Does anyone hate rap music more than I

StarScream

i could go on for a couple of hours about how i hate rap music but id take up about 50 pages and noone would read the topic....so heres a competition to see does anyone hate rap/hip hop more than me?

Kali

By all means go on for a couple of hours but it will be pointless, I think your looking at the medias portrayal of hip-hop a la Missy G (or whatever), Puff Daddy and Snoop and all that ******, jesus even limp bizkit are considered a hip-hop outfit by some music "critics".

I'd encourage you to go find some proper hiphop, go download the following three songs, which basically got me into the whole rap end of it (rather than the DJ end of things which I already liked, say Psyence Fiction by Unkle, that end of things) it aint gangster **** or any self-praising crap but genuine music, if you still hate the genre as a whole after listening to them then so be it:

Blackalicious - Shallow Days
Blackalicious - Making Progress
Blackalicious - Sleep
or in fact the whole Nia album.

some Jurassic 5 wouldn't go amiss either but doesnt contain half the amount of soul as Blackalicious.

Dunno what you think of R'n'B (personally not a great fan) but Musiq Soulchild - Aijuswanaseing is one hella good album imo.

<insert concluding argument here>

StarScream

lol im willing to give anything a try but u gotta understand what im sayin,i will dl those songs though i was complaining about all those rappers who constantly say their own name,take off their shirts,do those ridiculous hand signals and so on.did u hear that "song" by that little 13 year old idiot i mean hes givin it loads i cant stand it,even if tose songs u told me to download are good the genre as a whole has been tainted by this S***

Kali

hehe bow wow wow or something
shut the **** up you little ******* *kicks bowwow*
and he goes running off back to mummy ..

Megatron

now now Starscream please ..
I can understand about the 13 year old git .
however give rap a chance ...

So says your Leader !!!

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Frodo@work

There is good hip hop out there,try
A Tribe Called Quest
DE la Soul
Dream Warriors
Public Enemy
NWA

any of the old stuff is usally good, it was poof daddy who came and recked it all.

Greenbean

Na its more than just poof daddy.

When I think back to the first time I heard rap it was no melody but very in your face. Lines went something along "yo, u-huh, I'm gonna show how I'm the greatest"... so I'm now interested, listening for how he will show me how hes the greatest .."yea, all the honeys want me all night"... still waiting for this amazing melody or break down or something that will wow me "sup, gonna wow you with all my skills" .. still waiting... and so on. Shallow pretentious stuff with no substance, all hype.

Took me ages to realise this is what people liked, the attitude, the rawness of it all. But I'm afraid I still don't throw it under music, its culture more than anything - its a tribal chant, when it starts sounding melodic its called r&b, and theres were black cultured music gets extremely good.

amp

It's a bit of a broad statement. Rap is a huge genre subdivided into a load of different styles and flava's (ahem). I think you mostly hate Gansta rap, but there are other type of rap.

I suggest you seek out the following tracks to open your mind:

Anthrax - I'm the man (1991 remix) - Heavy metal and rap together in (almost) perfect harmony.

Wycleff Jean (featuring The Rock)- It doesn't matter: Reggae flavoured rap

Tricky - Black Steel: Industrial style, very dark with very strong semi sung lyrics.

Most of Ill Communication: Kick ass guitars fused with rap.

So, boooi. Get down wid da biaaayitchs and scratch some homie hardcore. Werd.

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Fidelis

When you say 'rap' music, what exactly do you classify as rap ? Because as Kali has pointed out, there's a big difference between hip hip/rap/gansta rap etc.

Pharcyde
De La Soul
Herbaliser
Musiq Soulchild
Run DMC
Beastie Boys
Spooks
Stetsasonic

Damn good groups

Also a great hip hop tune at the moment : Nate Dogg, Mos Def & Pharaohe Monch - Oh No ( Lyricist Lounge )

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Nil Desperandum

Greenbean

When the topic is so broad you've got to argue in broad terms, yep I know of beastie boys, Wycleff Jean and so on, but when someone says "I hate rap" I can be 95% certain they're talking about the popular gangsta rap which is the most prevailent during the nineties, and you can be fairly certain that they haven't looked into it too much to try find the better genres because of the distasteful and boring gangsta rap.

the fnj

I am not a Rap or R&B fan. The commerical sh*te they sell to kids is rubish. But I would not say I hate rap and mean it. I do tell my mates who listen to it its sh*te but I don't think it's fair to put down every rapper because of the crap that floats to the top. Making statments like that is never a good idea because you will end closing you mind of to a type of music that has been around for years and has it's own place in the music industry.

Fidelis

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paladin:
garage music and trance music</font>

I believe it's called 'noise'

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Clintons Cat

current Rap acts that should go sit with Pump Duddy in the Clinton Cat Class Of Shame...
Destinies Child
Nelly
That dreadful Limp Buiskit sub beastie boys effort

Current rap acts that can hold their own with the original b boys
Snoop
Dr Dre
Eminem
Spooks
Outkast
Ice Cube
As Frodo sez
Listen to the lyrics of Boogie Down Productions/Why Is That?,Public Enemy/Fear Of A Black Planet,Ice T/Home Invasion,Ice Cube/War And Peace vol1.
It will be a revelation to those who think of rap in terms of a one trick pony.
Ice Cubes Getto Vet is probally one of the most painfully real Gangster Rap songs i have ever heard,it puts all the guns and *****es of p diddy acts were they belong,the w@nc fantasies of 14 year old boys.

