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European PSP release date

  • 01-12-2004 7:30pm
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    March 25th 2005

    http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000547022221/
    Yep, that Spong gang is ever so crafty, peaking at an official Sony document. And while the release date really ain’t a shocker, it’s nice to know, you know? Oh yeah, about that date…


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,675 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I see sony are doing the PS2 tactic and not releasing enough units to satisfy demand. They can then sell there story to the papers about the PSP selling out on release. With the PS2 the christmas it was released here it sold out but the Dreamcast outsold it 5:1 during the same time period.


  • Registered Users Posts: 961 ✭✭✭AthAnRi


    Any words on a price yet? Apparently it ain't gonna be as steep as was first expected. The price for it in Japan worked out to be around 140 euro. If it's that price when It comes out here I'll definately be getting one. It's only a pity about the battery life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭kinkstr


    i cant see it being available for 140 yo yo's,your in ireland remember,the most expensive county in the universe.
    Its battery life is a major topic of discussion on the net,so i wont be rushing out and buying one until sony sort this out
    :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    kinkstr wrote:
    i cant see it being available for 140 yo yo's,your in ireland remember,the most expensive county in the universe.
    Its battery life is a major topic of discussion on the net,so i wont be rushing out and buying one until sony sort this out
    :D

    I agree, at least €200 and the battery ywould have to be decent. Even at that id have to see it in action with a few games.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭sound_wave


    even if it is €140 ill be waiting till they sort out the supposed battery problem until i buy one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    sound_wave wrote:
    even if it is €140 ill be waiting till they sort out the supposed battery problem until i buy one

    battery problem? it's a beast of a machine.. that's why it has a battery problem!
    so keep your gameboy advance if you want to play games that won't eat up your battery life.

    also, a spare battery pack can be bought for feck all these days.. and with the growing number of places available to charge batterys (cars, pc's etc) who cares if you only get 2hrs playing out of a quality game.. you can charge it up on the move or stick in your spare battery!

    this whole *battery problem* won't be causing any trouble for sony.
    well, it won't be stopping me from eventually getting mine anyway!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Hugh Hefner


    http://storeone.net/kcstore/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi

    PSP on preorder for £285.00! And that's without any games or built in software *coughpictochatcough*.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    jeez, might invest in their one of their nintendo ds's... 190GBP is all. i don't mind waiting until they get their next batch in of course.. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    [nicK] wrote:
    well, it won't be stopping me from eventually getting mine anyway!

    Do you have a GB/GBC/GBA/GameGear/N-gage/Java phone you play games with/etc/etc or have you played one? And if not, why do you want a handheld console now?

    Will you be buying a handheld because you want to play games away from your console/PC? OR Will you be buying a handheld as a fan of a brand?

    [I'm not trying to attack you here, all just out of interest]


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    [nicK] wrote:
    jeez, might invest in their one of their nintendo ds's... 190GBP is all. i don't mind waiting until they get their next batch in of course.. :rolleyes:

    My DS cost me €120/£80GBP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    Rew wrote:
    My DS cost me €120/£80GBP

    not bad..
    i think the psp's retail price comes in at around 165euro when converted over.. again, not bad, considering the hardware inside..
    Do you have a GB/GBC/GBA/GameGear/N-gage/Java phone you play games with/etc/etc or have you played one? And if not, why do you want a handheld console now?

    had a gameboy and gamegear.. a bit outdated now.. gba/ngage etc never appealed to me..
    Will you be buying a handheld because you want to play games away from your console/PC? OR Will you be buying a handheld as a fan of a brand?

    a fan of the brand? .. definately not.. although i hope to be!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    I think at this stage all the specualtion is done (and not doing us any good) and we only have about 9 days to wait to see the turth about the PSP. I have yet to see a thread about either the DS or the PSP that hasn't turned in to a one is better the the other then.

    To be fair the PSP has potential to be great and so does the DS alot of people are talking about having both. PSP will have PS2 gfx in a handheld device (as well as mp3 and video) and the DS can support decent FPS and proabably RTS games in a handheld. Alot of people think that you cannt compare them directly at all.

