Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Redliketoast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122627937#Comment_122627937

When did they laugh at him………. or is that just more made up stuff?

Redliketoast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122627953#Comment_122627953

Clinton had all the advantages in 2016 and still lost. Do you know the name Donna Brazile?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626246#Comment_122626246

Worth noting that most 'trump businesses' are (or were) wholly owned by third parties that simply paid him a fee to license his name:

Trump’s name was on the building, but he didn’t own it. It belonged to Roger Khafif, who owned prime oceanfront real estate but couldn’t get financial backing for his 2011 construction project. He had licensed the Trump name, which costs him more than a third of the $220 million he’d raised to fund the project.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveolenski/2015/11/24/donald-trumps-real-secret-to-riches-create-a-brand-and-license-it/

And all that licensing was done under the Trump Organization which, famously, was just convicted of numerous counts of fraud, both for hush money payments and cooking its books to evade taxes and secure favorable loans.

Many other 'businesses' 'owned' by Trump were Trump-sponsored licensing deals, like Trump Home - Trump didn't set up any furniture company from the ground up or anything, but he paid a few to put his name on their stuff and let him sell it as Trump branded furniture the same way electronics stores and grocery stores pay established manufacturers of commodities to supply them with store-brand goods. Interestingly the Trump Home brand involved doing a lot of business with Dubai and Slovenia - 'America First,' eh? Oh, and the brand also failed and all the partners discontinued making **** for him.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626916#Comment_122626916

Number needs citation, I think I would have noticed if my car insurance premiums had doubled.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122627953#Comment_122627953

What "devastating effects" do you speak of exactly, or just going to leave it suitably vague?

Trump has already shrugged off the pet eating migrant criticisms with the aid of some hilarious remixes in the last week. He really is Teflon Don.

And now disturbed, purple-haired Marxists back in the news with their desperate attempts to shut down the very democracy they cry about losing.

King Mob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628086#Comment_122628086

Weird. What's to shrug off about the comments?

I thought the line was what he said wasn't racist cause it was true.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122627957#Comment_122627957

How about this - Trump , globally untrusted and horrendous confidence levels from all major global countries.

He's a laughing stock and considered a fool.#

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628086#Comment_122628086

A million people dying from a virus he said would fade away to nothing as he tried to justify not acting sufficiently to control it.

Or did you forget?

Snake Plisken

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122627963#Comment_122627963

Some people have a great imagination don't you know Red😉

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122627878#Comment_122627878

There are a lot of people behind Trump who know what they're doing. We may not agree with their ends; their vision for the world, but they're still in the smart people. The trouble for them is that fate has placed in their hands a tool for enacting that vision that is powerful yet horribly capricious.

No matter their public proclamations about being behind their man, they must have serious angst in private.

Scaramucci and Roger Stone have spoken about the same thing - giving Trump advice is a dark art. You cannot advise him directly. Stone's method of giving Trump things to say was to mention them as things Trump had already said and which were so good that they should be repeated. Mooch's method was to make sure that any advice given was done completely in private because Trump is so insecure that he considers it a loss of face to be advised in front of others and will then bully the advisor in order to even the score. He's mental.

To your point, it also illustrates why he is a bad leader. Once the pressure comes on, he goes to pieces. He cannot put ego aside. He lashes out at his own people, even. No hope of dealing with large crises in a sober bipartisan way. He was able to prevent this happening even as a candidate by using his influence to kill the border bill, never mind as president.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628086#Comment_122628086

Trump has already shrugged off the pet eating migrant criticisms with the aid of some hilarious remixes in the last week. He really is Teflon Don.

You find the remixes to be, shrugging off, the criticism? lol

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628110#Comment_122628110

Ugh, back to covid yet again... he repeatedly said it was going to go away. Something everyone knew was the case and it did. These statements didn't cause deaths, that's ridiculous. It was Trump who championed your precious vaccine program, not Biden

Do you think he should have taken Ireland's approach and pulled the rug from under the economy? Everybody (except you of course) looks back at Ireland's covid measures and cringes, it was embarrassing. Elderly people dying alone in their houses and hospitals. Shameful. Young people spending the prime of their lives on zoom calls.

