Glastonbury 2025

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122897237#Comment_122897237

I didn't even get as far as West Holts but yeah, that was the funniest. Plus I heard it from a good source that the 1975 are playing 4 times because of the failure that was Coldplay last year and to combat how woke Glasto has become

I'm sure SOME of those acts will play because there are so many there and some are repeat offenders but yeah. Lol

Himselfe

Wow I see the Sherlock Holmes/Internet Sleuth/Captain Obvious brigade is out in force. How did you all figure out it was fake??? Amazing.

Get over yizzer selves FFS. It's just a bit of a conversation starter. It's quite clearly not the real deal. And many of the acts are 'plausible'. Plenty on here make statements about this and that they've heard don't come to fruition. It's all part of the fun! (Well I thought is was supposed to be fun, but it turns out you're all just a bunch of whiney aulfellas).

TheIrishGrover

Or MAYBE we were, y'know, having a conversation about it. Maybe voicing our opinions for those who had not been before and were maybe wondering what to expect.

I do apologise if we hurt your feelings. Us whiney auldfellas can be a bit insensitive at times it seems.

Wooderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122899889#Comment_122899889

Timewasting = ace!

😕

crl84

Chic playing on Sunday after Rod:

https://metro.co.uk/2024/11/29/70s-music-icon-accidentally-confirms-playing-glastonbury-2025-22089134/

Wooderson

Letting those of us without tickets down easy.

sprucemoose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122898164#Comment_122898164

The 1975 are pretty woke though, despite what swifties might say

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122901799#Comment_122901799

What’s ‘woke’ as I’ve found that anyone using the word doesn’t understand its meaning?

MadYaker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122886790#Comment_122886790

I was there for Nightmares on Wax, loved the first few minutes but I fell asleep against the wooden wall at the back

sprucemoose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122901870#Comment_122901870

i actually definitely agree on that, i was (possibly incorrectly) presuming the original poster's use of the term was as a way of saying progressive/liberal as has become colloquial

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122901945#Comment_122901945

Nah, it's just that there is the usual 1975 troll bemoaning the fact that Glasto is all "Woke" lately..…lately. Lol. (whatever that means. IMHO, woke is the past tense of wake). Just a poor attempt at humour

MadYaker

My phone keeps digging up old photos, not sure what year this is

Wooderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122954346#Comment_122954346

Does your phone not tell you the year

Seathrun66

So, what are the relatively reliable rumours?

Rod confirmed with a high possibility of the surviving Faces (Jones & Wood) joining him. Chic also.

Olivia Rodrigo certain, heavy rumours of Neil Young and The 1975 (I'd take one good headliner, two highly unlikely).

Goat, CMAT, Libertines, Father John Misty probably there. Alanis Morisette, Gang of Four, Bunnymen, Sting, The Last Dinner Party all in the locality. After that it's guesswork but so far looking like it could shape up to be an improvement on the last couple.

MadYaker

No idea but I hope they book Squarepusher again, he was great in the glade in 2019 I think it was?

bnt

Neil Young has pulled out of the festival, calling it at "corporate turn-off". He implies that the BBC wanted him to do things that he didn't want to do.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123007386#Comment_123007386

All about tv rights/performance usage and setlist. BBC is heavy handed about MainStage tv rights and knowing setlist in advance.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123007612#Comment_123007612

It's a cop-out by him as there's no difference whatsoever from 2009. It's also not heavy-handed to ask for the setlist so they can inform the viewers of what's being played. He also has the option of refusing to be filmed as Leonard Cohen did in 2008, The Libertines in 2022 and several others. 'Tis just contrary horsesh1t from Shakey, nothing new.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123007820#Comment_123007820

Nah bbc have being very demanding in recent years requiring artists to allow either substantial or nearly all the Glastonbury headline set being broadcasted.
the libertines were on at lunchtime on the Friday on the other stage, a different situation than Neil young headlining the pyramid stage one of the nights.

If broadcast rights is the respective red lines for Neil young and Glasto/BBC then I can understand why it’s happened. Both have valid reasons for current status quo

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123007860#Comment_123007860

Source please on any change from 2009. Accredited media only.

That 11.00/11.30 slot on the Friday on the Other Stage opens the festival. There are no acts on competing main stages when it starts so there are usually 70k people there as there were for the Libertines who didn't want to be filmed so weren't.

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123007887#Comment_123007887

The first few acts on the Other Stage are never filmed/broadcast.

The Libertines haven't negotiated anything, the BBC just don't start filming on that stage until lunchtime, and so the first and second and sometimes third act on the schedule don't get broadcast. Eg. In 2023 Ben Howard and The Hives didn't have their sets broadcast.

I would agree that it's Neil Young being a contrary bollocks though.

Acts can decide not to have their sets broadcast, MIA and Massive Attack have done so in recent years.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008055#Comment_123008055

Exactly .As have David Bowie and many others.

