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Election to be called Fri - predict outcome

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,545 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I don't think it makes you a loon, it is normal practice at the door to say, your party said A, I don't agree with A, will you stand by your party's policies on this if it comes up.

    It would be weirder to assume that a party who are known for there single founding policy, would not vote for it if in power. A different thing at local level such as a councillor, our local one doesn't really give a sh1te but simply won't engage with it and despite not voting for him, he appears to be a good councillor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭TokTik


    TFI links better than ever?? The Northern Commuter line timetable has been changed 4 times in the last month because it’s such a mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,405 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Ah yes anecdotes anecdotes and more anecdotes.

    Sure the building sites near me are busy, we must be on 40k per annum now

    All analysts pointed out at the time that surge in commencements was solely due to waivers for levies that had a deadline - get your commencements in or pass full fees

    No surprise what developers go for - but does this mean they are now outputting far more units? Does it feck!

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and end of year and next year completions will show that activity hasn't ramped up anything close to what is being spun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭BailMeOut


    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/09/19/the-irish-times-ipsos-ba-poll-september-2024-full-results-in-charts/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Dont Be at It


    Read what I said again and quote it all. And check the post I was replying to. Then turn down your thermostat one degree.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Aontu have pivoted to having immigration as one of their core policies since they've copped that there's no party filling the right wing position on that topic. It'll win them a significant number of votes this time around I'd say but at least for the medium term, pro-life will be the central plank in their policy document



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,431 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Lol, ok, glad to see the back of that lying troll anyway, Harris glows in comparison.

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Sub, no use to me unfortunately, maybe someone else with sub can verify the original claim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Indeed, like giving that slapper of a girlfriend a second, third and fourth chance if you'll excuse the crass analogy 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Yeah, that decade and a half of negative equity together with the worst recession the country has ever seen was a joy to experience.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭BailMeOut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Joe286


    Immigration is the fly in the ointment for the government. It should be wary of a surge in support for anti immigrant parties.

    Remember SF didn't have a great local in 2019 and then..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,243 ✭✭✭Patser


    I don't think immigration is that big an issue at the moment, it really hasn't been in any sort of headlines or even mentioned much on social media since early summer - Coincidentally in run up to local elections.

    And I think the reason is rather prosaic - not that many migrants are coming at the moment, because they are not stupid and talk online about reality on the ground, and well reality on the ground in Ireland is if you arrive here now, you'll be put into direct provision in a tent in Brittas, or a hostel like room in an old hotel in the middle of nowhere, you'll be fed so you can't complain but won't be able to work or make the 'fortune' you thought you'd make. Meanwhile Ireland has just had a crap summer even by our standards, so you'll feel perpetually cold and damp if you've come from somewhere warm. Also the Rwanda threat in the UK is gone.

    You can see it in Dublin, migrants just aren't arriving in same numbers at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,468 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    the major slump in prices was only truly a problem if people were planning on flipping property, or were using it as their entry point into the market, in order to move onto other property after the fact, but if people werent planning on moving on, it wasnt truly a problem. again, this is what the approach of financialising the whole process of property has created, as property is deemed an asset under this approach, ffg have firmly accepted this approach to being the best, theyre wrong, but they are set to continue with it, i.e. property values will continue to rise, even if supply increases…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭Genghis


    It seems to be the consensus here that because Aontu were established as anti 8th amendment, that they are forever a single issue party.

    In the real world, Aontu would hold maybe 4 seats and form part of a 90 seat coalition. They could say 'We know we won't succeed in seeking a referendum to outlaw abortion, we ask that during this government there be no change to status quo (no further liberalisation). They could then seek something related to their other policies, justice reform maybe, greater financial accountability, more robust migration control, etc, together with a couple of.

    I personally think both FF and FG could agree a programme for government with Aontu.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    The NCCA / SPHE education / "Family A vs. Family B"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Bear in mind that houses being built does not mean houses being sold to the general public.

    Many new schemes/estates are sold directly to the LA or a AHB.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I am no big fan of the Green Party, but not because of taxes.

    Other than the carbon tax, which of course they wanted to increase (I agree), what other tax have they introduced / increased?

    Maybe I am missing something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,338 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    They could; but they won't. There is zero chance they will give up on their single issue to enter a coalition; or else the party would basically cease to be - it only exists for that single issue of not accepting the status quo. Everything else is window dressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    That seems reasonable to me.

    Going by adverts on social media, they are mentioning their plans for immigration rules a lot.

    No mention of abortion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭Joe286


    The government already takes about 60% of what you pay for petrol and you want to pay more???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I think that's a distraction technique to woo the crowds.

    They have a reason for exisiting and most of us, especially those of us under 40, just aren"t interested in buying what they have to sell.

    Not sure its great optics for FFG to have them as the third wheel, either. The Greens were progressive, but will be mostly wiped out this time around.

    I think the Soc Dems or Labour have a better chance of making up the third leg and neither party would be percieved as regressive, internationally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I support carbon taxes, yes.

    Whether I support them rising to 100 euro per tonne, I am open to debate on that.

    The legislation plans the tax to rise to 100 euro per tonne.

    I support VAT being cut from 23% to 20%.

    I want the marginal income tax on median earnings to be cut sharply, from 48.6% to maybe 35%.

