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Oasis Reunion. Its finally happening😱

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭phonypony


    Your last sentence is just akin to victim blaming. You can't afford to pay the ridiculous, greedy, unjust prices, so that's your own fault.

    I find it remarkable that anyone should try to justify this greed while **** on the punter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    the Gallaghers - voice of the Everyman etc etc - are up to their necks in this. IMHO they are no where near worth the money nor is their music …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭T.V Eye


    I wouldn't be a fan but I think it's impressive that Coldplay were a big indie band when I was a teenager and 20 years later they are one of the biggest pop bands on the planet with a huge teen following. I don't follow them enough to have seen that journey but it's rare enough.

    I seen them about 20 years ago in Marlay Park because Interpol were supporting. I'd say a good chunk of people that day don't even list to them now. A total refresh of your audience is mad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭COH


    People can be as indignant and annoyed as they want over the pricing - but the fact remains that if Oasis announce more shows they will sell out again in seconds.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭riddles


    they played it well announcing the reunion and selling tickets in very close step cashing in on the frenzy - preventing the obvious time to reflect on what Oasis were and what we are likely to get 30 years on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭ratracer


    There’s definitely, maybe a bit of truth to that alright.
    It’s really only out of the college era nostalgia that I’m going for. Even at €166 standing to hear two of the most annoying w@nker$ on the planet moaning!! But sure it’ll be a grand day out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    I'd be one of the originals. Can't remember last time I listened to Coldplay. They are like a different band now.

    Oasis similar. 2 albums in , and utter boring afterwards



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭Mike Guide 69


    Interesting to see that the platinum tickets tab has been removed from the app ,I randomly went onto the app last night and there was a ticket (platinum) ,upper 705 ,near the seagulls ,including the fee was €512 ,needless to say I didn’t take it!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Agree. It always seems to the posters who have loads to write that condone Ticketmasters behaviour.

    Wouldn't be surprised if they had vested interests tbh.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭riddles


    Ticketmaster seems to put at lot of work into maintaining their trustlilot ranking with fake reviews. Not sure why given their monopoly scenario here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,491 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Never go to something bandwagoners want to go to, one of the rules I live by. I saw Liam this year in 3 arena for 80 euro, I bet that was a better gig than what will follow in Croke park.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭Justin10


    5m over 17 shows at say 60k people per show is a fiver per ticket cheaper.

    Shows how much that ticket money gets chopped up and how many fingers are in the pie



  • Registered Users Posts: 205 ✭✭Charlo30


    Two Brothers who seem to have a clear dislike of each other going on a reunion tour purely for the money. What could possibly go wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    LG is only worth 8 or 9 million. And has recently bought a fancy house for a few million that he has to spend a lot of money on. Plus all those kids and divorces. Needs a few bob.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Exactly, the Noel and Liam are the management. The big decisions are theirs...you would think



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    saw LG in Thomond park a few weeks ago. Was a brilliant night. Crowd cheering the Spanish goals against England could have went either way.😋DM and WTSMG were the first 2 cds I ever bought. Bought them together in 1996. Would love to see oasis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Titanium11


    We are talking about regulation of businesses.

    The very large irish company that I work for gets heavily regulated and audited every year for business practices.

    We are checked on the following things:

    We must give certain information to customers before they buy a product.

    We are not allowed to provide misleading information to customers

    We have to declare conflict of interests.

    We have to follow many fair standards practices set out by different regulations which protect customers .

    That's why I can't understand how ticketmaster are not being regulated. They seem to have a lot of conflicts of interest, which are affecting customers negatively.

    There is now a video on the front page of RTE news today where they are calling for ticketmaster to be investigated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭squonk


    Id say the truth is there isn’t much Ireland can do. This sort of investigation/regulation needs to be at EU level. You’re “service charge” and marked up prices are also, I’m sure, going towards a lobbying slush fund to deter those in power from taking these kinds of actions. I agree though, it’s no different from the EU forcing Apple for instance to open up the App Store and shift to USB-C. When big companies have the field to themselves the consumer suffers. Same here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭vswr


    it'll be a grand day out for all the parishes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,871 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Retired Ticketmaster exec on Anton savage show a few mins ago.
    Very bullish and assertive in supporting ticketmaster

    he said Ticketmaster is basically a revenue collection agency that takes its orders from the promoter of the concert

    Said the issue with oasis using dynamic pricing is not ticketmaster at all - ticketmaster simply does what the promoter asks - blame them and Oasis basically.