    Faceing facts Sony arn't going to knock Nintendo off the handheld king spot any time soon, they sold over 1.3 mil Nintendo handhelds oin just 1 week last week in the US. Thats over 4 times the amount of PSP's that Sony hope to sell in the next month.

    So maybe we can keep the theads to pure PSP or DS talk for a change. :D

    Anyone got the list of PSP launch games?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peteee


    Rew wrote:

    Faceing facts Sony arn't going to knock Nintendo off the handheld king spot any time soon,

    I seem to recall people saying that when the playstation came out!!

    Havnt a clue of the launch games tbh, but i will be picking one up for gran turismo, just think, we can all play GT portable while in the car!!

    That 285 yoyos for a psp pre order seems awfully steep

    I hope to be picking one up with a GB memory stick, trying to kill the gameboy/video player/mp3 player in one stone!


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Yuri


    Remember our good friend Hugh Hefner said the psp was £285 thats like 415 and thats a lot!! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭tck


    enjoy the 3.5/4 hours battery life :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭DrEvil


    check this out a, 'real' hands on with the PSP :)
    lot's of pics and a few videos of the psp

    http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-17-74-ox.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭yawnstretch


    I've played a DS as Im sure some of you have and quite frankly (as I realised when I first got pics of the original design over a year ago) its ugly and awkward and the graphics aint that great - sorry.

    I've an SP which I intend to keep because Nintendo do make fantastic games now and then, but trust me - when anyone sees a DS side by side with a PSP there will be zero doubt as to which one is tastier.

    Just download a few Ridge Racers videos for the PSP and then checkout the DS Ridge Racer screenshots. Why the hell would you need a stylus for a racing game, and why would you choose pre N64 graphics when you could have Ps2 graphics?

    My only concern regarding the PSP is that I'll probably get beaten to death by thieves 3 seconds after I've left the house.

    Wait until you've played both - a few seconds loading and a couple of hours in battery capacity is a tiny price to pay for such beauty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭tck


    Well the game gear was a good piece of kit, reasonably priced and some good games, it went thru 6 batteries in a few hours.. the gameboy (then monochrome) still kicked it's ass because of the games and battery life.

    The psp is a nice system, no ones denying the gfx, but i don't think the gfx are enough of a selling point, people will care about getting 10/12 hours from their DS and only 4 hrs (and maybe even less as time goes on) for a game or about 1.5-2 hrs for a movie from their psp.

    It's about portability, playing it on trains/cars/buses/holidays etc.. having to go re-charge it and that takes hours will piss most people off something awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,181 ✭✭✭✭Jim


    Alot of people say to me their buying a PSP because of the movie playing ability.
    Tbh I can't really see myself watching a movie on the bus. Even if I did the battery would run out before the end of it.
    I wouldn't use it as a MP3 player, too big, and I wouldn't want to fork out the prices of the memory sticks to store the music either.

    I'm in this for the games, so DS is my man. Full 3D view with the touch screen, nyom.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭yawnstretch


    F.Y.I. it is "continuous 4 to 5 hours for video viewing".
    http://psp.ign.com/articles/560/560950p1.html

    6 AAs for the Gamegear for an hour is no comparison to a lithium Ion rechargeable on the PSP which gives you between 4 and 6 hours of gaming.

    No one is getting "10/12 hours" out of a DS. Real battery life for the DS has been approximated closer to 8 hours - not that Id be on a DS that long without permanent damage to my hands - have you tried to play a game on one for more than 30 mins? Most DS owners I know say the only comfortable way to play it is crouched over with the thing on your knees! Portable my ass.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rew


    Gamespot have a hands on as well

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/12/05/news_6114458.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_topslot_click

    Cannt read any of em in work thanks to poxy websense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭tck


    F.Y.I. it is "continuous 4 to 5 hours for video viewing".
    http://psp.ign.com/articles/560/560950p1.html

    6 AAs for the Gamegear for an hour is no comparison to a lithium Ion rechargeable on the PSP which gives you between 4 and 6 hours of gaming.

    No one is getting "10/12 hours" out of a DS. Real battery life for the DS has been approximated closer to 8 hours - not that Id be on a DS that long without permanent damage to my hands - have you tried to play a game on one for more than 30 mins? Most DS owners I know say the only comfortable way to play it is crouched over with the thing on your knees! Portable my ass.


