Oasis Reunion. Its finally happening😱

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568827#Comment_122568827

Do Oasis themselves not take any of the blame here?

only_a_newbie

well my wife can no longer buy tickets on Ticketmaster… an absolute fiasco trying to get tickets this morning with TM thinking she is a bot and her account is now suspended. She can't even search for tickets, thank god she saved her and my daughters tickets to Wicked to her wallet last week or she'd be unable to access them.

where does she go from here???

eggy81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568855#Comment_122568855

The words are coming out all weird.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568553#Comment_122568553

€1033 for 2 seated, does that include fees? I think that's the most expensive I've seen, fair play if they can afford it

The demand is high, I cannot think of another band reunion that was so long in the making, every year it was talked about and now finally happening, this year Oasis back together and CM Punk back in WWE, who had these on a bingo list

Do we know if they are releasing anything, new song or previous unreleased song?

Motivator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568855#Comment_122568855

people have had tickets cancelled today in similar enough circumstances. So she needs to get an answer on those tickets asap.

hold my beer

Did many/any get standing tickets at 127 in the presale? Someone saying they did on ATN thread. I thought all standing were 179.

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568827#Comment_122568827

They don't have a monopoly on promotion. Aiken also exist.

All Ticketmaster do is sell tickets at the request of the artist.

jazz_jazz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568871#Comment_122568871

I got standing last night for 176.75 including booking fee

cantalach

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568854#Comment_122568854

The media reports the other day quoted a specific amount that N&L would earn from the shows (£95M or something like that). That suggests to me that their cut of the takings is set in stone and that it is MCD/TM who is benefiting from the dynamic pricing. But maybe that’s an incorrect interpretation on my part.

hold my beer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568882#Comment_122568882

Sory yeah it was 177. Thought all standing tickets were that.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568748#Comment_122568748

Moany McMoan! So what if other nationalities got tickets to find in Ireland. Jees, you'd swear is Irish were not allowed to see gigs in other countries.

I'd recommend it, works out much cheaper & you get a trip somewhere else😁

suvigirl

Yawn. ticketmaster sell tickets, they don't set the prices or amount of tickets

suvigirl

Yep, including fees. Too rich for nosebleed tickets for me anyway! Good luck to whomever got them 😊

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568864#Comment_122568864

10000maniacs

It's not Ticketmaster who press the "in demand pricing" button, it's the band themselves. Their decision. A Gallagher money grab.

It's like a live auction to maximize revenue.

I'm out, but was out from the start anyway.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568861#Comment_122568861

Where are you now, when I need you?

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568885#Comment_122568885

Ya I see what your saying but couldn't they live a comfortable life on 90 million instead? It's like a soccer player demanding 250k a week when he's offered 200k a week and the club say sorry fans we have to increase ticket prices to cover all the wages. Surely if those numbers are correct it must be them demanding the 95m.

dulpit

The commentary today seems to be all about how ticketmaster are screwing people.

Now ticketmaster have a lot to answer for from a technical point of view. Being in queues and getting to the top of the queue and then having it crash, having their servers being unable to cope, that's on them. Do better ticketmaster.

But the underlying anger seems to be about the price, and the random increased prices (this surge pricing). This is for Oasis to own. They would have agreed a price for tickets and would have agreed for the surge pricing too; they elected to make more money knowing that the market would be there. Whether it's right or wrong is another question, but it's up to them to own it.

I've seen a clip loads of times of Kurt Cobain and Dave Grohl being amazed thst Madonna was charging like $50 for tickets when they charged something like $15. I'm guessing Dave Grohl today also charges crazy prices (I haven't seen how much Foos charge). They need to make money to survive, but they can decide whether they want to make some money or more money. Which is fine, they're entitled to it. But they should be asked about it.

At the Coldplay gig on Thursday Chris Martin thanked people for coming and acknowledged how much of a pain it can be to get to gig. I don't know how much my ticket was (it was a gift), but I'd imagine they also could have charged less and still made a tidy profit.

Buddy Bubs

My Ticketmaster account is suspended now. WTF is that all about

I didn't buy any tickets and gave up after 5 mins when I saw queue size

billyhead

Tickets to concerts were distributed much fairer back in the day when queing outside the TM selling agent such as Stephens green shopping centre. Now it's just pot luck. If I log into the portal the exact same time as 1000 other people for example how is it decided that one person is number 1 in the queue and another 1000?

geographica

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568802#Comment_122568802

You do ticketmaster, Duffy hates them

dulpit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568940#Comment_122568940

The bit I can't understand is that there are certain people I know and who I see here online who always seem to get tickets. I don't know if there's magic involved, or secret links or a hidden trick to do it, but some people seem to be lucky.

The 2 times I've tried to get tickets for a big gig (today and Coldplay) I was in the 100,000s in queues to gave up immediately. I don't know if there's an obvious way to improve the odds other than presale codes or something else?

nc6000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568940#Comment_122568940

Apparently it's random, you're being lobbed into a queue with hundreds of thousands of people and could end up with 400k ahead of you like I did.

