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Should people over 40 be banned from nightclubs?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,113 ✭✭✭amacca


    The Nightclubs are slowly disappearing anyway..... without gen z wanting you booted out!

    Hard for them to make sense financially the way things are going...

    Tbh it's the same with a lot of bricks&mortar businesses in towns/cities



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭BalcombeSt4


    No, I personally don't go to raves or clubs anymore, the last time was a decade ago, I'm in my late 30's now, but when I was going out between 18 - 27/28 most of the DJ's headlining events, especially James Devlin's "Devotion" & Senan Shortt's "Energizer" promotions were usually all over 40, people like Mr. Spring, Mark Kavanagh, Warren K, Ed Case, Pressure, UFO, Thyme etc… they have the experience of running different clubs & know what works best better than people in their 20s.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭hamburgham




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Journalist really is a dying profession. Imagine paying for university and writing that absolute shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,963 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Hold up...

    Some 20yo Zoomer who is precluded from over 21 premises,which most nightclubs are! is complaining that Gen X'ers are too old for night clubs🤨

    How the fúck can a Zoomer afford to go to a nightclub? If she isn't a trust fund baby or a sugar baby, who's buying her Smirnoff ice then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭dasdog


    There were a few hippy types in the 90's well in to their 40's that used to frequent the decent nightclubs in Dublin. Not only were they welcome, they were celebrated and some would be as off their chops as the rest of us at 3am. Free spirit types.

    I haven't been to a nightclub in years - I hate the controlled environment after being to raves where there are no bouncers/security/tickets/formal organisation - but I still go to lots of music events and you see all ages from all walks of life which is absolutely brilliant.

    Judgemental people are always going to be judgemental.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    can anyone do the footsie anymore anyway? :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Mister Baddog


    Oh god yes they should be banned. (I'm 65 and know whereof I speak 😇)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭laoismanj


    Personally at 35 and a father of 3, the idea of a music festival or a nightclub is what I imagine the gates of hell to be, however when i was 18-21..did I give a fawk if there was over 40s in the noise chambers I was in? Nope! Did we judge them? Nope, I was too shitfaced to care, we all grow up, those who dont...well its a tragic sight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    No nightclubs in town anymore, some lad on a beat box singing wonderwall in already bar. Pure shite. Dublin was savage in the 90s Ormond, Olympia, Colombia mills, asylum full of people of different ages top class stuff.. Sad to see what it is now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    She's THAT one??

    The one that told pat no-one over 25 should use emojis??

    Well F**K her. I was using emojis before she was born and will continue to do so.

    She she doesn't like it she can suck my



  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭rowantree18


    Yes they should be banned.

    As long as the fade-haircut, black tracksuit, tango-tan, fake nail/lashes/brows/lips millennials are banned from the ACDC concert.

    My music, so they can feck off



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭riddles


    yes and hoovering up unused tickets to gobble the scandalous mandatory dinner 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,681 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    I don't frequent night clubs in my early 40s, actually stopped going to them in my 20s, desolate places full of desperate lads out to blow their load after 3 Heinikens.

    I'd say the young wan who wrote that article has never frequented a bar anyway, let alone a club. The current generation are a bunch off ass wipes, wouldn't know what to do with themselves in a social situation which didn't involve their phones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    I wouldn’t mind going to a night club event that was held for older groups once in a blue moon but no way I’d want to be in a nightclub full of people half my age.

    It’s been about 15 years since I was in a nightclub I wouldn’t even know what type of music was played. Is it rap, dance, or something else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    Funnily enough the girl who wrote that article would have been invisible to me in a night club 15 or 20 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,542 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    More of the same gatekeeping, being offended by what other people do. Sub par leaving cert English essay.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/people/arid-41455819.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Are ye getting offended by AI articles again?

    🙈🙉🙊



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Lgt


    If she is uncomfortable, she should leave. You can go dancing at any age.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Well since she is OK with age discrimination, I guess she is all for gender discrimination as well…

    Well the paper gets it's click bait and she get an embarrassing article that will follow her around for life….