PiE

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paladin:
...trance music...</font>

Now now! You must like "Silence", everyone likes that song,even moi, and i'm an avid rock fan like yerself!

Oh and Craig David must die for the sake of humanity.

Paladin

I do hate underground rap. Especially rap with lyrics like
"we gonna fuk yo homies and yo bit<hes good we fuk em"

The only rap id listen to is done to really decent rock music. Cant think of any off hand tho. Some rap can be ok then but i dont like most of it. I like ROCK

Worse than rap tho, is garage music and trance music. I just dont understand how people like it. There is nothing i can listen to, or any argument that I can hear that will ever teach me this. I am simply baffled by its popularity.

Lenny

Rap is good to chill down to

Xithus

Unfortunetely I cant post anything here we havnt already talked about Star,
wha, wha, wha..

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harVee

Yeah, it's a bit like saying all country is sh!t. Yes vince gil is a crime against humanity, but Will Oldham, Vic Chesnutt and Calexico are three of the greatest americans producing music at the moment.
The same can be said of Blackalicious and the whole Quanum collective.
And without pioneers like Flash and Herc, we wouldn't have bands like RATM (a good thing imo), albums like Kid A (with beats straight outa compton), and pure geniuses such as Beck.
Remember in every genre there are turnips like Limp Bizcuit (sp?) and garthbrooks. but the Shellacs and Smogs of the world more than make up for them

harVee

oh and i challenge you to go on for 50 pages about how much you hate hip hop starscream. in fact first i challenge you to get an orininal name.

darthmise

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Frodo@work:
There is good hip hop out there,try
A Tribe Called Quest
DE la Soul
Dream Warriors
Public Enemy
NWA

any of the old stuff is usally good, it was poof daddy who came and recked it all.</font>

Don't give him that much credit please.

There are still alot of great acts out there still but it just doesn't intrest me anymore.

Long live the Dogfather.

Clintons Cat

anyone remember the Disposable Heros Of Hip-Hopcracy?

Television Drug Of The Nation.

Kastro

i love rap music..
im listining to some right now..
whats wrong with it???
give me a ligit reason why you all think its so bad.!

it aint that bad..
eminem is a bit of a ponce.
but he has his fans all around the world.
dre is an evil fe<k3d up lookin ****er.
snoop is a smokin the weed mother****er.
and then theres N.W.A
niggas with attuide. whats wrong with them?
i think the only reason you all h8 rap music is because is done by black ppl.
if so you are all raceist boll0><3s

darthmise

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kastro:
i think the only reason you all h8 rap music is because is done by black ppl.
if so you are all raceist boll0><3s</font>

Oh grow up ya muppett.

-Serpico-

Hey,

Though I love hiphop almost more than any other genre of music, I can relate to what the man is saying, because my absolute LEAST favorite type of music in the world is BAD hiphop!

Bad hip hop, the likes of DMX, Missy, Foxy Brown, RuffRyders, Nelly, Ludakris, or any of that other ****e is the most painful sound that could assail your ears! The reason why it's so painful to me is that I know that hip hop can be SO great! Just listen to People Under The Stairs, early MosDef, Company Flow, L-Fudge, Polyrythym Addicts, TribeCalledQuest, Swollen Members, or Jedi Mind Tricks, and you'll discover some of the most amazing music ever.

However, this is all just a matter of opinion. Some people just don't like hip hop, and it's not, haha, because they're racist! That's like saying the reason I don't like metal is because metalers are all smelly bástards! It's not that at all, it's because metal's shíte!

Serp

Kali

I'm interested to actually see though if any of the many excellent reccomendations have made an impact on the original opinion..

Starscream?

Fidelis

Isn't it Doggfather ?

Anyway, reiterating my point, big difference between gansta rap and hip-hop.

Serpico showed me Jedi Mind Tricks a while back, excellent stuff

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StarScream

yes i can honestly say iv never heard of these groups.....so i dint hate them though its a pain to download em cause napster is messed up now
but im always willing to try new things
oh and if StarScream is an unoriginal name how was i able to get it? the answer...CAUSE NOONE ELSE HAS IT
oh and only a really spite filled person would suggest im a racist cause i dont like rap music,answer this...if i dont like country western music does that mean i hate all the people in southern USA? maybe now ull realise how ridiculous that comment was

Clintons Cat

this site usually has a song or two to download.
http://www.publicenemy.com
http://www.publicenemy.com/mpe.php

After the Rodney King Riots a serious ammount of political pressure was put on the major record labels to get them to drop their more "contraversial" rap acts.
I recomend anyone intrested in the Bodycount/Copkiller contreversy reads "Ice Speaks" by Ice T.
Is it any coincidence that the Gucci Gangsters are still getting airplay whilst acts trying to keep it real are ignored by the majors?
Respect to Eminem,
Home Invasion 2 has commenced

Kali

respect to Eminem?
whatchyoutalkinboot Clintons Cat.

Vega

Limp Bizkits rap is the best!!!!!


Peace outty!

Vega

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Celt

I hate rap so bad it isnt funny.