    Eff you greedy Gallagher brothers!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭ooter


    TM weren't the only ones selling Oasis tickets, see tickets and gigs and tours were selling them too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭macchoille


    I stand corrected on that part but Ticketmaster have now become touts themselves.

    My other other point about their IT resources (called scaling in tech speak) also holds. They knew in advance there would be heavy demand. They also knew from the queue size just before they opened of the demand. If they have a modern IT setup they can scale their systems in minutes, it will cost them more but only for the time they need them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭COH


    The touts are selling them for 800+ on gigsberg



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Surely it’s the band/promoter who decides on pricing and availability, they have the option of selling the tickets with fixed/dynamic pricing, and obviously the band/promoter earn more if demand pushes up prices if they make the choice to use dynamic pricing.

    I think your angst may be misplaced if it’s on cost/availability, certainly Ticketmaster should make it harder for bots to buy tickets, but sites often have to catch up with programmers who design these bots, after the fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,871 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Noel makes no apologies for all the plagiarism he did over the years -

    Cigs and alc - T Rex played a little faster.

    shaker maker - “coca cola” ad.

    Hello - Gary glitter.

    widespread copying of Beatles in many songs

    lyrics are often cringe /rhyming nonsense

    And he’s a greedy bollix too - while playing large on being “the man of the people”

    https://www.culturesonar.com/7-oasis-tracks-that-ripped-off-other-songs/



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 slideaway


    The reality is the dynamic pricing was probably one of the tempting factors for oasis to get back together. They were likely told this is how much you can make and made the decision based off that. . I get the fury but as others have said that's life, most would do the same.

    As many have said all the hits have been played in fields and arenas throughout Ireland for the past 15 years by Liam and or noel for 50-90 euro and we're great gigs but not huge demand, so it's mainly not big fans driving the demand.

    Thankfully most people I know that went to those gigs got tickets.

    I got presale but if it didn't would have been open to the 400+ tickets. I would likely have gone to a tout but now the risk of buying from a tout is removed which in some way is better for me. I paid 400 for a UK gig.

    My only real issue is the way it was advertised and wasn't up front from the start.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭macchoille


    I’d well believe it. I’d really love to see Oasis live but no chance would I (or be happy for the other half to) pay €400 a ticket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,871 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I wouldn’t pay 400 for a standing ticket even if it was Elvis himself back from the dead with the Vegas band.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,871 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Atmosphere will not be good at these gigs if oasis are not on form - ppl will be jostling and pushing,

    add in barrels of lager and spirits, hard drugs,

    Sh1t sound quality in croke park.

    ppl reflecting on spending a fortune for a standing ticket ffs and getting angrier and angrier as times goes on

    Paying a fortune for some kip accommodation and food and drink all jacked up crazy prices for all the mugs

    Tldr : If it is a miserable wet rainy night and oasis are below par things could get fairly dodgy



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,803 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    As I said, I have no issues with them being investigated for advertising practices, providing transparent pricing prior to tickets going on sale and any other thing you think might be of benefit. But ultimately the issue people really have is that there weren't enough tickets on sale to satisfy demand and some of those that were on sale were far too expensive. But it still sold out.

    Again, your company are not told how to set its prices, which again, appears to be what a lot of people are looking for here



  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭iMac Hunt


    I have a feeling that no more Croke Park gigs will be announced but that they might announce Slane for 2026 after Croke Park when the hype and FOMO will be peak, that is assuming they haven't fallen out before then after this tour!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Ticketmaster are still a large part of the problem. No competition.

    And the musicians pay their bills, so why would Ticketmaster want to change the system unless forced to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,568 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Delete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Del



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Would it make a difference if Oasis used another site to sell their tickets with dynamic pricing built in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Mrs Shuttleworth


    100% this. I remember seeing Oasis at Lansdowne Road way back. I enjoyed it, they were workmanlike and functional, sang the tunes and that was that, no trouble or fracas, but not particularly memorable or a must see.

