Dublin Half Marathon - little to no consideration given to local residents

strongback

A few street will be blocked, local residents will be let through the Garda barriers.

A match in Croke Park is not comparable to the Half Marthon fiasco

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123321253#Comment_123321253

It's a simple fact that not everyone would pass the signs. Why you think that's not true I've no idea. It's just obvious.

Same with the rest of it.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123321560#Comment_123321560

Is there a map of the road closures etc.

strongback

Community Event Day Information

Event Information for Local Residents

EPCR Investec Champions Cup Round of 16

Saturday 5th April

15:00 Leinster Rugby V Harlequins

Turnstiles will open at 13:30

Areas Open - All Lower Tier & Upper Cusack
Premium, Suite Level & Ard Chomhairle
Reserved Seating in all areas.
Hill 16 (B&C)

Pyrotechnics will be in operation

ROAD CLOSURES

THIS WILL BE UPDATED ON THURSDAY APRIL 3rd

When roads are closed resident access will be through Fitzroy Avenue and Ballybough Road - please use the entrance / exit point closest to your residence. 

beakerjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123321526#Comment_123321526

Gross incompetence? Hyperbolic nonsense.

beakerjoe

The complainers need to get over it. **** happened and you got burnt.

Get over yourself OP. Move on. Tons of people had a great experience sunday. What's done is done

Flinty997

So no to a better map then .…

Rocket_GD

Some road closures early on a Sunday morning, that were mainly open from 11am, because of a highly successful and widely publicised event has caused 11 pages of discussion.

Imagine if something bad actually ever happened.

Flinty997

I assume the intent of starting the thread was to initiate discussion. The Trump thread has 500+ pages. 11 pages is nothing.

FishOnABike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123320992#Comment_123320992

Google / Waze Partner Feed (and similar for Apple and Bing Maps) could be used to upload all the planned road closures and times (including junctions with no or reduced access to an otherwise open road). Do this and schedule sections to reopen or update manually in real time on the day and other road users can plan in advance and navigate themselves on day.

Produce map, similar to the race route map but for other road users showing times each section of the road closes and reopens, including access to/from all junctions on the route.

Plan the route e.g. separate the start and finish and use overpasses to ensure there are planned routes for other road users to get around, in, out, through the area withinthe race route and show these clearly on a map, with diversion signs and Google / Apple / Bing maps navigation using partner feed for advance and live data.

Provide the same information to TII, The AA, RAC and any other motoring organisations.

It should be a requirement as part of the traffic management plan for any road closures.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322133#Comment_123322133

The Trump presidency could have drastic and long lasting consequences throughout the world.

Some roads were closed early on a Sunday morning for 3 hours, hardly comparable.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322450#Comment_123322450

That is why this thread is only 11 pages and the other 500+. The Wordle thread is 1000+ pages. You make 11 pages sound like War and Peace. Statistically its barely a footnote.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322416#Comment_123322416

Exactly. They just needed a bit more on the maps and closures.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322462#Comment_123322462

Anyway, I won't be adding anymore to it. It was a 3 hour window, not the apocalypse.

Can't wait for next year's event already and the one's complaining that somehow they knew nothing about it, you do now. It'll be happening again next year, more than likely with a larger capacity.

Make sure to tell all the elite professional u12's managers.

FazyLucker

Is there anything to be said for saying another mass?

Flinty997

It doesn't really matter if the restriction is gone when you don't need to be there.

Even if you knew it was on, you couldn't easily plan a route around the restrictions in advance.

Not everyone was going to a kids match. Was it an elite race? Does that matter.

… next year do better …

MacronvFrugals

I live right in the middle of the path, knew it was happening and wasn’t inconvenienced in the slightest. The only issue I would say was the uptick in litter the following day.

TheRef

Its quite disheartening reading many of the posts in this thread which for some reasons are being brought into other threads.

Something I really like about this forum is it is one of the few places that recreational runners like me can come to learn from others, ask questions, trust the responses from posters who frequently contribute and hopefully become a little bit of a better runner than I was before.