He could've negotiated but not in his DNA .

Neil just likes to kick up his heels and be cross every so often .

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008089#Comment_123008089

Which is really sad as he's turning 80 next year and this could have been a phenomenal set. Stevie Wonder and Eminem both feature in rumours and would be great but I'd personally prefer Shakey and he's just having a hissy-fit. The top line of artists is likely to look a lot shabbier now as Olivia Rodrigo will be one of the headliners and possibly Sam Fender/The 1975. Neil could have added a lot more dignity to that incoming poster.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008095#Comment_123008095

Sam Fender 👀eh headlining ?

Yeah love the man but he's a cranky oul git .I suppose like a lot of us when getting on a bit and he just happens to be having his histrionics in public ;)

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008102#Comment_123008102

Fender - hopefully not, but…….

And Neil calling Glasto ‘corporate’ is embarrassing himself by displaying gross ignorance of the festival.

Wooderson

That's a shame. His '09 set was marvliss. Not sure how much of it was broadcast... 4 or 5 tunes?

Interesting take from Neil that it's become a lot more corporatised since then. Wouldn't surprise me to hear that they are beholden to BBC contracts more these days. Pity. He would have been a devisive, shambolic triumph.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008110#Comment_123008110

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123007887#Comment_123007887

glasto has become more corporate in last 20 years, far more onsite sponsorship and proliferation of boutique/expensive accommodation to corporate entertainment packages.
BBC involvement is a more corporate aspect. It’s the centrepiece of bbc music coverage in the summer and they have demanded more and more exhaustive terms from artists, friends have been subject to these terms. A lot feel pressured into agreeing to them.
BBC coverage is a catch 22 situation, it’s a massive selling point for bands to play for next to nothing as bbc coverage can have dramatic effect to an artists profile in the uk on the other hand a legend like Neil young or others as mentioned like m.I.a etc May have own thoughts on bbc demanding broadcasting rights for their sets.

The Nal

Very interesting. Neil being Neil.

Glasto/BBC were always going to get told to **** off asking/telling Neil that the entire set has to be broadcast, asking for setlists etc.

Delighted hes still fighting the good fight.

Everlong1

Why would an act NOT want their set to be broadcast?

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008433#Comment_123008433

• cause maybe they want to film their own headline show on that tour to release as a live album/streaming release.
• cause they don’t want to hand over control to the bbc for how their live show is recorded/broadcasted/sound mixed?
• Cause they aren’t a fan of tv broadcasts of their sets, they want people to experience it firsthand at their concerts
  An artist like Neil young has earned right to decide how his music is released/broadcast. If he only wanted them to broadcast a handful of songs and bbc wanted full headline set then what can either do.

joinme

It's a pity for those with tickets to miss out on the opportunity to see Neil Young on the Pyramid stage. His headline show in 2009 remains one of the best concerts I've ever witnessed.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008556#Comment_123008556

He only agreed at the last minute to allow 20 minutes of his 2009 set to be broadcast.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008280#Comment_123008280

Name the corporate sponsors of Glastonbury.

crl84

Not exactly crazy demands:

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008293#Comment_123008293

It's a big hissy-fit though and there'll be another reason. Possibly offered a bigger fee elsewhere that weekend? The BBC would never have said that the entire set had to be broadcast. The start of Macca's wasn't in 2022, half of the Stones missing in 2013 and Massive Attack (2014) plus Leonard Cohen in 2008 refused to be filmed at all.

This is a not-for-profit festival with no corporate sponsorship. The monies go to Oxfam, Greenpeace, Water Aid and local charities. Glastonbury turned down enormous ooffers from Sky and Channel 4 for broadcast rights so it could be aired for free with no advertising. Neil ain't fighting the good fight. He's being an idiot.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008689#Comment_123008689

Absolutely, and they're not selling on that material via DVD sales or pay-per-view streaming services. No profiteering. Neil probably got a bigger offer from another European festival or he's doing Hyde Park or more lucrative standalone shows.

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008683#Comment_123008683

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008706#Comment_123008706

There's absolutely corporate sponsorship.
The Guardian, Carslberg/Tuborg at main bars, Brothers cider all over the place, Vodafone off the top of my head…

https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/news/download-our-2024-app-keep-your-phone-charged/

They might not have naming rights on the festival/stages, but it's still there.

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008689#Comment_123008689

Disagree.

The Beeb asking/telling Neil Young that they'll show his set wherever they like and chop up whatever bits of it they want for little pro BBC highlight packages and ultimately, advertising?

Thats never going to work. Amazed he allowed it last time.

Even if they agreed not to do any of that, asking him is enough reason for a PFO.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008732#Comment_123008732

The Guardian and BBC are media partners. They don't sponsor the festival nor advertise there, only broadcast and provide coverage.

Vodafone are there but don't have advertising rights. They're present to ensure that 220k people have phone coverage and you can recharge for free.

