How do you pronounce R?

Idbatterim

OR! All the way

Giblet

What kind of person uses "are" I can't say I've heard someone say it like that.

OR.

Hugh Hefner

It's definately should be pronounced "or". I'd definately correct a friend if he/she pronounced it "are" (in a non-slagatory to culites way).

And "a" should be pronounced "ay" not "ahh" although I think in Irish it's meant to be pronounced "ahh". I always hear my Irish teacher pronouncing it "ahh".

"H" is "haytch", or else.

NotMe

Hugh Hefner wrote:

It's definately should be pronounced "or". I'd definately correct a friend if he/she pronounced it "are" (in a non-slagatory to culites way).

And "a" should be pronounced "ay" not "ahh" although I think in Irish it's meant to be pronounced "ahh". I always hear my Irish teacher pronouncing it "ahh".

"H" is "haytch", or else.

That's it exactly.

Tiriel

simu wrote:

I say "or" (grew up in Cork), never heard anyone say "are".

Must be a lot of people where you live who think they're pirates.

lol I say "or" too.. "are " sounds bit weak!!! A good strong "OR"

meepmeep

Giblet wrote:

What kind of person uses "are" I can't say I've heard someone say it like that.

OR.

Me! I've only ever heard people announce it as "or" here. We say "are" in Scotland - doesn't mean you're right and we're wrong or vice versa....!

And Hugh Hefner, why would you correct someone because they pronounce something differently from you?

Anyhoo - doesn't really matter does it?

Boro

'ar' for me - a softened version of 'are' and far from 'arrrrrrrrrrrrr' though not as soft as 'or'

Blisterman

I think most people in Ireland prononce it or.

Capt'n Midnight

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/rhotic
the great R schism in English speakers - rhotic and the non-rhotic


http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Hiberno-English - found this as well - worth reading aloud..

simu

So, Irish people are er... rhotic - who would have thought?

Blisterman

That Hiberno english thing seems a bit old fashioned and out of date. I don't know anyone who says am'nt for am not.

Hugh Hefner

meepmeep wrote:

And Hugh Hefner, why would you correct someone because they pronounce something differently from you?

Because I'm sure my way is the phonetically correct way and I believe good spelling/grammar/pronounciation/punctuation/etc. are important, especially in a world where txt messaging is very popular and the Australian Question Inflexion are spreading far from Australia (damn you Home And Away, damn yooooooouuu!).

For people with upper class English accents I think they shoud pronounce it "ar" (not "are") just like Boro said.

Blisterman

Whats the Australian Question Inflexion?

NotMe

Blisterman wrote:

That Hiberno english thing seems a bit old fashioned and out of date. I don't know anyone who says am'nt for am not.

I'm one of those people. Amn't I?

Capt'n Midnight

Blisterman wrote:

Whats the Australian Question Inflexion?

Its younger aussies (esp female) where they say "Oh yeeah" and rise the tone at the end of the sentence making it sound like a question...

simu wrote:

So, Irish people are er... rhotic - who would have thought?

I seen it on the internet, it must be true !

TCamen

I don't know anyone who says am'nt for am not.

I know lots of people who use that abbreviation, it's still popular

For people with upper classs English accents I think they shoud pronounce it "ar" (not "are") just like Boro said.

I don't have an upper class English accent, but that's how I pronounce it *shrug* I guess I just am'nt normal

luckat

I say amn't, pronounce "r" as "are", and say FANatic, and I call "h" "aitch". Hate me for it if you like. That'll make me sad, but I amn't too worried about it.

TCamen

I say amn't, pronounce "r" as "are", and say FANatic, and I call "h" "aitch". Hate me for it if you like. That'll make me sad, but I amn't too worried about it.

_blank_

I say "amn't" but I hate it. I always pull myself up on it.

I say "OR"

I say "HAYTCH"

And I hate "ahh". Always say [fonzie]"AYYYYY"[/fonzie]

luckat

I also find myself moving my pronunciation around. If I'm with tewwibly uppew clawss teeps my accent goes gratingly Ronnie Dhrew for a while, and theirs goes paralytically whooffy. If we get to like each other our accents slide together and meet in the middle somewhere. Likewise if I'm with real Doobs.

On the other hand, if I'm with ah-sayers, I'll usually say "ah" for "A", if I'm with elderly country people I'll say bassic for basic and primmer for primer; with most Dubs I'll say haitch for H and ezoo for Zoo; if I'm with Merkins I'll say Urbs for herbs; if I'm with the young I'll sometimes even say fanATTic instead of FANatic. But I'll always say "I amn't".

Blisterman

Ezoo?

is_that_so

Blisterman wrote:

That Hiberno english thing seems a bit old fashioned and out of date. I don't know anyone who says am'nt for am not.

Oops - as do a half a dozen kids I know. "Old fashioned amn't I ?"

As far as the "r" goes, according to English RP (most of which we use), the sound is ahh ( Like when doctor says "Now say 'aw'"). Our tendency to say "are/or" is influenced suprisingly by the Gaeilge, as is our use of "amn't" , "just after doing that" etc.
For me "or" means you are from Cork or you live on the Dort.