    And you can absolutely guarantee it will appear on any backgrund check ordered by a future employer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭nice bit of green


    dnb classics in London. We try and get over once a year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭thehairygrape


    I know this article is just click bait, and by commenting I’m buying in to it, but here goes anyway.

    When I was 20, not only was gay marriage illegal: being gay was illegal. Illegal! Condoms were illegal. Divorce was illegal. Married women were not allowed work in the public service. Corporal punishment was allowed and encouraged in schools. Abortion was illegal. The Catholic Church controlled the government, the Press, schools and hospitals.
    What changed? Young people going out and protesting and simply deciding enough was enough (being part of the EU greatly helped). Young women not accepting the status quo. Sit-ins. Strikes. Squatting. The Cork Examiner (as was) was a cheer leader for the status quo. No young person would have been caught dead writing for them. Wouldn’t have been allowed anyway.

    It’s quite sad to see a young 20 year old write such and ageist, discriminatory, reactionary piece for the Examiner. The Examiner!
    I’ve never liked nightclubs. But if someone wants to go to one good luck to them. 20, 30, 40, 90, who cares?
    If the writer doesn’t like it, don’t go. Go out and protest against climate change, or the scandalous cost of rent and housing, or the wars in Gaza and Ukraine and everywhere else. Or the fact that we’ve developed a financial system that moves public wealth and services in to private hands. Now that’s something you can blame my generation for.

    But nightclubs? For the Examiner? No. Just no.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,234 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Sadly the days of the radical student are over it seems. Bought out by commercialism and the rise of self interest. Seeing some of them mobilising on anti-fascist protests, which is great to see, but we are indeed a long way from the days we both remember. The likes of Joe Duffy RTE was once a very vocal student activist, little did we know that the way he sold out once he got inside the gates was going to be the future, generally in student politics. So many of them (that era's radicals) did the same. In many ways this young lady and her attitude is as a result of the above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    20 years ago this year, 21 year old Akrasia was getting water cannoned outside the gates of the Phoenix park as part of an anti globalisation protest,

    2004 Dublin May Day protests - Wikipedia

    This young lady has chosen to protest against having to be near 40 year olds in night clubs

    What a tale she will have to pass on to her children



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,631 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Be interesting to know if she is aware she is being used and doesn't care? After all the free tickets to gigs and festivals and advertised secret midnight gigs are handy and a bit of controversy never did a journalist/media/writers career any harm.

    Or

    Is she completely unaware what's happening.



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭thehairygrape


    In her own cack-handed way she was trying to (badly) make a point about age discrimination. By advocating age discrimination. If she wants to make her point, them advocate and agitate for change. She’ll find a lot of older people supporting her. But by taking the path she’s taken, all sympathy is lost.
    It would have been very easy to ignore the article or treat it like a joke, but it’s challenging such views is how the social change in Ireland happened. Watching the US in particular regress as it’s doing makes it all the more important to continue the fight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,908 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    OP is a big fan or ageism.

    Only an oddball would try so desperately to tell others how they should live their lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Maybe over 40s should wear a star so we know who they are. And court case to follow if they get caught in a nightclub.

    its funny the way she is 20 but talks about her being 18 as if it was 20 years ago.

    she needs a night on mushrooms or MDMA, then she would see how stupid her article is.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭thehairygrape


    That’s very bold😄. Afraid the reference would be lost on the younger audience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,458 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Has she never heard of the Equal Status Act. Whether the piece is supposed to be light hearted or not, what other groups covered by the Act would she, facilitated by The Examiner, like to mock or propose banning from niteclubs. Black people? Travellers? Homosexuals?

    In the unlikely event that this clown is ever involved in recruiting and hiring anyone and if they feel they have been discriminated against on the basis of age - field day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Ageism is the last remaining acceptable discrimination.

    Cheaper fees in my golf club the younger you are. Imagine doing that based on any other demographic.