TenPicnics

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568689#Comment_122568689

You are the problem because you have posted comments that claim to justify this greed. Fact: this sht practice is relatively new, and unfortunately there seems to be a lot of money swilling around in the pockets of people who will pay whatever it takes to be at the gig (and watch it through their phones). It is not a good development. Thankfully there are still lots of great gigs at normal prices year round. You probably won't be at them.

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568917#Comment_122568917

I'm sure they could but Oasis (or any artist) can do what they want. If they wanted 200m, they could ask for it - its their livelihood. They're not a charity and much like anyone in any job, they get what they can for it.

The reality which a lot of people seem to be missing is that 180,000 tickets were sold at the prices they were sold for. So people can love it or hate it, but the tickets sold out and punters were happy to pay the prices. So the pricing model Oasis pursued did the job..

reubenreuben

I'm amazed with all the Ticketmaster supporters on here.

Are you all right in the head?

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568964#Comment_122568964

It's really not that new.

I remember Adele tickets going for €500 each many years ago on Viagogo. The only difference was that years ago, it was a professional tout making money in the margin.

Don't forget that the law to stop reselling came about because there was outrage over people buying tickets to resell them at massive mark-ups.

Sure look at Bruce Springsteen who essentially said he was happy to charge dynamic prices for gigs because (and I'm paraphrasing) "why should I sell a ticket for €100 and someone else sells it for €300 and makes a €200 profit? I'll sell it for €300 myself".

watchclocker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568952#Comment_122568952

I'm one of them people

I always get a ticket to a gig I want tickets for I'm known for it ha

Not always first time though either on toutles or through luck on late TM releases

I didn't get all the tickets I wanted today but I got some and maybe closer I'll get croke park tickets too

I could have paid the high price but chose nro to, I don't blame others for choosing to pay it

I left for a few hours and there's been a million posts, most of them upset with each other, don't be upset with your fellow fans it's a waste

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568964#Comment_122568964

I haven't posted comments justifying greed. I've posted some basic logical conclusions that one would come to having looked at all the variables.

We all make choices, no one is forcing us to:

Buy the latest and greatest piece of tech, car, branded clothes etc etc

This is the same.

You have a number of people who have chosen how to set the ticket pricing and you have a number of people who chose whether to buy at that price or not. It really is that simple. Thats not justifying greed. That's point out what is/has happened.

As for me and people like me being the problem. I have no control over the overall situation. I amn't the problem. Those that engage with and pay the prices listed are the problem. You can blame the artist/promoter/ticketmaster/venue/deity of your choice but none of those would set the prices how they do if people didn't engage.

Lots of practices (countless) are "relatively new" - I don't agree with them all - some I can avoid or decide not to engage with.

As someone said earlier, with the amount of demand for these tickets you'd never keep everyone happy.

As for me being at gigs this year, I'll probably be at the same amount that I've been to in the past 12 months - 2 or 3, all small and probably with my kids. I am well past gigging regularily.

nc6000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568969#Comment_122568969

It's mad after the shambles today.

TenPicnics

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568716#Comment_122568716

High horse? WTF?! Was pointing out the obvious, sheesh! I read stuff on here before I ask questions, especially during a high volume ticket sale. Caps was to emphasise the obvious source of an answer to the question asked.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568969#Comment_122568969

What posters are "supporting" ticketmaster and how exactly are they doing it?

The ones who've bought tickets………the only people on here who've supported ticketmaster in any meaningful way……..?

reubenreuben

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568992#Comment_122568992

Definitely them and Maybe a few others.

TenPicnics

@kippy

"Buy the latest and greatest piece of tech, car, branded clothes etc etc

This is the same."

Yes, there you have it, in your own words. Sad.

kippy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569006#Comment_122569006

I really don't understand why you have a problem with my commentary but as with most other things, I will make the choice not to be too bothered with the opinion of a stranger on the internet - as I am sure you've chosen to do with me at this point.

No one is forcing you to engage with buying any of those items - same as these tickets - fairly simple concept.

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568965#Comment_122568965

Which brings me back to my original point. Oasis set the prices but a lot of people here seem to be blaming everyone except the band themselves for the pricing.

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569028#Comment_122569028

Yep exactly, full agree with you! Blame the band. The ticketmaster are the devil narrative by some posters is the epitome of shooting the messenger.

jazz_jazz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569028#Comment_122569028

I would expect that the band themselves would have had nothing to do with pricing, it would have been their management that would have taken care of all that.

The Golden Miller

I didn't get a ticket. They say they won't but they will play some of the festivals. They'll quite possibly play EP or Slane. We're at the point, there's no band big enough anymore to sell out Slane who hasn't played it already, with the exception of Blur possibly, but thats a non runner as Mountcharles and Albarn got in a disagreement before. So Slane will definitely be pushing for Oasis to play, no matter what anyone in the Oasis camp says.