The dogs in the street knew, the prolonged Irish covid solution would never have worked in the US.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628132#Comment_122628132

Absolutely.

Harris can have as many celebrities she wants endorse her. As we learned from 2016 and covid - most normal people of voting age are repulsed by celeb pop culture.

Many people said "the trump/biden debate fiasco happened too early for trump. The assassination attempt happened too early for trump"

Same thing extends to Harris. That debate you covet so dearly has already lost steam for Harris.

What has she left in the tank? I can assure you, trump has a lot more.

King Mob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628136#Comment_122628136

It is very weird how pretty much all anti vaxxers are Trump supporters.

And how folks like RFKjr and Loomer have latched onto Trump while also clinging to the idea the vaccine he pushed has caused millions of deaths and is part of a giant global conspiracy.

Greengrass53

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628136#Comment_122628136

Yeah we would been far better following Trump and Johnson 's lead. What a crock of ****. Maybe drink some bleach and let bodies pile high.

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628145#Comment_122628145

You're right. Sweden and their trumpian approach to covid have conveyor belts in the streets and still can't shift the bodies quick enough.

Keep that vaccine passport up to date greengrass and be sure to isolate even when asymptomatic. Leo and Michael will be down to you with their star sticker soon, you'll just need to slide your forehead out to them through the post flap.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628140#Comment_122628140

Any proof that most people are “repulsed” by celeb pop culture?

Lost steam? She is winning in the polls now, and extending. Seems like she has a lot left in the tank, Trump is running scared already and avoiding another debate. You sure he has a lot more? He was baited so much at the debate and was shown up.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628140#Comment_122628140

Isn’t her lead after increasing?

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628220#Comment_122628220

You just broke hulk hogans heart.

Flaneur OBrien

The polls are turning for Harris. I think we might be seeing the effects of the debate now.

Thank God!

duploelabs

Trump company warned over pump and dump scheme, more evidence of being an expert businessman

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/17/djt-trump-media-stock-lawsuit-lockup.html

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628249#Comment_122628249

It's ok. He's promised not to sell anytime soon, so all those people with their college funds tied up in it, can relax.

everlast75

More grifting from Jim Jones Mark II

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1836089787633258536

Good to see he's continuing to reduce the rhetoric...

everlast75

Trump was asked what he would do to bring down the price of groceries. This is his answer.

“So we have to start always with energy. Always. I don't want to be boring about it but there's no bigger subject. It covers everything. If you make donuts, if you make cars, whatever you make, energy's a big deal. And we're gonna get that — it's my ambition to get your energy bill within 12 months down 50%. If I can do that we've done a hell of a job. 5-0. Not 15, 50. Interest rates are going to follow. And actually they're going to follow for another reason. The economy is now not good. And interest rates — you'll see, they'll do the rate cut and all the political stuff tomorrow. Will he do half a point, will he do a quarter of a point. But the reason is because the economy's not good. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to do it. But we're gonna get interest rates down. And we gotta work with our farmers. Our farmers are being decimated right now. They're being absolutely, absolutely decimated. And one of the reasons is we allow a lot of farm product into our country. We're gonna have to be a little bit like other countries. We're not gonna allow so much come — we're gonna let our farmers go to work. And I don't know if you remember. I love the farmers. Because I had many meetings as president. I had this gorgeous room with this beautiful table that seats about 35 people. And I was with the farmers. Usually everybody wants something. They all want subsidy. But I was with the farmers. And I think you might've been there actually Sarah. I said look, we're gonna get you such a beautiful subsidy, meaning I'm gonna do things. And one of the people raised his hand, 'Sir, honestly, we don't want a subsidy. That's the first time that's ever happened to me! Everyone wants — they want money, they want to build windmills, we want money for these windmills, ay-yai-yai. Anyway. But you know what? It was amazing. He said, almost tears in his eyes, they were getting decimated. 'We don't want a subsidy. We just want a fair level playing field! And I said nobody's ever said that. And I have many industries, they do all different things. It's probably the most dramatic l've ever seen. He didn't want anything. All he wanted was to be able to compete fairly. And the problem we have is other countries, they treat us very badly in that way, also. They really are. And sometimes the worst countries are our so-called allies. I say so-called because in many ways they're not allies at all. They take advantage of us. They really take advantage. But we're gonna do with the farmers, we're gonna do what we have to do with the farmers, we're gonna put our farmers - and do you remember the expression? When I was negotiating with China, China said well we're not gonna deal with this. Because they never had anybody to negotiate. They did whatever they want. They just took us, like, for a bunch of suckers. But I told the farmers it's gonna be very good negotiators, you're gonna suffer for six months and then they're gonna fold. And that's exactly what happened... So interest rates, energy and common sense.”