    Can't remember the last time I was in coppers and I'm 39. I remember the last time I was in palace in its older guise. I realised the gig was up when everyone was wearing runners 😂

    I wouldn't stop doing anything but I definitely need more luxury the older I get. A camper van for EP etc. I enjoy the money middle age affords me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,362 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I’ve banned myself from nightclubs since I was a teenager, and saw just how sh1t they are. 50 now, and I’ve been a grumpy old curmudgeon for over 60% of my life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,681 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Thought the lockdown killed off most of the nightclubs.

    Some seem to be re opening again but for most people over 25 I'd imagine late bars are where its at these days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Those things changed because student radicals took over the levers of power, not because the people in charge of those levers were afraid of student radicals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,362 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Hold on. Isn’t that they young wan who wrote an article a while back about being afraid to use the phone? Who couldn’t even answer to a friend unless there was a warning text first to advise there was a call incoming? We’re supposed to take her opinion seriously? Feck that. I might have to go to some godawful nightclub out of spite! 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭techdiver


    I'm 43 and this just reminded me that I must go to a nightclub tonight.



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭thehairygrape


    Interesting point. But things still changed, socially at least. I’d hate to see us going backwards.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭yagan


    I can't help feel that the Examiner is grooming her as rage bait. It's very exploitive.

    BTW, the last time I was at the EP I was in my thirties and there were a good contingent of much older folks which added to the chilled vibe.

    There's no way I'd camp now but we're planning on getting a campervan in the coming years and I'd definitely be on for something the EP and other festivals around the EU.



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭thehairygrape


    can't help feel that the Examiner is grooming her as rage bait. It's very exploitive


    Think you’re right. But it’s a rock and a hard place. I know I shouldn’t react to it but by letting it go you’re almost condoning it. So you give them exactly what they want. Free clicks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Luna84


    Over 40 or 40 and above? 🤣 You don't make it clear. I'm 40 on the dot but I haven't been to a night club in a few years so that ugly young woman who wrote the article has nothing to worry about seeing me in a night club.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    There's a facebook page called "raved in the 90's" This clown should look at it and see the videos of people in their 20's 30's 40's 50's 60's who were all able to enjoy a night out mixing together. Now we have the current crew her age who think every man over 40 is a sexual predator and if he smiles at her the Gards are called to have this deviant arrested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,524 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    20 year old needs a lesson in ageism.

    Whomever in the Irish Examiner that approved this person's "pieces" for publication needs a kick in the arse (and also a lesson in ageism).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,474 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Just another Irish journalist stealing a living writing any garbage that might possibly spark some sort of controversy.

    "Old people are like, so old" said every generation in history.

    I genuinely feel human beings are getting dumber by the minute.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭yagan


    I doubt anyone in her age bracket actually reads the examiner. I know when I was at that age I was too busy out socialising, which included going to lots of live music attended by people of all ages. Nightclubs obviously tended to have a younger cohort, but pubs weren't certainly not age segregated.

    It really is pitiful publishing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭yagan


    I think it's more than that. I don't think it's the writer stealing the living, but the publisher exploiting a naive person as a conduit to profit from the type of divisive clickbait that defines unregulated social media.

    It's a black card for the examiner.

    Edit to add that considering they are now part of the same group as the Irish Times they'd have learned from the fake tan cultural appropriation ragebait incident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    A light-hearted article written by a young woman seems to be getting under the skin of some men. Probably the sort that think Michael O’Leary would be a great Taoiseach; that Ian O’Doherty talks a lot of sense, that Kevin Myers was badly treated, and that any music released since 1998 is terrible.

    Being young is a great advantage, since we see the world from a new perspective and we are not afraid to make radical changes - Greta Thunburg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,524 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    And you can absolutely guarantee it will appear on any backgrund check ordered by a future employer.

    Good point.

    She probably thinks she is being witty and edgy. I blame the parents.



  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭thehairygrape


    if it was written by a young man I’d have the same reaction. I think Michael O’Leary would make an awful Taoiseach. No idea who O’Doherty is. Haven’t heard of Myers for years and good riddance. Love lots of new music. The latest Daniel O’Donnell release was a belter.
    The old light hearted trope has been used by men for eons to harass women. “Get ‘em out love, sure it’s just light-hearted banter”.

    No, that article needs challenging.



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