Oasis Reunion. Its finally happening😱

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568150#Comment_122568150

I've heard a few people here say that this is touting etc and see a few politicians gaining some brownie points by saying Ticketmaster should be investigated etc.

But this really is like the airlines. Nobody HAS to buy an Oasis ticket. The reason they are so dear is because so many people are looking to buy them, you can see it on here even. The only way you reduce ticket prices is by reducing demand. Otherwise you end up with price controls(which for something like this would be interesting from a legal perspective) and at the end of the day.....if you do such a thing then you make the country it happens in less enticing for artists to visit in the first instance(obviously)

Perhaps you could question Ticketmaster a monopolistic position, but let's all remember what can happen when you go legislating to ensure fairer competition in a market.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568424#Comment_122568424

Does you company get told how to set their fees/product prices because it would be highly unlikely.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568337#Comment_122568337

I just assumed the cheapest tickets available would be standing. They usually are.

NIMAN

We hear all the guff about how evil ticket touts are, yet the sellers of the tickets are basically no better.

Do the government care? Not a jot.

willowthewisp

cheapest should be the back of the davitt stand.

delly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568502#Comment_122568502

For Coldplay, the cheapest at €67 were at the very top of the Davin upper stand.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568477#Comment_122568477

how come when tickets were printed in paper and announced at a particular price and you queued up over night for the big gigs you payed the advertised price but now you don’t. What’s changed? As I said earlier in the thread if the tickets went up pre advertised at 450 quid how many nights would then sell out? It’s dodgy at best.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568521#Comment_122568521

To be fair, I'd reckon as an 'experience' the Coldplay gigs are tens of times better than Oasis gigs, unless they completely up their game. I thought the Coldplay tickets were mental money last year. I was badly wrong.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568531#Comment_122568531

What's changed? Is that a serious question?

nc6000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568512#Comment_122568512

Could it be one for the EU to look at? I know there was a bill in the Dàil a while back proposed by Noel Rock but he wasn't re-elected, not sure what happened to it or if it would have helped today.

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568539#Comment_122568539

Why is it accepted that prices just change on a whim now when they didn’t before. Obviously the method of delivery has changed

spakman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568541#Comment_122568541

Yeah, would need an EU approach. If Ireland went on a solo run to crackdown on Ticketmaster/MCD/Artists, they'd just stop coming here as much as they currently do.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568544#Comment_122568544

There's literally hundreds of interlinked things that have changed since those days.....

suvigirl

I didn't get a presale code. I did get tickets at 1033 Euro for two, upper cusack. Didn't buy them, but someone did and I don't begrudge them at all.

Noone is forced to buy tickets and no-one deserves them more then anyone else. That's life lads. Build a bridge. This craic of TDs and the like giving out is ridiculous! It's a concert. It's not governments business to get involved.

oppiuy

Gonna be a lot of people stuck with €400+ tickets that they can't shift next year. I was hoping for extra dates this morning after failing but seeing the bullshit I'll give those a miss, if they happen. Funny that LG played all of definitely maybe in Belfast and Limerick and wasn't sold out.. seems like folks just love to say they were there and don't really care what's actually happening.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568547#Comment_122568547

It would and I'd argue that any business or indeed artist that was restricted from trading based on an enforced law, would have a good case to challenge such a law particularly on a scale such as this or with such a service.

Again think of any areas where price controls have been introduced(in Ireland even) and ask yourself, have they achieved what they set out to do.....

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568552#Comment_122568552

I know digital downloads killing record sales and all of the shift in where the income comes from for artists. I’m not arguing against high prices for anticipated gigs. I’m more arguing against dynamic pricing as it’s termed. It stops the marketers having to gauge real interest and sucks in lots of people that wouldn’t give a toss about the act normally but have to be at the big gig of the year just because they do. Suppose that’s probably the idea really 🤷‍♂️

nc6000

I see a few batches of tickets are up on Toutless already. How is that allowed?

johnny_ultimate

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568541#Comment_122568541

Ireland does have pretty robust anti-touting laws. It’s why you can now often get tickets to most gigs for cost price or lower through Ticketmaster’s own resale service. It has IMO made a welcome and noticeable difference.