    "These numbers, according to SCE, were determined with the system's luminance set to maximum (180 cd/m2) and minimum (80 cd/m2), volume set to half the maximum level, headphones used instead of speakers and wireless LAN not in use (note that the maximum luminance value rises to 200 cd/m2 when playing through AC power)."

    first off, i aint going to trust what SCE says - they are going to say its higher than it really is, vol at half and using earpieces ? and no wifi in use?

    these aren't proper statistics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭yawnstretch


    There are hundreds of articles about PSP battery life because of the fact that it like an MD player has moveable parts and optical storage media.

    Obviously battery hours can vary depending on how something is used. My digital camera for example has 3 levels of brightness and I always have it on the lowest setting, I dont need to blind myself and I get extra hours from it - and whats wrong with using earphones? I don't see myself using external speakers on a bus/train/car/luas myself.

    Edit: Also, if you read it again I think they are saying it's external speakers at half volume, or else using headphones - which makes more sense.

    Not proper statistics? Show me a better source of information than the company that makes the product.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,675 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Show me a better source of information than the company that makes the product.

    This is the company that created the bull**** emotion engine hype and gives theoretical performance values for all its products. However pratically ever electronics manufacturer does the same. The best information is from hands on previews and reviews from respectable magazines and websites i.e. not bribe monkeys like IGN or 'official' websites and magazines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭tck


    There are hundreds of articles about PSP battery life because of the fact that it like an MD player has moveable parts and optical storage media.

    Obviously battery hours can vary depending on how something is used. My digital camera for example has 3 levels of brightness and I always have it on the lowest setting, I dont need to blind myself and I get extra hours from it - and whats wrong with using earphones? I don't see myself using external speakers on a bus/train/car/luas myself.

    Edit: Also, if you read it again I think they are saying it's external speakers at half volume, or else using headphones - which makes more sense.

    Not proper statistics? Show me a better source of information than the company that makes the product.


    well john pickford says its between 90-120 mins at the moment

    so i'll trust him over power saving stats from SCE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭yawnstretch


    You might want to give us a bit more than that please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    [nicK] wrote:
    not bad..
    i think the psp's retail price comes in at around 165euro when converted over.. again, not bad, considering the hardware inside..


    well lets see. the ds which when you do the exchange from dollars works out at about 115 euros but when it's released here it will cost about 160. if the psp converts to about 160 then it will be around 200 when released on these shores.


    and dont say youre not a fan of the brand you were the lad suckin sony off in another thread about whoch console is best when clearly you hadnt even played the others properly.!


    the psp has absolute pants games so far on the line up except the final fantasy VII game but you wont be able to enjoy it cause FF is a series where you play for a few hours at atime and the psp wont be able to handle it. metal gear wil probably be full of fmvs which means the battery wil be gone before the first cut scene is done! ;)

    tbh both conosles have pretty rubbish games at launch but at least the ds has a better selection. and sony are muppets. they are gonna purposely not make enough so everyone will hear it sells out and theyll think it must be amazing like the amazing ps2. it's ridiclous. and you complain about "the next batch of ds" whenever it arrives. it sold out because it was a cool machine not cause Nintendo decided to not make enough.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    "This apparent response to concerns over the battery life of the system - which is quoted as around 10 hours for music and two hours for movie playback - places the problem firmly in the developers' court."

    http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=4667

    "two hours for movie playback" if it can even work that long how many films are longer? And Sony's power restrictions on games (link above) doesn’t sound too hopeful.

    I’ll be sticking to my MP3 player for music, buying a DS for games, and when on a bus/train/aeroplane I’ll be trying to do some of this crazy reading stuff.

    But when Sony (or anyone) does get around to making a decent music/games/film(/phone/tooth brush/knife/microwave oven) player, (with a decent battery life, and a decent built-in storage for MP3s at the very least) I’ll be getting it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    we've all seen how ipods are. they start off with about 8-12 hours battery life but that gradually gets smaller and smaller the more use it gets. it will be the same for psp. i know there is replacement batteries for sale but i dont wanna buy something and then have to replace the battery to get slightly better but still **** battery life.


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