Brooklyn Pilsner (Carlsberg has European brand rights) are the main beer but there's no advertising. Festivals sell branded drinks shocker. It can't have escaped your attention that the bars have a simple sign ouut side simply saying BAR.

Once again can you name a corporate sponsor?

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008683#Comment_123008683

Vodafone, Land Rover and Hunter are three of the brands I remember from last year off the top of my head. All are official partners of Glastonbury.

TheIrishGrover

Yeah. Grouchy old man not happy that he can't make more money from rights etc. It's the same as it was then. Nobody's flogging off DVDs/streaming rights (yet). I'm sure it's a regular issue with attempting to book some bigger acts.

I'm sure there will be the usual rants from the usual haters. Ignorant of the facts. "Glastonbury's pivot to 'Woke' putting the final nail in the coffin". Blah blah blah. But famously Springsteen was hesitant to play and the likes of Fleetwood Mac looking for unrealistic demands have stopped them playing. Glasto is a big draw for the BBC and a highlight for people who cannot go. People get p*ssed when you have some acts like Young and The Stones limiting what can be broadcast.

As a fan, I say fair play to the Eaves' for sticking to their guns. They are after making some concessions (Allowing for some acts to sell their T-shirts). Especially for "legacy" acts, Glastonbury is a great opportunity to revitalise a career. With Robbie Williams being everywhere at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns up.

Yes, there is a certain amount of working with corporations but, apart from The Guardian, I wouldn't consider any of it being "Sponsorship". Yes, there are names beers and ciders but it's not like there is a "Tuborg Stage". There are no banners on the stages advertising anything other than charities.

It's not a "Not-for-profit" festival but it's not Cochella (Thankfully)

There are more than enough festivals for you, Neil. Slàn

The Nal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008779#Comment_123008779

Well the BBC. Vodafone are very much a sponsor. They had Orange and Budweiser at one point. I remember some shoddy "everyone smile for a picture for Orange" on the Pyramid one year.

Edit: This one

https://www.theguardian.com/media/pda/2010/jul/05/glastonbury-orange-photo

And the last couple of years theyve had this

But I doubt thats the reason for Neil pulling out.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008556#Comment_123008556

And that is all totally understandable. But it's not like Glasto's requirements would be a surprise. EVERYONE knows many of the main acts are broadcast on BBC. EVERYONE knows they don't release/sell concert albums. Especially as he's already played. This would be the same as his last performance. This comes across as an attention grab.

Fanirish

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008779#Comment_123008779

This is a corporate sponsorship/partnership. It’s literally the same kinda stuff that 3 mobile etc get for 3 arena.
And media outlets broadcasting like the bbc are corporate partners same as Amazon prime or YouTube doing live streams for Coachella or other big festivals.

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008779#Comment_123008779

I just did. Your mental gymnastics to try pretend that they're not sponsors is irrelevant to me.

"they're there but they don't have advertising rights" - LOL ok pal.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008814#Comment_123008814

Vodafone provide coverage for 220k festival-goers and staff. No advertising or sponsorship rights.

Land Rover provide vehicles for ferrying staff and artists about. No advertising or sponsorship rights.

Hunter have never had any deal with Glastonbury. You’ve made it up. It may have escaped your attention that Hunter went into administration in 2023 with losses of £112m.

Again I ask you to name the sponsors. There are none. No advertising. No branding. Not-for-profit with monies go lobbying groups and charities. You’ve never been. That’s clear or you’d have been away of the absence of corporations there.

Still Ill

Vodafone sponsor Glastonbury. Their branding was front and centre on the Glasto app this year. Can't miss it

TheIrishGrover

There's a difference between partnership and sponsorship

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008816#Comment_123008816

Absolutely. It’s astonishing how the critics label it as both ‘woke’ and ‘corporate’ without understanding either.

And it remains not-for-profit. The monies go to national and local charities. Any cash the festival banks is for site investment for the following few years. They’ve turned down every brewery going, soft drinks companies, communications giants, Sky TV for coverage, etc. They ain’t there for a cash grab.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123008839#Comment_123008839

Vodafone replaced Three who replaced Orange. None have advertising rights but provide coverage for 220k people plus broadcast aid and recharging sites. You cannot do a festival without them. Same with the BBC when broadcasting. You surely understand what sponsorship is. They ain’t sponsors.

Same with beer. Sold on site but no advertising. Bars just marked as BAR, no names outside. Budweiser NEVER allowed to advertise, if they did ever sell there. Tuborg not there. It’s Brooklyn Pilsner. That displays how non-existent the branding is.
See also Mars bars and Walkers crisps that you can probably buy on site.

Land Rover provide vehicles for staff and artists. They cannot advertise.

None of these brands can put their names on stages, advertise on site or on other media. They’d love to link it on TV but they can’t.

Again please point to a corporate sponsor.