    So, yes, I am happy for carbon and property taxes to rise, as long as marginal income rates on median and mean earnings falls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,987 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    They're the organisations housing people on social housing lists. Do we not hear about the homeless everyday? How else are we supposed to solve the crisis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Please God not SD another lunatic far left party who want to implement anti free speech laws.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    You are going to have to explain abit more than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,195 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Is tomorrow the deadline for to call an election in mid November? Also even if there was an election pre Christmas isn't it likely a government won't be formed until the new year?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    I mean you don't have free speech regardless. Another? Won't they be just joining the right leaning parties that do?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    They are the strongest supporters of this so called hate speech law. Anyone who supports it won't get a vote from me



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,675 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    What's that got to do with O'Gorman?

    Bear in mind that school books are written and published by private companies, the Dept of Education (which also has nothing to do with O'Gorman) does not censor or approve them and it's up to each school (and sometimes each teacher) to decide which books will be used in a class

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,675 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Gript were getting you needlessly agitated about things that were never going to happen.

    But that's their M.O.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,338 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No, and it was never going to be called tomorrow

    18-25 days between writ and election date; the rumoured dates could not even be called tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,473 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    They're getting my number 1 vote again, and I'll be giving them number 1 every election until we're carbon neutral

    I'm guessing FF/FG will end up in coalition again. Turns out mediocrity and preserving the status quo is better than the alternatives for most people

    As for the others, I reckon SF is going to implode. The party has always been this bizarre alliance of the left and right people who hate FF/FG

    Now between immigration and Gaza those two wings hate each other and the party leadership can't hold it together

    I reckon the left wing of the party will swing to a combination of Labour, Social Democrats and PBP depending on how moderate they are. This in turn might be enough to give the first two a shot at being the junior partner in a coalition

    PBP are never, ever going to get into government and will do everything they can to resist going into government because they know they'll be getting the blame for screwing everything up

    Unfortunately I think the right wing of SF supporters (i.e. the group who post on boards.ie) might be enough to carry one of the psychotic far right parties into the Dail

    Again, they'll never get into government but we'll all be subjected to listening to whatever spiteful crap they're spewing into the chamber

    Hopefully there's a referendum limiting Dail privilege at some point, it'd be nice to see some of the twats like Grealish facing legal action over their comments

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    18-25 days?

    Are campaigns not usually longer? I'm not sure.

    I have six weeks in my head.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,706 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    no not according to the electoral act of 1992.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,745 ✭✭✭jd


    Once the Dail is dissolved an election has to take place within 30 days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,338 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Not in Ireland they aren't. Been 18-25 days for over 30 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,195 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    So if rumours of the 22nd are to be believed, it has to be dissolved by the 23?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,338 ✭✭✭✭L1011




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,092 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Hard one to predict except the Greens will probably get a hiding at the Polling Stations. It will be interesting to see how the recent run of SF's controversies affect the electorate. Will it put off the new SF voter or will the hardcore SF voter rally around SF even more?

    I assume FF and FG will remain fairly similar and might even increase their number of seats if the timing of the election is right for them.

    Labour and the SD have been playing it cagey hedging their bets it will be interesting to see how this strategy plays with the electorate.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,745 ✭✭✭jd


    Difficult to call for the small parties, you need to look at each constituency and the individuals standing there.

    For example, looking at the 3 Fingal Constituencies (Dublin West, Fingal West, Fingal East), Labour could end up with zero seats…or on a very good day, 3..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    GP charge 26.50 in France, due to increase to 30 next year.

    I have asked lots of people, but nobody has provided any explanation as to how this is possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,338 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Everyone pays that, or its refunded to them by an insurance scheme.

    As a GP here if they'd be willing to take 30 per patient for every patient and they'd bite your arm off for it.

    For medical card and doctor visit card patients, GPs are paid as little as 64.28 a year, to cover all visits that patient makes. Patients with those cards attend about twice as often as those who pay per visit, as you are less likely to ignore something when it isn't costing you money - for long term health outcomes, you want people to go when they're sick.

    Medical card/DVC payments are unsustainably low and have been for decades; GPs make their money off higher than internationally comparable fees for people without them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,465 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Election either on 22-Nov or 29-Nov. There is very little chance a government will be formed until 2025. It will take months to agree a program for government.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭MFPM


    The election won't be called Friday, but it is imminent and will likely take place on November 22nd.

    Right now based on polls it will be FG/FF with either Labour and/or Soc Dems. Greens will be hit but will return some TDs just not enough to be worth including in gov.

    Immigration won't be the issue it was manufactured to be in the locals, the far right won't get a sniff IMO though some of the rural TDs may seek to exploit the issue for cheap gain.

    SF will not reach the heights that polling a year ago indicated they might though it was always a tad exaggerated. It's unlikely they'll be in a position now to form a government, and thus the end of the MLMD era is nigh too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭mehico


    FG potentially could poll much higher than FF leading to FF having to reconcile the possibility of entering a coalition as the junior party next time around as opposed to forming another "coalition of equals".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,402 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I would not see Pippa Hackett getting elected. She could not manage it last time out when there was a "green wave" . The boundary changes do not look in her favour either.

    Her husband, who she gifted her council seat too lost it in the local elections, and her son ran in the other constituency she was considering and got nowhere. Far as I recall both husband and son didn`t get enough vote to get their deposits back.

    I would not see anything other than FF/FG and a group of rural T.D.s. Both FF and FG have be taking hits from being in power with the Greens from their traditionally dependable rural vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    And as I said, there appears to be movement on the ground when it comes to more housing..



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