I've seen them twice, Beady Eye once and Liam solo once, so not too fussed really. It probably is better if a younger crowd got to see them, to show them what real music is again. Depressing the amount of people going to Coldplay, get them youngsters into Oasis to show them what it's really about.

forumdedum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568773#Comment_122568773

Oasis are not worth that money. Simple. You think this forum is driving demand? Right

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569037#Comment_122569037

Their management? Liam/Noel (like all big artists) ultimately sign off on everything.

The Golden Miller

How are royalties divided amongst the band does anyone know? Does Noel for example "own" the songs, and gets a larger cut everytime an album is sold or a song played? Like some bands, Blur for example, it's 25% each, they all get an equal cut of everything, and own an equal share of all songwriting credits, despite Albarn writing all the songs generally. That's what they agreed at the start. Like will the other Oasis members get shafted, or do they even receive anything, including Liam, when it comes to royalties.

These are crap, but there was an interesting documentary on them after Take That was reformed, and it was about East 17 and where they were now. Uniquely, Take That and East 17 are the only boyands who wrote their own songs, that being Gary Barlow and Tony Mortimer respectively. But in East 17's case, 3 of the members, since the group had long disbanded were all back in full time jobs, with the exception of Tony, who was in a mansion. He wrote the songs, but literally kept all the money, the others seemed to have no cut whatsoever.

Like is that unusual, or would the primary songwriter get a larger cut, but everyone else also getting a %, or is it different from band to band I wonder? There was also a radio show about the Manics Richey Edwards not so long ago, and after he went missing, a cut from his royalties, to this day, go into an account for his family which I also thought was interesting

cantalach

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568873#Comment_122568873

But MCD is by far the larger, and it is owned by LiveNation, which also owns TicketMaster. That’s too much power.

Avon8

Do we seriously think Noel is being sat down and asked "there's standard tickets but we've these special extiornate market value tickets that we'll screw everyone on, we need you to approve though and sign here".

I've no doubt this is a cash in for Noel (less so Liam who has much less rights in the brand), but seriously? They're, by and large, getting given an overall contracted fee for all the gigs

The promoter is MCD. Owned by LiveNation. Who also owns Ticketmaster. Id imagine the premium price idea is LiveNations somehow

Aside from LiveNation being bastards, there's a serious amount of crying about pricing and availability. This is not the GAA, they don't have a responsibility to grow soft rock amongst the grassroots. If you don't like the price, you can choose to abstain. Plenty clearly did think the price was reasonable, hence the scarcity, and the main reason you couldn't get tickets

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569046#Comment_122569046

What happened between Albarn and Mountcharles? Big Blur fan so genuinely curious.

Jaffa3000

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568969#Comment_122568969

Not defending Ticketmaster by any means but they get a lot of ire for things that they enable (platinum tickets) while not actually being the root cause, which is that Oasis opted in to the pricing structure

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568973#Comment_122568973

this really is it. The promotors did not sort the “touts” for the consumers benefit. They were annoyed about the margin they were missing out on.

I don’t see why people are moaning. It’s stupid money. If you can afford it well and good. If you can’t hard luck. Supply and demand. The lottery system is probably the fairest. I missed out today. Life long fan (well first 4 albums in my teens). Never saw them. See Noel with HFB last year…..not a sell out. Liam was amazing this year for definately maybe (not a sell out).

Where the **** were the 400k infront of me for them gigs in the last year. But their money is the same as mine. And the same as some lads who saw them live 20 times.

Another 2 gigs will be the same story if released. I will happily pay 500 for a standing ticket if I can get one.

MattressRick

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569083#Comment_122569083

It's more like fifteen people sitting around a conference room with Noel and Liam, and them saying that pricing will be similar to all recent gigs, with the cheapest tickets going for X pounds, and the lads thinking that sounds fair enough. The unspoken details, the small print, is that they'll hike the same tickets at the last minute like a tout would.

DeanAustin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569046#Comment_122569046

I saw Oasis in 2005 in The Point and they were decent but not amazing. Liam’s got charisma and a voice but there are much better frontmen in terms of working a crowd and putting on a show.

Saw him in Thomand a few weeks ago too and he was worth the ticket price and it was enjoyable but not enough that I’d stress myself out to get a ticket for this. And I’ve been a big Oasis, Noel/Liam fan for 20 years or so. The FOMO is incredible. Guarantee the gigs will be decent but far from exceptional.

On another note, I genuinely had no idea Coldplay were anywhere near popular enough to sell out Croke Park for 4 nights. Amazed at that. Decent band but that’s about it IMO.

cantalach

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122568898#Comment_122568898

Right, MCD sets the prices, but they and TM are essentially the same thing because both are owned by LiveNation. So for TM to be coming out with the “don’t blame us - we’re just doing what the promoter tells us” line is horseshĩt.

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569103#Comment_122569103

If that even was the case (which it probably isn't), it's still on them to read "the small print".