistic approach and given that the parents as per the OP are non approachable, there is very little else can be done.

Woodcutting

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122473393#Comment_122473393

Not so much child abuse as neglect. Tusla probably have a role.

Claw Hammer

The thing to do is to have one neighbour take the kids to McDonalds and when they are gone have another neighbour report to the parents that their kids were seen getting into a strange car.

rock22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122469017#Comment_122469017

Gardaí just now on radio asking people to report dangerous drivers. So it is hard to see how you can say that they will not deal with reports of speeding drivers where it is putting children at risk