But it’s not robust enough given they’ve obviously found workarounds like surge pricing and ‘platinum’ tickets to keep prices artificially high, and direct the profit straight towards Ticketmaster, promoters and the artists. There does seem like some political will there to push Ticketmaster concerns to EU level after today’s fiasco - hopefully not just attention seeking bluster to grab some headlines, but something actually followed through on.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568564#Comment_122568564

Again, the individual doesn't have to buy the tickets at the price offered. From what I saw today I don't think there was much dynamic pricing going on, just different categories of tickets/experience.

If you were to have an issue and I'd agree, it was that the various ticketing prices were not disclosed prior to the release date, just that 'from 86 euro speil' that in fairness many business used to get customers in when there may only be a very small percentage of goods available at that price.

But again, it is very clear to the purchaser when they have the options available to them, what the pricing options are.

forumdedum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122564190#Comment_122564190

Fools are easily parted with their money.

thecretinhop

Hmm sounds right https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2024/0831/1467676-huge-possibility-that-bots-are-buying-oasis-tickets/

COH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568567#Comment_122568567

Why wouldnt it be? Its face value only over there

TenPicnics

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568359#Comment_122568359

Please, take 5 mins and find your own answer by GOOGLING, or even here, in this actual thread! Can't believe the lazy questions on Boards. Is the concept of doing a bit of research too much for such busy people (with such money to throw around)?

flyer_query

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568343#Comment_122568343

They are the only game in town and once they had the market, there was no space for anyone to sell tickets. 

It's a lot more complicated than that but put simply, ticketmaster is a live nation company, and live nation also own mcd, and also own some venues including the 3 arena and have agreements with others. So they're entrenched everywhere. It would be impossible to compete with them.

TenPicnics

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568477#Comment_122568477

Nope. Glastonbury.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568599#Comment_122568599

Glastonbury isn't legally obligated to do what they do.....

As far as I am aware the artists fees from Glastonbury are completely different to other gigs.....which I'd say has an impact on the costs to run the thing.

Glastonbury tickets are great value compared to this shitshow.

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568567#Comment_122568567

People buying tickets last night and getting better tickets this morning.

Or friends/relatives getting spares with more desirable spots/prices.

TenPicnics

Kippy, you and your like = the problem.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568614#Comment_122568614

No, the problem is people willing to pay over the odds for tickets to gigs and feeling like they HAVE to go.....

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568561#Comment_122568561

Yeah and nobody is complaining outside of prospective ticket buyers who are just out of joint over not getting tickets or them being too expensive. I guarantee that Ticketmasters ultimate client (i.e. Oasis) are thrilled right now. As a ticket-buyer, the buyer (not aiming this at you Kippy) is not owed anything. You can buy the ticket or if you don't like it, you can pass. TM's client will get paid. Those who bought tickets got their tickets. Job done. They have no legal or moral obligation to anyone who didn't buy a ticket.

Airlines do the exact same thing. Think of a destination with one carrier flying the route. They charge what they like depending on demand.

Artists are free to work around ticketmaster and sell their tickets on eventbrite or tickets.ie in a non-ticketmaster venue. But they don't, because they're happy with the service - whether we like it or not.

And again, I'm not justifying the price or system but people are going on like Ticketmaster are a state body that owes them something.

lukin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568585#Comment_122568585

Sure I logged on there now to search and I got told I was a bot. Clearing the cache and using a different browser made no difference. It goes by the ip address, not the logged on user.