He is senile.

This is elder abuse.

He will be 82 by the end of the term and won't be able to fulfil his duties until then.

He should step down.

hometruths

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122627861#Comment_122627861

Wow. That's quite something.

Next thing we know Enda Kenny will be telling us he met these Northern European children chanting "They're eating the cats" whilst carrying two pints.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628294#Comment_122628294

It wouldn't exactly surprise me, I've heard plenty of jokes in relation to it from people who have no interest in politics.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628128#Comment_122628128

In terms of giving Trump advice, William Barr - Attorney General- mentioned that you always had to bring it back to Trump in some way and show how maybe whatever mad or bad thing he was intending to do or say, would not be in HIS best interests.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628368#Comment_122628368

Trumps forst, last and only thought is how something effects him.

Does it make him look good?

Does it make him feel good?

Does it make him money?

Does it damage one of his enemies (and thereby make him feel good)?

The idea that he does anything with someone other than himself in mind is laughable.

Oscar_Madison

Unless Harris does a major wrong step, which I think she’s very unlikely to do, I don’t see Trump winning. There’s always a potential for some “story” breaking in October around Harris designed to negatively impact her- but considering she was Attorney General much more so than a senator for most of her career to date she’s less likely to have many skeletons in the closet, and you’d imagine they would have been found in 2020.
Of course lies rumour and innuendo are always a possible tactic come October but these will have less impact.

However “good” Trump was in 2020 in gathering votes and persuading voters , he’s a shadow of his former self today- and of course he lost 2020. Also he’s not the current president which he was in 2020 so he’s even more at a disadvantage

I don’t see a “compelling” reason for voters for Trump to win - I would have seen one if Biden were still running - that challenge was removed .

The border, immigration economy etc- yes they are all still there and problematic as election issues but they always will be- but there’s no terrible emergency right now - we don’t have 500,000 people marching to the American border from South America - we don’t have a tanked economy (albeit it could be better) - there’s no active war that America is heavily involved in but of course there’s plenty of strife throughout the world that impacts America.

Democrats are united behind Harris-Democrat voter ship on the rise - talk of Trump losing in some states that he had previously got in the bag - i just don’t see how Harris can lose

Redliketoast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122628426#Comment_122628426

You dont see Trump winning because you and a lot in here tend to focus on one side of the media. You do not see the full picture so it catches you by surprise to know that Kamala is really poor at answering questions. To know that Biden was past it long before his debate mis-step. These are things that you all seemed shocked about. But nobody who sees the other side of the news reports was shocked.

Kamala got a marginal boost after a debate where she had the questions ffs. A debate where ABC have been called out as biased. Why anyone would think that Trump would agree to more cheating is insane. Its no coincidence who Donna Brazile now works for. Im sure you lot dont even know who she is though.