    The Coldplay mania has me puzzled as well. I was there on Friday night. There were an awful lot of late teens / early twenties there and decked out in all the merch. Also a ferocious amount of professional types in their 40s that you'd know otherwise wouldn't go to a gig at all. Interested to hear others thoughts on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,568 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Ticketmaster advertised prices as 'from €86' and they were. The prices were displayed when checking out and all information was displayed prior to any commitment. The buyer can accept and pay or walk away. There was nothing misleading about what they did.

    Watch this space - nothing will happen because there was no wrongdoing.

    Were prices too high? Yeah. But that's not illegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,568 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    He's not wrong. But nobody here wants to believe it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭jj880


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/oasis-fans-hit-out-at-ticketmaster-over-higher-in-demand-prices-1667369.html

    It's stomach-churning to see preying on people's desperation and getting absolutely gouged like that.

    Good to see this getting lots of coverage. Also an idea for when the extra dates get added. Have a whatsapp raffle among friends for any tickets got without the massive markup. Its blatant underhanded gouging. Comparing this to airlines and hotels is nonsense.



  • Registered Users Posts: 47 dublingreen


    I've heard Noel in interviews saying what a travesty it is how little artists earn since streaming replaced record sales. I'd say he's very much approving of the in demand ticket sales.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Synergism


    If you really think that bands and "young people" in general don't have anything to say that's just a reflection of your own ignorance. We're in the middle of a really fruitful period of Irish music, bands in particular, who are consistently speaking about social and political issues. It's on your doorstep, you don't have to go far to seek it out. 

    Once they can keep it together Oasis will tour into 2026 and do another set of dates in Ireland when demand won't be nearly as high. The reunion is all about the money and they're not going to walk away and leave millions on the table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Competition is the key. Ticketmaster would be forced to rethink the fees structure for a start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Titanium11


    Did you see that Oasis's former drummer is out giving interviews now.

    He said "noel and Liam were always arguing"

    . And the former drummer that he quit the band himself after noel shouted at him about something

    Oasis definitely always bring the interesting stories, and controversy anyway!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,568 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    For the hundreth time, Oasis and their management set the fees. Competition wouldn't do anything to ticket prices.

    In the UK, they used both Gigs and Tours and Ticketmaster. It made no difference to pricing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Jaffa3000


    If dynamic pricing gets banned they’ll just end up raising the prices of all the normal tickets to compensate, or start doing it with a bit of tat and calling it a VIP ticket. I don’t like it at all but the Gallaghers like everybody else can charge what they want for their products and everybody can choose whether or not it’s worth it.

    Also worth noting that there are thousands of gigs every year which are completely unaffected by any of this, but nobody is interested in them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭squonk


    Looks like Ticketmaster and their friends are reading this thread and taking part. When you see posts clainjng “Tickets were advertised as ‘From €86’ and they were and that’s ok” and “Hotels and airlines do dynamic pricing. It’s grand/The ticket is worth what the market will pay/The touts aren’t getting the markup”


    Saying your pricing “From” is not OK. You aren’t even being upfront. You could sell 2 tickets at €86 and the rest for €186 and you satisfy the “From” condition. Also, not publishing your price list in advance is a massive no-no. It’s like Dunnes advertising milk for “from €2, making you queue for an hour before you get to the head, a guy pulls back a curtain, ushers you into a small room and tells you the milk is now €10 and you either take it or leave it. Some people decide that having queued for an hour they might just take it as there’ll be no milk left if they don’t and they can’t afford to go back into the queue anyway and risk the price rising further. Some will just decline. That’s the reality of what TM are doing. If you’re condoning that, maybe take a step back and think about it more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,783 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    100th time!.

    Just leave it as is then.

    And be screwed everytime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,568 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Loads of things are advertised as "From...". It's perfectly legal. Advertisements do not form a contract so they're perfectly entitled to say "Prices from". It's super frustrating for a punter when the price is higher but there's nothing illegal about it.



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