This thread epitimizes the reason I stopped posting on boards - what started out as what seems a very valid criticism - a local resident unable to get their kids to a scheduled match with no one manning the route able to help them, almost immediately turns toxic with people suggesting it is their own fault for not knowing and they should have parked 2.5km away, or waiting till the roads reopened, or the match wasn't important, and that even asking kids to turn up an hour before a match (which is standard for most clubs) is laugable and somehow elite (?).

While accepting this is an inagural event and seemly hugely successful to those involved, not everything worked as it should, and next year the concerns of local residents should be addressed without making nasty comments. It doesn't make this forum a very welcome place.

Flinty997

Tbh I only posted in support of the OP who was getting a kicking.

Their post while OTT maybe. Had some valid points that I also experienced. While I made my event it's was luck and Google maps rather than the official information. Which just fell short for me. Others have posted suggested how maps and should could be improved.

But Yeah boards attack the poster not the post how it's changed.

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322541#Comment_123322541

As has been said numerous time, they will do better.

You dont need to keep flogging the same horse. People were inconvenienced. Next year the organizers will do more and advertise it more.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322678#Comment_123322678

I'm just replying to the false narratives for example it's was only a kids match and such.

Plenty of people have made rational reasonable suggestions, I'm interested in hearing them. If anyone isnt the door isn't locked.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322577#Comment_123322577

Same here. knew it was happening, cancelled the swimming for the kids, not a big deal.

I was genuinely shocked by the amount of litter. It's hard to believe that runners would deliberately throw rubbish into the sea, especially knowing how difficult it is for locals to retrieve it from a tidal lagoon in the Biosphere and Bull Island Nature Reserve. The clean-up situation was pretty bad around Raheny, Clontarf, and the Alfie Byrne Road too.

I organise events in Kerry, Mayo, and Dublin, and we always follow a strict leave no trace policy. It's just basic respect for the environment and the communities who live there.

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322845#Comment_123322845

Its disgraceful. I was doing the Drogheda 10k last year and some one threw a bottle of water in to the Boyne. I roared at her that how did she expect anyone to get that out of the water?

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322792#Comment_123322792

Fair enough. Its interesting you only reply to the false narratives on one side of the discussion though

FazyLucker

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322932#Comment_123322932

I said it before, this is where people need a "Disqualified for littering" deterrent. Can be plain clothes people after water stations and can say "Entrant 1234 - littering". See how quick the littering ends if people think every 2nd person could be a marshal ready to disqualify them.

People have no problem carrying selfie sticks and mobile phones by the sounds of it, the least they can do is carry their empty water bottle or energy gel or whatever to a bin.

This is a very valid gripe for me.

left_hander

Anybody who knows where the clean-up has been inadequate should really report it to DCC - you can report a litter offence on their website.

No pun intended, but these organisers need to clean up their act - you can't just have an event where people think you can throw energy gels in to the sea. They need sweeper machines and people with brushes, but as the posters above say anybody littering needs to be disqualified and this needs to be made as clear as water in the e-mails and communication with runners.

That the remnants of energy gels sit on the DCM route since October is frankly disgraceful, assuming it is true. Which I don't doubt for a second because it was the same when I lived in Kimmage.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322934#Comment_123322934

I didn't though. I also commented on positive suggestions. For example fishonabike and a few others. I've wholly agreed with a number of different posters.

A few mentioned why no complaints about other events. They have more useful information and maps in my experience. Having to navigate around events is usual enough.

event

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123322951#Comment_123322951

Its a societal problem really. Wont be long before we see the pictures of the beaches in Ireland destroyed by litter when people flock to them in the good weather

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123323818#Comment_123323818

We do already! However, it's unusual for a sports event to be that bad. There's parks with huge huge numbers of people playing sports from GAA to Rugby every weekend and they don't leave the place in the state the course was left in last weekend.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123323834#Comment_123323834

Not unusual in the slightest for a running even unfortunately, look at the stat of the Southside after the Dublin marathon, the coast road and the bay after the Clontarf one, the Phoenix Park after the 1/2 marathon there, litter is consistently an issue.