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Costs of private dental care in Ireland? Obscene?

  • 20-09-2024 9:57pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭


    Just comparing it with prices in The Netherlands, as an example (Turkey being apparently cheaper again).

    I think they have standardized costs?

    Wat Kost de Tandarts? | Tarieven en Vergoedingen (tandartsjanvangalen.nl)

    Root canal on a molar:

    Wortelkanaalbehandeling per element met 4 of meer kanalen

    € 295,68

    Compare that to Ireland, with an endodonist you'd be looking at 1200.

    For a crown:

    Kroon op implantaat

    € 281,60

    In Ireland?

    More like 1000?

    Is this "Rip Off Ireland" spilling into the health care system?

    The majority of insurance policies don't even meaningfully cover dental.

    If you require a moderate amount of dental work (root canal and crown, or extraction and implant), one would be looking at what, 5 large?

    And that's for just one tooth.

    More extensive work, be prepared to take out a second mortgage.

    Can't something be done on this matter?

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Extortionate here, tbh.

    Dental care is health care. Why has this country negelected basic health care for so many?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    My dentist charges less per hour than my mechanic. If we are saying my dental health should be subsidised by the govt I agree and I get why my mechanic isn't but on a skills and insurance paid per hour basis I don't find the dentist exhorborant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭satguy


    The dentist here in town thinks he is a brain surgeon ,, and thinks he should paid like one.

    But they are really like ink printers ,, they hang around all year,, and when you really need one to do a bit of work,, they let you down,, big time..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Any reason why the government can't step in and regulate pricing?

    I mean it's obviously required.

    …….

    We'd probably have mass departure of dental graduates then, lol.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Very high suicide rate in dentistry. Can't blame 'em.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_




  • Registered Users Posts: 841 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Taking? It's a specialised profession which most don't want to go for even if they have the points. Hence, the high prices.

    Nobody likes going to the dentist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    Not sure I fully understand the point. Is this true ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Had a filling in an unnamed country renowned for its dental schools and expertise.Cost me e18.22 at exchange rate in April this year.Haf to wait 24 hours for an appointment.Same at home would be e100+



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    I'm not sure the prices are all that different. I know I paid 870 for mine in the Netherlands. And it looks like it's gone up since.

    The price above is per element. Not for the whole treatment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭Mav11




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭beachhead


    Because most of the people on boards don't want to know.Naming it would open up the rant or rants to come



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Which tooth?

    Did you have it done with a dentist or endodontist?

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,492 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Because government doesn't regulate pricing for anything.

    The real question is why basic dentistry services aren't available to all as part of a public health service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭whatever.


    €1,500 I was quoted last summer before the price of the crown

    And that was from a "Dentist" who was too cheap to maintain his own office and instead worked like a travelling salesman from rented rooms

    FarFarcical, extortionate and ridiculous



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    I'm hearing/reading prices may be more affordable in the 6 counties?

    Has the "rip off Ireland" ethos contaminates the cross border region as of yet?

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    The cost of most things in this country is obscene. When I can go online and renew my house insurance/car insurance/cat insurance with ANY insurance provider in the EU from Finland to Greece etc. etc. then we may get somewhere. As long as this little island is treated as a wee bubble that happens to be a member state of the EU we're not going to have any progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,766 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    No need to regulate prices.

    Simply allow more people to train to be dentists.

    The high points is a sign of massive latent demand from people who want to train to be a dentist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,766 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Firms across the EU are free to offer insurance here, and they do.

    I believe AXA is French?

    And Allianz is German?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    Yes, you're right. However, as I said above, the market in this country is treated like a small little bubble, in which, it's residents are fleeced. It needs to be one big EU bubble. Can't see it happening anytime soon though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭gipi


    About to start dental treatment up north - probably a root canal. Price list includes £90 for initial assessment, £200 for investigation to see exactly what can be done and £600 for a molar root canal. Slightly cheaper, but not cheap.

    Didn't get to the price of a crown yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Photobox


    If you think Dental treatment is expensive here, you should see periodontics, im at the severe end of gum issues and its so costly to keep on top of it. It's heridary and I have no choice but to fork out..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Subsided under the NHS.

    I got a wisdom tooth out in Newry. 90 quid versus 300 in the Republic. That was 10 years ago, no doubt it's doubled in price here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Subsidization?

    I would have no beef if the Irish government did something similar.

    Prices in the north have gone north significantly however over the last 10 years.

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭whatever.


    Yes it is cheaper in the UK and considerably so, you will benefit from the NHS partially covering practice costs and the dentists supplementing their income via private patients ie you

    A crown is around £500



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭whatever.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Crowns do seem much cheaper for sure.

    Cost of implants has increased over the last 10 years however. Maybe some clinics are cheaper, but formerly they used to be about half the price of the south.

    Some NI clinics do keep their costs as they were, or aim to.

    Others……

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    The reality is teeth are super important.

    Hate to say it but there's no shortage of dentists out there that are straight up scammers, recommending and doing unnecessary work etc.

    This kind of pricing is prohibitive, it's aimed at draining bank accounts, not ensuring patients have optimal dental well being.

    So yes, the children's-hospital situation isn't exactly a resounding statement that the Irish government are adept at managing finances re health care.

    But government aside, insurance companies couldn't step in, a dental council could discuss measures to regulate fees;

    Something, no?

    Post edited by Sugar_Rush on

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭beachhead




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Ya'll can get dental appointments? Public or private, i can't. Not that I could afford it anyway. And I'm pretty sure the last lad fucked up my mouth. Went in with no pain and all of a sudden I have receding gums and that's why I can no longer eat with the right side of my mouth since my last visit...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Sugar_Rush


    Unnecessary dental work being recommended also; forced-upon, in some cases.

    Another scourge of the dental industry.

    Annual check ups should not be optional, but compulsory.

    If the government was subsidizing dental work, they'd be a step closer to that to reduce future costs…… kind of like health promo's to reduce the burden on the health system.

    And no one wants to talk about it but, accountability for dentists that do subpar work.

    The suing is very poor when it comes to low quality dental work (i.e. dental malpractice).

    In physics we trust....... (as insanely difficult to decipher as it may be)



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