TenPicnics

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568601#Comment_122568601

Oasis and Taylor and AC/DC and all the rest who opt for dynamic pricing are not legally obligated to fkk the punters either. Some folks don't seem to get that in life one has choices sometimes, and SOME people don't always opt for the money option, especially when they're rich already. Even acts who could, frequently don't go for the scalp. Oasis, Taylor & the rest are now the opposite of rock and roll. I won't add "just like their fans in 2024"

Oscar_Madison

Disappointing for fans I must say - hope if the new gigs are going ahead you’ll be more successful - probably only a handful of people I’d pay top dollar for at this stage so my extraordinary prices days are over.

appreciate how these gigs came about but can’t help but think the whole quick announcement coupled with the very quick sale was part of the promotional plan to drive interest, no hysteria , to the max, hence driving up prices .

They’ve taken the piss in terms of “ticket prices from…” - as someone else here said, the lowest price advertised would tend to be standing - that’s ALL standing - except maybe a pit in more recent years-but times have changed drastically - it is what it is now - at least we know - any other “reunion” band likely to adopt the same model - quick announcement- rapid route to ticket sales - scalping - don’t envy fans - maybe route to go for younger people is see every 15-30 euro gig you can - one of them will be a mega band /artist of the future

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568684#Comment_122568684

I didn't say they were, they are free currently to price what they like. That's for them to choose.

If you don't like it, don't 'support' them.

We all have choices in this game. The artist, promotors, ticket sellers, consumers etc etc

Being accused of being "The problem" earlier in this thread is hilarious.

Lots of people looking for someone else to blame - standard fare nowadays unfortuantely.

musicmania

That's a really good point.

Edit. Sorry hit reply instead of quote. Was agreeing it needs to be an EU wide thing rather than Ireland going out alone.

DeanAustin

Can’t believe the self entitlement of people. Hearing nothing but people complaining about not getting tickets.

There were 500,000 people who logged on I believe. There are 160,000 tickets. That’s 340,000 - 460,000 people who weren’t gonna get tickets no matter what way they were sold or distributed.

Yeah it’s **** but that’s life. No one was entitled to get a ticket.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568592#Comment_122568592

Watch you don't fall off that high horse.

Caps too. Nice.

geographica

Whineline gonna be busy Monday 🤣

vswr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd2Yf6RtI6I

Think you got this free with some Golden Discs or newspaper deal… savage anyway

Hoboo

May both concerts be littered with empty bot seats and may the heavens split open like a hairy axe wound.

Failing that, may they both kill each other in Cardiff.

Amen.

Lollipop95

Quite annoying seeing so many Americans saying they have tickets for the Irish shows. And no doubt lots of English fans attending too. Ticketmaster really messed up by selling the Irish dates an hour before the UK ones. With so much demand I reckon they have to announce more Croke Park dates. A concert account on Instagram, who's been very reliable before with it comes to insider info, reckon they'll announce two more Dublin dates either during the week or by next Saturday. I'll hope for Presale this time if true!

oppiuy

Ive a feeling they will be a huge let down. Extra dates won't sell out with that pricing, and would only create further anger if folks paying less than the original dates. Was content that I'd pick up tickets next year as people shift then due to circumstances but wouldn't be paying any of those prices for them. Liam was great in Thomond but not €153+ great 😃

mossy464

Saturday date is still allowing you to search but Sunday not. Are tickets still popping up for anyone?

drury..

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568584#Comment_122568584

Thread full of posters driving the demand while complaining about the price

Go figure

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568721#Comment_122568721

Not a hope.

You don't mess with concert promoters in Ireland and get away with it.

This platform knows this only too well.

bennyl10

they may not have space to add more dates

Like it sucks, but people miss out on tickets, it happens. Demand was simply insane

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568723#Comment_122568723

you’d forget how much they’d absolutely rock a place in their pomp. Hope they can recapture that form next year.

cantalach

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568553#Comment_122568553

When a business has a monopoly in any market it is the responsibility of a regulator or government to act. TicketMaster and MCD effectively have a monolopoly in ticket sales and promotion respectively.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568541#Comment_122568541

Do we think Liam and Noel will stand before an Oireachtas committee on their gigs pricing 😆